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Volume 15 Issue 4: May 23, 2013
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Dirt Road Rollerskiing!

 

 It appears that the dirt roads of Vermont are filled with dirt road rollerskiers. Last week a reader asked for insights on dirt road rollerskiing. As you will see below we had plenty of responses.

 

While dirt road rollerskiing is without a doubt a great workout, it is another question if it is great for actual nordic racing specific training. We will leave that to a later discussion. 

 

Below is some of the feedback on dirt road roller skiing we received.

  

Yes I trained skating on forest roads in UK with Elpex 'Off Road' skis. This was ok. Of course one has to manage the bumpiness which was ok and no traffic. When the autumn came leaves jammed the wheels and so was forced to take to the trafficked Tarmac road. Colin (Herefordshire) 

 

I have used my V2 150mm roller skis on dirt roads and trails several times without problem.   Of course I put slime sealant in the tubes to help with potential flats.   I don't change tire pressure and they seem to roll just fine.   Roots and big rock are obstacles  that require avoidance either by jumping over them or swerving out of their way.  It is rather surprising how well the V2 150s work off road!   I recommend giving it a try.  As always wear a helmet, and maybe knee and elbow guards if you feel less confident.  

Enjoy, Brian 

 

I like these skis because of their versatility. I can easily switch from skating to classic because they roll freely for skating but the front wheel allows one to kick. They work well on smooth well compacted dirt roads and trails. If you can ride a high pressure narrow road bike easily on the surface, the skis will be fine. On roads with rough surfaces or with lots of loose gravel or unpacked sand, they are not worth using.  A favorite route consists of a running trail followed by pavement, and the skis work well for both. I also love the variable resistance lever, which serves as a brake as well as adding resistance if desired.

Cliff 

 

V2 with big wheels - double pole and always go slow.  (great pole plants though!)

-Bob 

 

Hi there, I have a pair of V2 Aeros made for dirt roads.   I found that the dirt roads had to be hard and very smooth for them to work well.    I find that the Aeros thrive best on pavement that is not the best like if there are a lot of cracks.

Regards, Josh

  

Elpex off road roller skis work well on crushed limestone and hard packed dirt surfaces.

 

I love the V2 Aeros on dirt roads, either to help connect tar roads or, if the dirt is smooth enough, for the entire workout. Much less traffic, much more scenic value, much more like the feel of snow.

 

The pneumatic tires are of course a big part of it, but so also is the wheel size and the added clearance between the tire and the axle -- I have only had a rock catch in between once in over ten years of using them. (Hence guaranteeing that it will happen the next time out after I write this.)  They will not work well if the road has been recently graded, or if it is early enough in mud season that the dirt is too soft. But don't go near anything that looks like skis that soon after the winter anyways...

JD Lyme, NH

   

The worst fall I've sustained on V2s was on a dirt road. A small stone got jammed between the wheel and the frame while I was double poling and I went down very hard. V2's are excellent on rough pavement but I avoid gravel of any sort.. CJ Stillwater, MN

 

I took my V2 aero 150's on a dirt road for a few hundred yards. It was horrible. They certainly provide a smooth ride on rough paved roads and roll right over cracks and stones that would cause many other skis to launch you into the air. But they do not perform well on dirt roads. 

 

I use CAT Skis (classical only) and love them on the back dirt and gravel roads around Wausau, WI. I gave up regular roller skis for these - much less chance of injury and can get the same work out in half the time!  GK

 

I used off road roller skis for about 6 years on the C&O canal towpath in MD.  The surface is hard packed dirt and fines (gravel 1/4 " and smaller) packed by over 100 years of use.  They work well on that surface.  With large diameter wheels, they will run over sticks up to about garden hose size.  Forget about any surface that has loose gravel, they will function with occasional loose stone but not in any quantity.  Falling is softer than hitting pavement,  not by much but you don't get a major case of road rash.  Biggest scare is getting a huge spider plastered on your chest when roller skiing first thing in the AM before others have gone through  Spiders aren't an issue on roads.  They're too wide to spin web across.  Bike paths and trails are an entirely different story.  I learned to wait in the AM until a biker had gone through otherwise I'm eating cobwebs all morning. JW

 

Dirt roller skiing opens up a lot more terrain, and generally very low traffic terrain! Tip: Look for very firm dirt roads with minimal loose gravel/rocks. Elpex Evolution X/evolution V was recently voted best rolller ski for 2013 in a Swedish test and runs very well on firm roads. Elpex also has an off-road specific model: Elpex Offroad, which i believe was launched in 2012. Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z3rlXVnQgs Cheers, inge :-) ski fast. live slow. glide on.

