March 2013

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Victoria
Real Estate
Investors Club Newsletter

Meeting Tues Mar 26, 7pm,
Victoria Ramada Hotel

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Hi Folks!

Flowers are popping up everywhere here in paradise. I'm getting that Spring Is In The Air feeling and it's Good! My motorcycle is getting used at least once a week now. That new jacket I picked up on Black Friday last year in Thousand Oaks CA has proven worth it. I thought I was getting wimpy feeling the cold in my old leather jacket. Turns out my old black leather jacket wasn't built for the cold and my 20 year loyalty to it has just plain run out. Now I'm warm and bright yellow out on the road.

Denise and I have been re-visiting many things we've been holding on to for the last 20 years. Material things and inside the head things like beliefs, stories of how life is and what's really important.

Our last Nanaimo property at 630 Nicol is still for sale. We've dropped the price to $219,000. While that's moving on, so are a whole bunch of books, knick knacks, clothes and various bits and pieces. We're having a party soon and all attendees will be taking away our stuff Free Of Charge (if they bring a bottle of wine or some finger food). If that doesn't clean us out, it all gets donated.

On the "inside the head" category, I'm getting rid of the story that I should take anything Denise says about me as a personal afront. Then there's my loyalty oath to Victoria being my home. My new story is - where I'm standing is home.

All this house-cleaning is having an interesting effect. I feel more in touch with what is really true for me and am not caring so much about things I cannot control or only exist in my head as stories. As a result. decision making is easier and quicker.

There's an article below on how to approach estimating repairs to your next property acquisition. It's common sense AND anybody can do it - no special education required.

There are two opportunities in the last article below. One in Cowichan Bay and one in Victoria. Check 'em out.

Our next monthly meeting is Tuesday Mar 26. R. Mike Mullin will bring fresh information on investing up and down the east side of Vancouver Island.

See you next Tuesday,

Gord Knox
Meeting Tuesday March 26
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Speaker: R. Mike Mullin, CGA  

 

Topic: Best Island Communities to Invest In.

 

Mike is a Realtor and Mortgage Broker and says: 

 

As my usual areas of operations include Campbell River, the Comox Valley, Nanaimo and Victoria, I am often asked which provide the best residential rental opportunities.

 

To that end Mike will give us his impressions of those communities from a real estate investors perspective. 

 

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When I started flipping houses, I didn't really know squat about construction, the cost of repairs, cost of materials, what materials to use, the time it should take, who should do the work, etc...

I really was clueless when it came to this aspect of flipping houses, which can be a pretty big problem when you need to be able to figure out the cost of repairs in order to make an intelligent offer to buy a house. This was something I was going to have to learn in order to make it in this business without losing my shirt.

 

Good news. I haven't lost my shirt. I'm still wearing it.

 

How To Keep Your Shirt

...and possibly get a Hawaiian one. I get to that later in the article.

Yeah, there were times when I made mistakes. Times when I was getting into arguments with contractors and I honestly was not confident in my position. Those were awkward. But, I learned from my mistakes and didn't let them stop me continuing on and becoming a successful real estate investor.

So how do we learn how to estimate repairs when we don't know what the heck we are doing?

Let's go through the steps necessary.


1. Find Someone That Does Know What They Are Doing

The quickest way to learn what repairs are normally necessary and what they should cost is to ask an experienced investor. Try and find a local rehabber that has been in the business at least for several years that rehabs several houses a year. If you cannot find one willing to help, you could always approach a contractor that works for such an investor. This way you will have a contact for someone that can do the work on your flip houses.

There are several ways to find these investors and contractors:

  • Your local REIA (Real Estate Investor Association) meeting
  • Driving neighborhoods and looking for rehabs taking place
  • Calling on their ads (look for 'we buy houses' type advertisting)
  • On the BiggerPockets.com forums (lots of helpful people there)
2. Give Them Something In Exchange For Their Help

Don't expect people to take time out of their busy day to spend hours helping you for nothing. It's not likely and you will probaby tick some people off. It's best to know what you can offer them in exchange for their help before you ask.

