Victoria Real Estate Investors Club Newsletter
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Breakfast Meeting
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Sat, May 18
9:30am, RSVP req'd
Princess Mary Restaurant
On West Bay in the inner harbour, at 453 Head St in Esquimalt
reserved under Real Estate Club
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Cheri Crause
Royal LePage Coast Capital Realty 1933 Oak Bay, Victoria 250-592-4422
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Andy Vickers
Mortgage Broker
Harbour View Mortgages
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Spring has sprung and the grass has riz and there's no telling where we is. Denise and I are still in Victoria but we could start driving to Phoenix any minute!
Have you ever wondered if investing your money in real estate is the best way to make it grow? I certainly have! My criteria for choosing an investing method goes something like this: 1) Safety 2) Control 3) Liquidity 4) Suites my personality 5) FUN.
Over time the above priorities have changed for me - especially because of actual experiences I've had! Safety has moved up and FUN has moved down. I tried Stock investing because it looked like fun and soon realized my personality didn't mesh well with the work required. I've owned Mutual Fund units which magically lost value for reasons unknown to me. Control became an issue after that. I'm sure you have lots of similar stories.
Still, there is a case to be made for investing in different markets. Done properly, most common styles of investing yield sufficient rates of returns. In an effort to give some perspective to that subject, at this month's meeting we will listen to local investors quickly explain how and why they use their particular method. The four methods are Stocks, REITs, RE Holds and RE Flips.
Since we have limited time at our meeting, the topics will not be discussed in depth. My intention is to get us all thinking about why we invest the way we do. Also I want us to start a conversation amongst ourselves where we can become better informed and make more thoughtful decisions as we invest.
The drop in price for the monthly evening meeting will be going up starting May 28, 2013. You guessed it - $20.
I've included an article below from Ozzie Jurock's in-house newsletter about guaranteeing or a co-signing a mortgage. READ IT! It's important information.
News from Ontario in RE NEWS section to the left. You know those disclosure forms we fill out when selling property? There has been hundreds of court cases there resulting from disputes between buyers and sellers arising from info on those forms. The article is worth reading, then go talk to your RE lawyer about the level of risk you are incurring when you sell.
Cornell has a couple of opportunities below. IMO they have potential for investors who want to get into a property for low money down and no qualifying.
See you Tuesday! Gord Knox
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Meeting Tuesday April 30
|  Speakers: Panel Topics: 4 Ways to Invest This will be a lively meeting! Four knowledgeable panel members will reveal the pros and cons of their style of investing.
Stocks, REITs, RE Holds, RE Flips.
There will be lots of time for the audience to get their questions and opinions heard. There isn't time to go into detail about each style of making your money grow so this will be an overview only.
Victoria Ramada Hotel 123 Gorge Road East 7pm - 9pm $15 at the door (annual members no charge) After-Meeting Meeting at Heckler's Bar and Grill in the Hotel
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DEFINITIONS - Stock, REIT, RE Buy & Hold, RE Flip
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Investopedia explains 'Stock': A holder of stock (a shareholder) has a claim to a part of the corporation's assets and earnings. In other words, a shareholder is an owner of a company. Ownership is determined by the number of shares a person owns relative to the number of outstanding shares. For example, if a company has 1,000 shares of stock outstanding and one person owns 100 shares, that person would own and have claim to 10% of the company's assets.Investopedia explains 'Real Estate Investment Trust - REIT': Individuals can invest in REITs either by purchasing their shares directly on an open exchange or by investing in a mutual fund that specializes in public real estate. An additional benefit to investing in REITs is the fact that many are accompanied by dividend reinvestment plans (DRIPs). Among other things, REITs invest in shopping malls, office buildings, apartments, warehouses and hotels. Some REITs will invest specifically in one area of real estate - shopping malls, for example - or in one specific region, state or country. Investing in REITs is a liquid, dividend-paying means of participating in the real estate market. From the website houseflippingschool.com: Buy and hold real estate investment (oftentimes termed "land lording") on the other hand, means buying a house or property, holding it for a period of time thereby creating cash flow through rental income. The buy and hold real estate investor may at some point in time sell that property at a profit - or he may keep it forever. The real estate investor might also buy the property, renovate it and rent it with the purpose of re-selling it at some time...but usually not in a short (two to three month) period of time. Many buy and hold real estate investors purchase a property, become landlords and then decide they don't like land lording and then sell the house, hopefully at a profit. From the website houseflippingschool.com: House flipping is the process of buying a house and then selling it at a profit within the shortest time manageable. An investor is aiming to make a good sum of profit within a very short period of time, thus the word flipping. Many house flippers learn how to flip houses with no money and do extremely well turning a profit in a short time with very little of their own cash out of pocket. The typical house flipper does not hold onto the property for the purposes of income. In fact, the shorter period of time the house flipper holds the property, the better their profits usually are.