  

Yes I have V2 roller skis and found roller skiing on dirt is difficult do to the inconsistency of the road or trail surface.  

Dale

 
I've been skiing the backroads of VT for several years on a pair of V2 150s. Here's my take.

 

Positive attributes:

1) V2 150s, in my experience, work better on dirt than asphalt and keep you from risking your life on VTs narrow roads.

2) the backroads mimic the visceral ski-trail experience better than roads. Great scenery and views.

3) V2 150 roll over nearly anything, which is great, but there are limits, such as washboards on downhill corners and gravel.

4) you can do some monster climbs and survive the downhills using the speed reducers

 

Negatives:

1) They are clunky and it is difficult to do any uptempo/technique work on them and downhilling at speed is sketchy, but doublepoling is great especially when conditions are iffy for normal skis.

2) They are relatively high maintenance, which is annoying and expensive. I've replaced countless tubes and a few tires (try roller skiing on one ski some time) and the speed reducers are now worn out/broken. I get sick of having to pump up tires before going out each time, and the valve stems end up leaking and are not a great design. They have ended up being the biggest headache for me.

3) No fenders and dirt water down the boots is not a great experience

4) My biggest complaint, while they can be enjoyable on dirt, they just are not that much fun to ski on overall.

My overall take. The V2 150s have a place and I am glad I own them, but with the lack of fun factor and maintenance headaches, I recently bought traditional thin wheeled roller skis and expect to use them 90% of the time.

B.E.

 

Yup RV, I've given off-road rollering a try.  Know others who do it regularly.  Also have done some off-road tandem biking in your area.  Here in the Pacific NW, our unpaved roads are usually 3/4" crushed rock or larger & can not be rollered. Other locations I've been to are much better.  Late summer dry grass fields or some desert roads here are doable.  The dirt roads I was on in Northern New England seem ideally suited to off-road roller skiing -fine crushed & well compacted granite as I recall.  

 

I use the V2 150s, keep the tires inflated to 85+, only weight 160lbs & carry a complete spare wheel/tire w/ wrenches. Every off road roller workout I've done has been in the upper HR zones because its so much slower.  I suspect pinch flats could be a problem for bigger skiers but not me.  Classic nearly always works better than skate because the roller will break loose half way through your skate stride.  The exception may be the carriage roads in Acadia National Park. Saw someone there having a blast skating on 150s.  The additional dirt wears everything out faster. TS

 

Why not just mountain bike, run on trails and put all the ski stuff away? I feel we need to get away from a sport for up to 5 to 6 months and do other sports to stay in shape, and then when its time to start skiing your all pumped up thats what my friends and i do.

 
Thanks so much Andrew;

 

I actually went ahead and bought the V2 Aero's (out of severe skiing withdrawl!)  and they work just as your readers say.  On good packed dirt roads they are excellent.  Great way to train.  Here is a 3 minute video we made about skiing around here in Vermont last winter  - enjoy! https://vimeo.com/63681924
Thanks again, RVV

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In this edition of Talkin' with the Gravy Train, famous sports commentator and journalist Peter Graves chats with Dave Knoop, the Director of the National Nordic Foundation (NNF), for an inside look at the history of the organization and how it is able to provide over $150,000 to support Nordic skiing. Knoop speaks about the mission of the NNF, the all-important pillar projects, the Nordic community and the future in general - check out the interview at SkiTrax's 

 

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Spenst Training by Justin Freeman

 

Reprint from years past.

