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October 2010
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Hi Folks!

We had a fun breakfast meeting on Saturday. There were old friends, people who we'd never met before and the usual occasional drop-ins. These events are noisy, informative and some of the conversations continue for awhile in the parking lot after the food bit is done. Some of the topics I heard being discussed were: meditation, defunct investment opportunities, current listings, the local economy, 4-plexes in Nova Scotia and land banking. C'mon out on next time and join us. Bring a friend!

Many of us RE investors realize that having a partner is the only way to get a particular deal happening. At the bottom of this newsletter, Dave Peniuk weighs in on how to screen a potential partner for a real estate project. Lots of common sense and rational thoughts. Selecting a joint-venture partner is NOT like selecting a life-partner. One of my lawyer friends always says "in business, partnerships are meant to be broken". Behind that seemingly negative viewpoint is some hard-earned wisdom.

I recommend you add an item to your property purchase checklist (you have a checklist don't you?) that is - can I get someone to give me money if I buy this place? The article below "Top 17 Grants and Rebates for Home Owners and Home Buyers" gives a glimpse of the many incentives governments offer that can make your property a little more profitable. If you can't use any of them, please share them with your family and friends.

I've read a lot in the past about tax sale RE investing as a system one can use to make their money work hard. This can work well in many places in the US where local governments have a strict policy about collecting property taxes and investors are encouraged to jump in and potentially receive a nice return on their money and/or end up owning a property for the price of the taxes owed. In Canada back taxes are seldom a place for investors. There is the odd exception. The news item below about a condo in Oak Bay which was sold at tax auction shows that paying attention to tax sales in Canada can sometimes uncover great deals. One caveat about auctions: ya gotta bring cash. I suspect that knowing someone at city hall helps too. Call any city hall and ask them when their next tax sale is, how the public is notified and how you can participate. Just showing up and watching the process is a learning experience IMO.

There's some quality RE Investing training now available on Vancouver Island that was only for main-landers in the past. Ozzie Jurock's Real Estate Action Group has started in Victoria. As well there will be a Real Estate Action Weekend in Victoria on November 19 and 20. Next monthly REAG
monthly club meeting is at the Comfort Inn on November 16, 7pm. Ralph Case, Ozzie's partner, is the facilitator. Check here for club benefits. I recommend this education! Ralph will be speaking at the next club meeting on Tues. Oct 26. Join us for his informative talk. See next article for details.

For you property owner/manger types, check out the ROMS BC lunch-time seminar on October 20 in the right side-bar below, lunch included! Quality education, immediately usable, local.

There is an opportunity to partner up with an active investor in the OPPORTUNITIES section way down at the bottom of this newsletter. As always, research everything thoroughly before investing.

Finally, if anyone can tell me what the article about the new housing price index means, let me know. Someone should invent a translater for conversion from economic-speak to plain language. I'm sure there's some useful info in that article, I just can't tell what it is.

Take care of each other!

Gord Knox

Tuesday October 26 Meeting Ralph Case pic

SPEAKER: Ralph Case

Ralph is President of the Real Estate Action Group, an organization with monthly membership designed to help members take action in Real Estate investing: www.reag.ca. From 2004 to 2008 he bought and sold over 1400 residential units either individually or with his joint venture partners. Ralph is co-founder of Worldwide Referrals Realty and has been a speaker at Real Estate and Investment conferences across Canada. He is also an author in the book Real Estate Action.

Ralph will share his knowledge and experience on the Canadian Foreclosure market, buying apartment buildings and give an update on the Vancouver Island real estate market.

Ralph will also make a special offer to join the Victoria chapter of the Real Estate Action Group. A benefit: no charge entrance to VREIC meetings!
 
7 - 9 pm
Tuesday October 26, 2010
Comfort Hotel
3020 Blanshard St
 
$15 at the door (no charge for annual members)
 
There's always an after-meeting meeting at Redd's down the hall for networking, socializing, eating, etc.

