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3rd May 2016

This newsletter was delayed from yesterday due to the Labour Day holidays in Queensland and Northern Territory - apologies to anybody that is inconvenienced by this delay.
This week's survey 
(These survey questions are sent in by our readers. Please spend a minute to give your answer to this week's survey as one or possibly more of your industry peers thinks this question is important and wishes to see your point of view as well as others in the industry.)  

Last week's survey results...

Regarding apprenticeship schemes, do you think we do enough to sell our industry to youngsters? What ideas can you offer that would improve the number of apprentices entering our industry?
  • "THE INDUSTRY" (bunch of old thinkers with a brush) Have for a long time tried to contain training to "Traditional" signcraft. I put an apprentice through the system, he was trained solely in old systems, with no acknowledgement that the industry may be moving through new technologies such as cut vinyl, digital printing, even drafting a layout on computer was not something that could possibly assist the trade. So the apprenticeship system has lost its appeal to both those entering the industry and those who need trained staff. so the end result is that PARTIALLY trained staff feel that they know enough to go and start their show. The skills of costing, job safety are not being learned under any formal framework. So now we have a system where totally untrained people are coming in with no understanding of the costs. Then '"THE INDUSTRY" complains bitterly about the demise of "THE INDUSTRY. I came to this industry as a trained fitter and machinist, I had no brush training, the equipment that was being used for vinyl signage and routing was direct from my industry (CAD Drafting for vinyl and CNC machining for routers). Yet the keepers of the industry shunned me rather than embrace the knowledge that I bought to the industry. This question should have been asked 20 years ago and changes made to keep training up with the times and technology that was actually being used, rather than attempt to preserve that little patch of art. I attended Sign Association committee meetings for some time and tried in vein to change attitudes to change, I am saddened by some of what has happened to this industry but much of it we have bought on ourselves. 
  • New sign apprenticeship slogan: GET PAID A TRUCK LOAD OF CASH to climb buildings and paint letters. Many of the graffiti kids have real talent - just need to learn how to do it where people want it. Sadly computers and safety legals have taken the fun away from the job - kids love risk (just look at where the graffiti is). Sign writing is now a desk job with a 'really big photocopier' - that's boring if I'm sitting at a computer I'd rather be on Facebook/Google looking for great graffiti ideas. :-) 
  • Unfortunately it is a difficult sell... The "signwriting" industry was once an elite trade dominated by skilled artisans. It was also one of the most lucrative of all trades for those willing to use those skills and work hard.
    Technology entered the trade in the 80's courtesy of companies like Gerber under the guise of "efficiency".
    Now the "trade" has deteriorated almost to the stage of being a poor cousin to industrial painting.
    Traditional design and production skills are no longer taught and clients now present us with designs "created" by "their" graphic designers who in many cases have questionable qualifications.
    Our industry has been hijacked by "charlatans" and "wanabes" with some spare cash from previous redundancies that they use to buy printers then tell the world that they are "signwriters".
    What possible advantage is a signwriting apprenticeship to a young lad or lass when in most cases there is not even a TRADESMAN present to teach them.
    This may all sound somewhat negative, and I may well look like a dinasaur, but since I entered the signwriting trade in 1963 I have seen many changes. Initially most for the better but in latter times few enhancing the reputation of "signwriters".
    After fifty three years I am looking forward to retirement and regretfully I predict signwriters in the future will be absorbed into a graphics arts industry that will in turn be dominated by Asian interests and Asian wage rates.
  • The industry associations and TAFE's need to equip sign shops to go into schools and present their trade. These organisations are under resourced with staff so they need to empower the sign shops to do the ground work in their area. (Matt, Motosigns). 

(As a publishing practice to protect ourselves from any potential liability, company and individual names that are referred to negatively in any of these comments are removed.
In addition we reserve the right to remove comments that are blatant advertising for one product or company)

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(NSW, Gosford) Gerber Edge2
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(WA, Perth) Electric Cold Laminator
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(WA, Busselton) Roland XC540 print and cut wide format printer,
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(WA, Port Kennedy) Agfa Annapurna M Hybrid Printer for Sale.
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(NZ, Rangiora) Our HP Latex L25500 60 inch large format full colour signage printer CMYKLcLm.
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