 

Skiing is generally regarded as an aerobic sport, and rightly so. But it is also an explosive power sport. Unlike running, cycling, or swimming, where power is applied nearly continuously, each individual stride in a cross country ski race is an explosive event-certainly more explosive than in any other endurance sport. It is in order to train this explosive power that we do spenst workouts. This article gives an overview of spenst training theory and practice.

 

Spenst comes from a Norwegian word meaning vertical jump. A spenst workout is one with the goal of increasing the height of your vertical jump. In America the word has taken on a slightly different meaning; a spenst workout is one where you work on your ski-specific explosive power.

 

There are two equally important components to training ski-specific explosive power. The more obvious component is simply the muscle power. But it is just as important to train the body position and technique that allow you to apply this power effectively.

 

One of the best ways to incorporate body position training into your spenst routine is to extend your warm-up. Even if this means a shorter time spent doing jumps and such it is well worth it. To get anything out of your spenst routine you must be thoroughly warm, and you also must see and feel the connection between ski racing and the exercises you are doing.

 

(Note: the workout I am about to describe contains more exercises than you should do in a single session. You might want to do a session with just the classic exercises, or just the skate, or your favorite combination. But don't do all the of these.)

 

Your initial warm-up should be 20-30 minutes, ending at the base of a hill with good footing and a moderate and consistent grade. Stop here and stretch for a while. Next, do the following classic technique drills:

 

Classic arm swing: Stand with your feet shoulder width apart, flex at the ankles and knees to bring your hips forward, and then roll your shoulders forward so that your spine has a good C-curve to it. Now, swing your arms as if you were classic skiing. Your arms should move loosely at the shoulders, but avoid hyperextention of the shoulders or rotation of the upper spine. You should drive your arms forward with sufficient force that your knees bend forward with each arm swing.

 

Next, add one leg to the exercise. While balancing on your left leg, swing your right leg forward in sync with your left arm. Focus on driving both your arms and your leg forward. Make sure that your back stays rounded. If you do this right, you will almost have to hop forward each time your leg swings forward.

 

Finally, do some easy ski walking. You can do this with or without poles (if you use poles they should be about 10 cm shorter than your classic poles). The idea right now is to stay well inside level one, and to really feel like you are on snow. Keep in mind the same things as in the last two drills: keep your back rounded, your hips forward, and drive your arms and legs forward with a crisp, sharp motion. Remember, this is still a technique exercise, so don't try to race, try to feel like you are skiing in level one.

 

Your first spenst exercise is single leg classic technique hops. This exercise is very similar to the arm and leg swing exercise from the warm-up. Balance on your left leg. Put your right arm forward, and your left arm and right leg behind, as if you were gliding on your left ski. Now, drive your right leg and left arm forward and jump forward off your left leg. The jump should feel like the kick in classic technique--sharp and powerful, rather than long and drawn out. Land on your left leg, and repeat six to ten times. Do two to three sets on each leg.

 

The next exercise is a variant of ski walking. It can be done without poles, but with poles is preferable. The idea is to ski walk with the fastest possible turnover, almost shuffling up the hill. But don't start racewalking. Keep your hips forward and basically square to the direction of travel. Keep your legs and arms driving straight forward. Focus on feeling as if you were skiing with huge tempo. Keep these and all spenst workout sprints to under ten seconds. Do three to eight of these sprints.

 

The finally classic exercise is bounding. Again, it works without poles but it is better to bring poles. Bounding is in some ways the opposite of the last exercise--here you are trying to minimize your tempo by maximizing your stride length. As always, focus on keeping good body position, forward hips, C-curve in the spine. Also focus on minimizing the time your foot spends on the ground. As soon as you land you should be pushing off, starting the next stride. (This may mean a little less distance with each jump, but it also trains you to set you wax more effectively). Do three to eight total bounds, 6 to 10 seconds each.

 

To train good skating position we start with a static drill. Turn your left leg out at the hip. Place your weight on this foot, which should point about 40 degrees away from where you are facing and bend deeply at the ankle and knee to bring the hips forward. Roll your shoulders forward to properly align your spine. Gently bounce up and down an inch or two, and get used to the feeling of balancing like this on one ski. Do this for about 30 seconds on each side, and repeat at least once on each side.

