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INVESTOR-STATE IN TPA

"I think we should jettison it.  We should get rid of ISDS [Investor-State Dispute Settlement]."

Dan Ikenson
January 29, 2013
CONTEXT
Daniel Ikenson is the Director of the Cato Institute's Herbert A. Stiefel Center for Trade Policy Studies.  On January 29 he was the fifth and final presenter at the GBD colloquium, TPA and the Observer Effect.  His opening greeting to the audience had two lighthearted but reverberating notes.  The first was a small joke at Cato's expense:  "It is not every day," he said, "that we flame throwers at Cato get invited into polite society."  The second, which also got a laugh, was to compare trade policy in America today to Monty Python's Flying Circus. 

The Monty Python remark was just a short, self-contained description of a difficult situation.  The "flame thrower" reference, however, was a predicate to today's quote and the suggestion that Investor-State Dispute Settlement be dropped from the legislation on Trade Promotion Authority and presumably from the two major FTA negotiations: the Trans-Pacific Partnership, TPP, and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership or TTIP.

Mr. Ikenson praised the work that has been done in both the TPP and TTIP negotiations but otherwise did not say much about them.  What he focused on instead was America's internal debate over trade, that is, the domestic negotiations.  "It seems to me that they [the domestic negotiations] have been neglected for quite a long time," he said.  He was critical of what he described as President Obama's lack of enthusiasm for trade and his "go-it-alone" attitude toward other policies.  The former has allowed anti-trade arguments to flourish and the latter, the go-it-alone approach to other policies, will make it harder for the White House to work with Republicans who could be his allies on the major trade issues.

Among the ideas Mr. Ikenson called myths was the notion that trade is a competition, with exports our points, imports their points, and the trade balance as the scoreboard.  From that scenario, Mr. Ikenson identified and rejected the argument that: "We have a trade deficit; so we are losing at trade.  And we are losing because the other team is cheating." 

He also strongly rejected the argument that trade is a race to the bottom.  If that were the case, he said, the United States would not be the number one destination for foreign investment, which it is, and there wouldn't be some six million Americans working for companies with foreign headquarters, which there are.

After his discussion of "myths," Mr. Ikenson turned squarely to the issue of Trade Promotion of Authority and the challenge of getting a TPA bill through both houses.  Here is some of what he said:

"Despite all of these lamentations, I am going to grant that the climate, the prospects for trade liberalization are greater today than at any time since 2006.  ...

"But in order for TPA to pass, we need to get to 218 votes in the House.  And I think that is going to require some changes in the legislation. ...

 "The way the story is put..., big multinational corporations are going to run roughshod over domestic law-making. And what that gets to is the investor-state dispute settlement system. 

"I think we should jettison it.  We should get rid of ISDS."

COMMENT
It is said that a week is a long time in politics.  So is a day.  Mr. Ikenson spoke to GBD on the morning of January 29th.    That afternoon, the Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), made it very clear that he is not interested in moving TPA legislation any time soon, and things have gone down-hill from there.  Yesterday (February 12), the Minority Leader of the House, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), was even more emphatic in rejecting a TPA bill than Senator Reid had been.  "No on fast track ... out of the question," she said, addressing a gathering of the United Steel Workers and the Blue-Green Alliance.   As for the incoming chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), he's keeping his powder dry, saying he's "got some listening to do."

We are not quite sure what originally prompted this quote from Winston Churchill, but in a way it fits in this current American trade setting:

"Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm."   -- Winston Churchill

We think that the TPP and TTIP negotiations will lead to success, and possibly it will be a success for which some form of TPA has paved the way.  That's the good news.  The bad news is that we have no idea how many failures will have to be endured first.  To say the least, the next couple of years are likely to be very difficult.  And, although new issues may arise in the meantime, many of the issues Mr. Ikenson raised are at the top of today's to-do pile.  In closing out this entry, we would like to separate two that he put together in his final "flame-throwing" comment on investor-state and TPA.

Taking Investment Out of TPA.  Mr. Ikenson may be on to something here.  As for the essential nature of investor-state dispute systems, we tend to see them in a positive light.  If countries and their citizens benefit from investments, then providing solid legal frameworks for those investments is a good thing.  As for the notion that it is unduly burdensome for national governments to have to defend their actions against companies in court or in international tribunals, frankly, we find it ludicrous.

It is, nevertheless, undeniable that opponents of trade agreements have had great success with their arguments to the effect that the investment provisions of those agreements are sops to industry that threaten national sovereignty.  They cut their teeth in killing the OECD Multilateral Agreement on Investment in the late 1990s, and the same arguments are now being used against TPP and TTIP.  The European Union's recent decision to halt the investment portion of the TTIP negotiations highlights the issue as nothing else could.  And, if there is anything that is certain in any aspect of public policy, it is that the rhetoric surrounding this issue will get even hotter next month when the EU releases the draft text of the TTIP investment chapter.

As it happens, the EU and its Member States already have some 1,400 bilateral investment agreements with investor-state provisions.  The U.S. too has other options.  So in urging the drafters of the TPA bill to drop the investment provisions, Mr. Ikenson may be on to something. 

On Tobacco.  And he may be right too in suggesting that TPA's supporters will be better off if they are not saddled with the tobacco debate - specifically, the possible outcomes to the challenges to Australia plain packaging law.   We will not go into the details here.  Suffice it to say that the law has been in effect since December 2012, and it is being challenged both in the WTO and in an investment tribunal.  The three things that concern us about the issue are:

First, a principle.   Plain packaging legislation is now being considered in New Zealand, and the leader of the country's small ACT party, John Banks, expressed it when he said, "I don't believe the state should seize property rights from legitimate companies selling legitimate products."  His reference, of course, is to the trademarks of the tobacco companies.  The statement takes on more meaning when you consider that countries frequently ban harmful products, and they have not chosen to do so with tobacco.

Second, tobacco is a pariah.  It isn't good for you, and non-tobacco firms want to stay as far away from it as possible.  But public moods are fickle, more fickle than long-term investment decisions.  Just maybe Mr. Banks' focus on "legitimate companies selling legitimate products" is the right one. 

Third, a false choice.  The plain packaging controversy highlights another idea that perhaps should not be ignored.  Much of the rhetoric suggests that the tobacco companies are wrong to defend their interests legally.   The larger point of that same rhetoric is this: where systems, investor-state, allow for compensation to firms, governments cannot exercise their regulatory will.  In our view, that is a false notion and should be challenged.  Though not, perhaps, in the context of a debate over trade promotion authority.

SOURCES & LINKS
From a Flame Thrower is a link to the audio file with Mr. Ikenson GBD presentation on January 29, 2014.

From the President and Senator Reid.  This is the TTALK Quote from January 29.  It includes the TPA comment from President Obama's January 28 State of the Union Address and the comments made in the Senate the following day by Senator Reid.
 
Pelosi Says No is a link to the February 12 Reuters story with these comments from the Minority Leader.

Wyden Takes It Slow is a link to the February 6 Bloomberg story with the above quote from Senator Wyden.

The EU Takes a Time-Out on Investment.  This a link to the EU statement on this development.

Plain Packaging in New Zealand is an article from Stuff.co.nz describing the progress of New Zealand's plain packaging legislation, including the comment quoted above from John Banks.
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