November 2012

Thousand Oaks home
Victoria
Real Estate
Investors Club Newsletter 

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Hi Folks,

We've had up to 13 doors in our portfolio. At the same time we had 3 partners and two corporations. Our business filing cabinet had three full drawers of files, four feet wide each. The tenant files were accessed regularly, corporate files once or twice a year and the property files about four to six times a year on average. Each property had a complete set of bookkeeping files (about 10 to 12 categories). I kept an index of all that in my head and just put paper in the correct place as it arrived. Quarterly we'd hand our corporate-owned property files over to the bookkeeper to keep our cash-flow spreadsheets up-to-date. Annually we'd hand them all over to the accountant for tax processing.

How did we know to do all this? Our mentors taught us. We weren't perfect using that system. Sometimes our partners were unhappy, many times our bookkeeper must have been frustrated and occasionally I had no clue where important papers were or what they were for. After 3 or 4 years we had a consistently working system.

The cool thing was that I was sure that all that effort was the right thing to do and that ultimately we had enough paper to satisfy any regulatory body and keep us and our partners on speaking terms and out of trouble with the CRA. It remains to be seen if that's true in the long run ;-)

On Tuesday Nov. 27 Bill Stafford will give us his version of how all that should work. He's been helping folks do their books and taxes in the Victoria area for over 20 years and should be considered an expert IMO. It's never too late to get your books in order. Come out and meet Bill and learn some more skills at being an expert RE investor. See meeting details below.

We're still down south in Phoenix (with short trips to Austin TX and Thousand Oaks CA). Denise and our friend Erik are continuing their search in Phoenix for a good flip. Nice single families and town homes that need some work are still going for $90K to $150K, if you act quickly and know where to look. We'll be back around Dec 14. On a personal note, our Mini and Mickey Mouse costumes won Best Costume prize at Erik's halloween party.

There's a feel-good article, in RE NEWS to the right, about one couple's RE investment in Arizona. Sedona is a special place IMO. Visit it if you can.

An OPPORTUNITY exists for you to get a referral fee from Cornell. See last article.

To get you warmed up on bookkeeping, read the article below about DIY or out-sourcing that important function of your business.

Take Care,
Gord Knox
Next monthly meeting Nov 27
Meeting Drawing
Topic: Bookkeeping and Tax Preparation for Real Estate Investors

Speaker: Bill Stafford from Cheques & Balances Bookkeeping

Do you keep good records and files for your real estate transactions and management? Do you have a bookkeeper and tax accountant? Do you talk to them regularly or just dump off some shoe boxes once or twice a year? These folks are important parts of your team if you're gonna do it right.

Bill founded Lionheart Tax Services in 1991 with one office and 500 clients. By 2009 the business had grown to 5 locations and 7,000 clients. In December of 2009 Bill sold the personal tax side of the business to H&R Block.

 

Cheques & Balances Bookkeeping was created at that time to offer bookkeeping and corporate tax services and also offers personal tax preparation to current bookkeeping and accounting clients only.

 

Bill has extensive tax and bookkeeping experience within the revenue property arena, guiding clients to set their affairs into best tax advantages as possible. Whether it is personal or corporate tax circumstances, he will show you how to keep proper records and save your tax dollars.

 

Tuesday Nov 27, 7 pm

Comfort Hotel and Suites

3020 Blanshard St

Victoria

$15 at the door (no charge for annual members)

 

We have an after-meeting meeting down the hall and up the stairs at Redd's for socializing and networking. It's fun so plan to stay a bit later. 

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Should You DIY or Outsource Your Bookkeeping?
By Angela A Roberts

The first thing to consider is whether you know and are comfortable with what needs to be done to complete your own bookkeeping. An answer of no to this will mean either needing to learn what you need to know or outsourcing the bookkeeping.

Learning the ins and outs of bookkeeping, accounting rules and the functionality of your chosen accounting software is overwhelming and costly when just starting out. It also isn't very interesting and can take time away from more important things you should be focusing on in your business, such as sales and marketing and completing actual paid work.

Micro businesses can get away with keeping a simple spreadsheet in excel tracking all the expenses of the business and totaling up the income. This can be used to complete BAS returns and used by your accountant at year end for the business tax returns.

Once you progress into the realm of software though, it's a different story. Do you really want to attend days of training programs and read through reams of user manuals, scour the internet for answers to your bookkeeping questions and still potentially mess it all up and cop a big bill from your accountant at the end of the year?

I see no problem in doing this if you haven't got anything better to do. What I hear from my clients who tried the DIY route first, is that by handing over the bookkeeping, it suddenly frees up that space in their mind that allows them to come home to their family in the evening and not worry about receipts, bills, BAS's and all the other potential stress inducing issues that arise when accounting for a business. This free space allows them to think creatively about their business and most importantly, do things they love, to relax and unwind at the end of the day.

You may also be surprised at the potential competitive advantage you can have when your accounts are completed properly and all your compliance needs are met throughout they year. Lets have a look at an everyday situation and assume that each hour that you put into your business is also worth $90 per hour and the bookkeeping is completed monthly.

Hours Spent Cost

Business Owner 12 $1080

Bookkeeper 4 $360

Advantage Gained $720

Hours Spent will vary depending on the skill level of the business owner (and of the bookkeeper!). As a side note, choosing a bookkeeper based on hourly rate only could see the above hours spent in the bookkeeper row hit upwards of 20 hours, even though you get the benefit of a $35 hourly rate. Don't laugh, I've seen it too many times! Even then, if they are a good bookkeeper you're still saving money by devoting your time elsewhere and growing your own sales.

First consultation free to discuss your needs http://www.ajaccounting.com.au
Article Source: Should You DIY or Outsource Your Bookkeeping?
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