 

Next, start from this position on your left leg and then step to the same position on your right. Try to feel the weight transfer as if you were on snow.

 

Once you are comfortable with this, we can move the the explosive version: Set up in good skate position, hips and shoulders forward, hip turned out, ankles bent. Then jump explosively off of this leg and land in good skate position on the other. You may want to swing your arms in a V-2 skate motion. You may want to take a small hop between jumps to help you set up. Whatever helps you focus on an explosive lateral jump, and allows you to start and finish in a good, technically sound position. Do three sets of a total of about 20 jumps (ten from each leg).

 

For the other skate exercise, line up so that the hill rises to your left. Then, keeping your hips forward, bring your right foot across and plant it in front of and above your left foot. Jump explosively off your right foot so that you land left (up the hill) from where you started. You should swing your arms as if poling as you jump. Land on your left foot, take a second to stabilize, then cross your right foot over and jump again. Do three sets of 10 jumps on each leg.

 

As long as you keep the total number of jumps and sprints low, you can add some less specific exercises. Two-legged jumps, running sprints, backwards running sprints, high-knees sprints, etc. I usually add one of these to my spenst routine. But only one. The aim is for quality and for specificity.

 

Hopefully these exercises will help your spenst routine. Remember, for these to be truly effective you need to be warmed up but fresh, and you need to feel the connection to skiing with each and every jump or sprint. If the connection is unclear, go back to the warm-up technique drills. If you start feeling too tired to execute the workout properly, cool down and go home.

 

Justin Freeman 

 

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 Bogus Basin Nordic Team

Coach opening  

 

The Bogus Basin Nordic Team (BBNT) in Boise, ID is the club program serving youth skiers age 6-19 in Idaho's Treasure Valley.  Currently, the team consists of around 10 high-school, 20 middle-school and up to 30 elementary aged skiers divided into 4 training groups.  Boise has several times been selected as a Top Ten city in which to live, work and play.  Boise has a nationally recognized outdoors community with a focus on whitewater and cycling but also a large Nordic and alpine skiing contingent with Bogus Basin ski area just 16 miles from downtown.  There is an active and young population in town with several colleges and universities as well as a vibrant downtown.  To learn more about BBNT please check out www.bogusbasinnordicteam.com

 

 

BBNT is seeking to hire a Part-time Head Coach for the middle school Comp-Devo Team/Assistant Coach for the high school Comp Team.   Position requires availability for practice 4-6 days week and assistance with other aspects of running the team which can be flexibly scheduled around other commitments.   Additionally there are 5-6 overnight trips scheduled each year in whichthe assistant coach would be expected to take part.    Please contact Head Coach/Program Director Nick Crawford at ncrawfo2@gmail.com with any questions or to submit a resume. 

Nordic Skiing Association of Anchorage  

 

Nordic Skiing Association of Anchorage is looking for a new Executive Director. This is a full-time, year-round position directing a dynamic Alaskan non-profit with a budget of $1.3 million. More information here: anchoragenordicski.com/jobs.html Send cover letter and resume to nsaa.job.opening@gmail.com

 

 Wax Tech Wanted

Sochi Olympics

 

Looking for an experienced wax tech (international experience preferred) for the Dominica National XC Ski Team (2 athletes). The team will be based in Bend, OR in May, in New Zealand Jul-Sep, and in Canmore Oct-Dec before heading to Europe/Sochi in mid Jan for the Olympics. The time/travel commitment is flexible  (particularly from May-Oct), and can be mutually agreed upon with further discussion. There is the option to continue with the team for the balance of 2014 and into 2015. Additional experience on the coaching side would be valuable. Gary di Silvestri gdisilvestri@dsam.com

 

XC/Nordic coach at Clarkson University 

(Div. III/USCSA)

 

The position offers free tuition, healthcare and stipend.  Perfect for someone looking to work on a graduate degree.  The NCAA link is below.http://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobs/5335767/assistant-coach

Questions? Email head coach Jim Allott at Jallott@clarkson.edu ,

Many thanks,

Jim Allott Head Coach

 

Coaches looking for U.S. positions

 

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