 Top 17 Grants and Rebates for Home Owners and Home Buyers

1. Home Buyers' Plan
Qualifying homebuyers can withdraw up to $25,000 (couples can withdraw up to $50,000) from their RRSPs for a down payment. Homebuyers who have repaid their RRSP may be eligible to use the program a second time. (Go to www.cra.gc.ca, enter "Home Buyers' Plan" in the search box or, phone 1-800-959-8287.)

2. GST Rebate on New Homes
New homebuyers can apply for a rebate of the federal portion of the HST (the 5% GST) if the purchase price is less than $350,000. The rebate is up to 36% of the GST to a maximum rebate of $6,300. There is a proportional GST rebate for new homes costing between $350,000 and $450,000. (Go to www.cra-arc.gc.ca, enter "RC4028" in the search box or, call 1-800-959-8287.)

3. BC New Housing Rebate (HST)
Buyers of new or substantially renovated homes priced up to $525,000 are eligible for a rebate of 71.43% of the provincial portion (7% of the 12% HST) paid to a maximum rebate of $26,250. Homes priced at $525,000+ are eligible for a flat rebate of $26,250. (Go to http://hst.blog.gov.bc.ca/faqs/new-housing-rebate or, call 1-800-959-8287)

4. BC New Rental Housing Rebate (HST)
Landlords buying new or substantially renovated homes are eligible for a rebate of 71.43% of the provincial portion of the HST, up to $26,250 per unit. (Go to http://hst.blog.gov.bc.ca/faqs/new-housing-rebate or, call 1-800- 959-8287.)

5. Property Transfer Tax (PTT) First Time Home Buyers' Program
Qualifying first-time buyers may be exempt from paying the PTT of 1% on the first $200,000 and 2% on the remainder of the purchase price of a home priced up to $425,000. There is a proportional exemption for homes priced up to $450,000. (Go to www.rev.gov.bc.ca/rpt or, call 250-387-0604.)

6. First-time Home Buyers Tax Credit (HBTC)
This is a non-refundable income tax credit for qualifying buyers of detached, attached, apartment condominiums, mobile homes or shares in a cooperative housing corporation. It's calculated by multiplying the lowest personal income tax rate for the year (15% in 2009) by $5,000. For 2009, the maximum credit was $750. (Go to www.cra-arc.gc.ca/hbtc or, call 1-800-959-8281.)

7. BC Home Owner Grant
Reduces school property taxes by up to $570 on properties with an assessed value up to $1,050,000.
For 2010, the basic grant is reduced by $5 for each $1,000 of value over $1,050,000, and eliminated on homes assessed at $1,164,000+. An additional grant reduces property tax by a further $275 for a total of $845 for seniors, veterans and the disabled. This is reduced by $5 for each $1,000 of assessed value over $1,050,000 and eliminated on homes assessed at $1,219,000+. (Go to www.rev.gov.bc.ca/hog or, your municipal tax office.)

8. BC Property Tax Deferment Programs
Property Tax Deferment Program for Seniors Qualifying home owners aged 55+ may be eligible to defer property taxes. Financial Hardship Property Tax Deferment Program Qualifying low-income home owners may be eligible to defer property taxes.
Property Tax Deferment Program for Families with Children Qualifying low income home owners who financially support children under age 18 may be eligible to defer property taxes. (Go to www.sbr.gov.bc.ca, enter "Property tax deferment" in the search box or, call your municipal tax office.)

9. Canada Mortgage and Housing (CMHC) Residential Rehabilitation Assistance Program (RRAP) Grants
This federal program provides financial aid to qualifying low income homeowners to repair substandard housing. Eligible repairs include heating, structural, electrical, plumbing and fire safety. Grants are available for seniors, persons with disabilities, owners of rental properties and for the creation of secondary and garden suites. (Go to www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/co/prfinas/prfinas_001.cfm, or, call 1-800-668-2642 or 604-873-7408.)