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Guaranteeing Or Co-signing A Mortgage? Better To Be A Co-signer Than A Guarantor!
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From Jurocks Facts By Email (well worth subscribing to, jurock.com)
We published a version of this topic in 1999, 2004 and 2010. This week, we ran across exactly this situation again. A horror story of a guarantor being stuck without being able to (initially at least) get out from under.
Metro Vancouver's strong housing market and high prices means that many parents and other relatives (even friends) are being asked to back the mortgages of first-time buyers, either as a guarantor or a co-signer. They may not have the employment history or credit scores to qualify for a mortgage. The can also be asked to "help out" in the purchase of investment property.
But NOTE: There is a big difference between being a guarantor and a co-signer. A co-signer is basically a co-owner - he is registered on the title and is equally accountable for payments (although it's often a given that he will not make the payments). A guarantor, on the other hand, personally guarantees payments will be made if the original applicant defaults, but he has no claim to the property because he is not on title. NEVER just guarantee, always get maximum security!
Lenders require co-signers and guarantors for different reasons. A co-signer is used when you the buyers need income support. If the original applicant's qualifying ratio doesn't meet the lender's standards, a co-signer is required to bridge the income gap. A co-signer, because his name is also on the title, must sign all of the mortgage documents and can expect to remain on title until the applicant qualifies for the mortgage on his own. Or, in the case of two spouses, the co-signer might remain on title indefinitely. Keep in mind that removing someone from the title involves legal fees.
If you support a buyer by becoming a guarantor, consider your exit strategy. Once the buyer is in place - or if you have any doubts - it is wise to have the buyer refinance the mortgage, even if at a higher rate, through a mortgage broker who is more comfortable with debt-to-income ratios or a less than stellar credit history.
Major Point: You may also consider - when CO-SIGNING for children, to keep a property in a family trust for them for a few years until the 'age of sanity' - particularly when you put up all or most of the money! This is particularly true with daughters in this mad age where the divorce rate is ridiculous. You will keep control and if things derail, well, you still own the property.
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OPPORTUNITIES
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Disclaimer: As you know, Cornell likes to use phrases like "easily be rented" and "needs some fix-ups" plus he occasionally uses an exclamation mark. If the opportunities below are too much for you to resist and you end up with empty suites and all your cash flowing to RONA because fix-up means re-build the whole house while Cornell lays on the beach in Ecuador, don't blame me. Check these deals out thoroughly and if you go for it make sure you know where Cornell is at all times! :-) All kidding aside, please use due diligence before entering into ANY real estate investment.
From Cornell:
4-BR, 3-Bath Executive Home Near VIU: 388 Camosun Drive, Nanaimo!
I just received notice yesterday that my tenant is vacating my nicest Nanaimo house this month and I have just put it back on the market for Rent-To-Own. (388 Camosun Drive, in College Heights, Nanaimo, & overlooking the University!).
This one is only 3 minutes from VIU! The rooms could easily be rented to students to make it cash flow!!
***The important thing is that you can lock it in now for only $20K down and no need to get a mortgage for 3 years!
Do you want a cheaper house? 358 Seventh Street, Nanaimo!
It's also close to VIU (about 7 blocks) and is cheaper than the house at 388 Camosun!
It is not very pretty and needs some fix-ups, but is much cheaper, AND.....I can be much more flexible with the terms, lower down payment, lower rent, longer term, etc!
So if you have clients who cannot afford the Camosun house, maybe we can make a deal on this one!
Check them both it out here! www.wesellhomesbc.com
then.....CALL CORNELL to Discuss Terms: 250-616-9053
PS: Yes, if you bring me a buyer I will pay you a $1,000 Referral Fee!
Cheers;
Cornell
C: 250-616-9053
We Sell Homes (B.C.) Inc.
www.wesellhomesbc.com
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