Here are some ideas of things you can offer:

  • Treat them to lunch at a restaurant of their choosing
  • Offer to pay them for their time (per hour might be a good idea)
  • If you are planning on wholesaling, offer to send them your deals first
  • Offer to do some leg work for them (check on properties etc.)
3. Have Them Show You The Ropes

Once you've found someone with experience have them show you the ropes. If they don't have a house that is run down available at the moment, set up a showing for a bank-owned property that needs a lot of repairs. Try to make sure the house is in the typical area you plan to invest in. This is important because the level of rehab is going to depend on the price range and your investment strategy.

Go through the house with your new coach and have them give the typical costs and rules of thumb for determining cost for every item in the house. Don't skip something because the house you look at doesn't need it. You want information on the costs for everything.


4. Keep Good Notes

Make sure that you take tons of pictures and write down everything he/she says. You might want to video tape the experience to catch everything.

Be prepared by having plenty of time (at least an hour or two) to cover everything in depth and ask a lot of questions. What may be obvious to them may not be obvious to you.


5. Visit the Home Improvement Box Stores

If you are going to be rehabbing the houses you buy, you should take a trip to the big home improvement stores. Find the materials that you will want to use and write down (or take pictures of) the item, the price, and the SKU number for each item.

This way you will know the cost of the materials you will want to use and will save you time. Before we did this, I wasted far too much time going to these stores to find one or two things. It was ridiculous. Once we made a spreadsheet of the items we would use, I no longer had to go back.

This really helps the contractors also. We have them bid labor and materials for the jobs and it's best to tell them exactly (with SKU #s) what materials we want to use and what they will cost.

Don't make the mistake I've made before where I didn't specify exactly what to use. Get what they used? Yep, the cheapest of the cheap. It was horrible.


Conclusion

Now, when you go to look at that prospective house flip, you will have an idea of what the repair costs should be. If you have a question about an item or two, you can make a call to someone more experienced that can give you the answers you're looking for.

Without this education, you really are at a huge disadvantage and are likely to lose your shirt on a house flip.

If you do well and flip enough houses to go full-time as a real estate investor, you can buy yourself a Hawaiian shirt. I don't know if that is a common thing, but my wife and I noticed that all the full-time investors wore Hawaiian shirts. When I went full-time, she got me one.

 

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Disclaimer: It's true, Matt and Cornell sound honest as the day is long (and it's getting longer every day!). On the other hand, if you do business with either of them and end up owning something leaky or have a contract with someone you can't get out of for the rest of your life, don't come crying to me. Below is just information I'm passing along. Do your due diligence with these folks before you sign anything!! 

Matt Loken says:


I currently own a floathome in Cowichan Bay (1700 sq ft 3 bed 2 bath) that is leased for $1700 per month. The moorage is $800 per month so it generates quite good cash flow. The current tenants are saving up a down payment and wish to purchase the floathome in the next couple of years for approx $200k.  They are willing to consider a rent to own or private finace deal right now as well.  I have other projects that I would like to free up the cash for and I am interested in selling the floathome to another investor looking for a cashflow property with built in buyers.

You can email me at matt_loken@hotmail.com or call me at 250-213-1545.

Cornell Pidruchney says:

Cornell is offering a $1,000 Referral Fee if you refer him a Tenant/Buyer who enters into a Rent-To-Own Agreement on either of his 2 homes in Victoria.

 

3091 Carroll Street or 4088 Quadra Street.   

 

These good homes each have basement suites that are rented, and Cornell is also open to renting the upper levels, which each have 3 bedrooms.

An RTO buyer could live in the upper level and enjoy the rental income from the suite!

 

PS:  Cornell is flexible on the terms and would be willing to accept a very small down payment if appropriate.

 

For details see:   www.WeSellHomesBC.com

Or call Cornell: 250-616-9053