10. CMHC Mortgage Loan Insurance Premium Refund
Provides homebuyers with CMHC mortgage insurance, a 10% premium refund and possible extended amortization without surcharge when buyers purchase an energy efficient home or make energy savings renovations. (Go to www.cmhc.ca/en/co/moloin/moloin_008.cfm#reno or, call 604-731-5733.)

11. LiveSmart BC: Efficiency Incentive Program
Homeowners improving the energy efficiency of their homes who hire a certified energy advisor may qualify for cash incentives through this provincial program provided in partnership with Terasen Gas, BC Hydro, and FortisBC.(Go to www.livesmartbc.ca/rebates or, call 1-866-430-8765.)

12. BC Residential Energy Credit
Homeowners and residential landlords buying heating fuel receive a BC government point-of-sale rebate on utility bills equal to the provincial component of the HST. (Go to http://hst.blog.gov.bc.ca/faqs/energy-credit or, call 604-660-4524.)

13. BC Hydro Appliance Rebates
Mail-in rebates of $25-$50 for purchasers of ENERGY STAR™ clothes washers, refrigerators, dishwashers, or freezers between June 1, 2010 and March 31, 2011, or when funding is exhausted. (Go to www.bchydro.com/rebates_savings/appliance_rebates.html or, call 1-800-224-9376.)

14. BC Hydro Fridge Buy-Back Program (different from Appliance rebates)
This ongoing program rebates BC Hydro customers $30 to turn in spare fridges measuring 10-24 cubic feet in working condition. (Go to www.bchydro.com/rebates_savings/fridge_buy_back.html or, call 604-881-4357.)

15. BC Hydro Mail-in Rebates/Savings Coupons
BC Hydro offers rebates including 10% off an ENERGY STAR™ cordless phone; 50% off an E2TM dual-flush toilet; $15 off a clothes drying rack; and 50% off Earth Massage showerheads. Check for deadlines. (Go to www.bchydro.com/rebates_savings/coupons.html or, call 1-800-224-9376.)

16. Terasen Gas Rebate program
Rebates for homeowners include a $25 gift cards for furnace servicing; $50 rebates for upgrading a water heater; $150 rebate on an EnerChoice fireplace; $1,000 rebate for switching to natural gas and installing an ENERGY STAR heating system. (Go to www.terasengas.com/homes/offers/lowermainlandsquamish.html or, call 1-888-224-2710.)

17. SolarBC Incentives
Contractors will provide homeowners buying a solar hot water system with a $2,000 discount at the point of sale until December 31, 2010. (Go to www.solarbc.ca/learn/incentives-costs or, call 1-866-650-6527.)

 
How to Screen a Prospective Real Estate Joint Venture Partner

By Dave Peniuk

These days, a lot of attention is put on how to find money to do your real estate deals. But what if you're someone with a bit of money to invest? How do you know what makes a good deal?

One of the easiest ways to invest in real estate when you have the cash to invest is to partner up with someone that has a great track record, is investing in the kind of deals that work for your goals and can offer you a deal that makes sense for your money. But how do you find them? And how do you screen them to make sure they are a good fit for you, and for your hard earned cash?

These days the easiest way to find prospective joint venture partners is to do a search online. Most of the folks running an investment business have a website or blog dedicated to explaining the types of deals they do and providing some sort of education and information. You could do a search for real estate investment opportunities and your area to find someone local.

But, personally, I think the best way to find someone to invest with is to drop into a couple of your local real estate investing club meetings. You can also ask your friends and family if they know of anybody successfully investing in real estate.

Once you find a few different people, meet with each of them face to face. In my opinion, you are investing as much, or more, in the person's ability to manage the deal as you are in the deal itself. You want to make sure the person you're investing your money with checks out.

Ask yourself and your prospective partner:

Does this investment fit my goals? If you want to learn about real estate along the way you might want to find a partner that is willing and able to teach you as well as invest your money. If you really want to be hands on with your deals then you will be looking for somebody that will work with a hands on partner and perhaps give you a greater share of the deal in exchange for your efforts. Or if you want to wash your hands of the whole thing, make sure you find someone capable of making good decisions once you've turned over your capital. You have to know what is most important for you - and then check whether this prospective partner and the deals they are doing will fit with your goals.

What is your track record? Past performance doesn't always indicate future success but how this question is answered can tell you a lot about someone. We've earned one of our partners over 700% return on his investment in six years. We also earned the same partner 110% on another investment in five years. I rarely mention either of these examples to prospective partners because I don't want to set expectations that high when much of that return was thanks to a rapidly increasing market. Instead, I will tell them that there are no guarantees in anything, let alone real estate but because of x, y and z I feel pretty comfortable suggesting a 15% - 20% return on most of the investments we do.

Listen carefully to how someone answers this question. If they tell you about their best deals and don't mention the worst, dig into the bad deals they've done to get a sense of how they have learned from their past experiences. And to get a sense of how honest and upfront they are. Look for a decision making process and an ability to take responsibility for the bad deals. That's far more important than finding someone who made a 700% return on someone's money one time.

What is your credit like? Can I get a copy of your credit report? If you're going to turn your money over to someone to manage I think you have every right to understand how your prospective partner is managing their own money. I would never trust someone else with my money if they can't even manage their own. Nobody loves MY MONEY as much as I do so if somebody else isn't loving their own money how can I feel comfortable they will give mine the attention and care it deserves?

Do you have references? Ask to speak with one or two of the people they've partnered with before. If they've never partnered with anyone you could speak to present or past coworkers. I believe a good indication of how someone will handle themselves in their investments is how they handle themselves at work. If they were good decision makers and got along well with others at the office then there is a very good chance they will get along well and make good decisions on your deals.

Asking these questions is a good start but it's not enough. ALWAYS go and check out the deal yourself. It's not about second guessing the expertise and experience of the person you're working with, it's about covering your butt. Look at the property to identify work that might be required in the near future. Walk the neighbourhood to make sure it's a good market to invest in. And ask any questions you might want to know about how the property will be filled with tenants (who is doing that, how do they screen tenants, what do they look for in tenants).

Finally - determine if there are alternate exit strategies for the property. Are there other ways to get out of this deal if the proposed strategy doesn't work.

Once you're satisfied with all of the above then you can feel comfortable and confident moving forward to discuss terms of the deal and possibly get into real estate with a joint venture partner.

Dave Peniuk is a full time real estate investor with a passion for helping other investors succeed. Get his Real Estate Investing Starter Tips Guide free when you sign up for his weekly real estate investing newsletter at http://www.revnyou.com.

Article Source: How to Screen a Prospective Real Estate Joint Venture Partner
 
OPPORTUNITIES

Disclaimer: It's just a coincidence that Cornell's request is for JV partners given the article above. He's ALWAYS looking for partners in my experience. He's a smart guy and I'm sure he has a great plan for your money. Still, investing is always about doing enough research and checking facts. If you hand him a bank draft for $25k and two weeks later get an email showing photos of him riding a camel in Egypt, petting a zebra on the Serengeti Plains and surfing off Cape Town, instead of a copy of a title report with your name on it, too bad for you. Cornell likes to travel and you should've asked him about that before hand.

Cornell says:

I would appreciate if you would advertise that I am looking for JV partners with $20K cash or more, who want to be silent partners and own an interest in positive cashflow properties, with most of their funds secured as 2nd mortgages, and potential to make great profits!

Cornell Pidruchney
Direct: 250-756-9239    Toll-Free: 1-866-756-9239
Fax: 1-866-756-0150 cornellp@4pillars.ca www.4pillars.ca


PS: Cornell asked me to note that these properties will be held using long term lease-purchase options. Ask him for details.
 
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