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Victoria Real Estate Investors Club Newsletter October, 2008
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Breakfast Meeting
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SPECIAL EVENT!
Saturday October 18, 2008
9:30 am
Wealth By Design office
#104, 2780 Veterans Memorial Parkway
Presentation by Denise, overview of Jurock's LandRush USA and Outlook 2009 events.
Bagels, cream cheese, tea/coffee provided (bring more if you wish).
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VREIC CRUISE
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Apr 30 - May 3, 2009
Los Angeles to Vancouver.
Aboard the Norwegian Sun!
Click here for details.
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Hi Folks!
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We appear to be in "Interesting Times". I'm excited! The cycle of boom-bust, overprice-correct is right on schedule IMO. If you had your retirement savings in the stock market, you're probably excited right now too. Watch for the dramatic recovery in a few months/years (as it always does) OR NOT? If you want to delve deeper into alternate viewpoints on how our economy might work (rather than monetary), check out the movie Zeitgeist Addendum on google videos. After watching it I got quite excited about our long-term future on the planet.
At the October 28 meeting we're having speakers from down south talk about the Arizona Land Rush. What's that, you might ask? Please come out to the meeting and find out. A few clues below. Any excuse to visit the desert is a good excuse IMO.
Dan Barton continues to provide great RE education and has an event on Oct 22 here in Victoria. Follow the this link for more info and to register for this no-charge event.
My friend Paul Akers has a continuing analysis of the monetary "situation" and it's effects on us RE investors. See below.
Our breakfast meeting will be DIFFERENT this month. Denise will give a short presentation on the Jurock LandRush USA and Outlook 2009 events we recently attended. Therefore it will be held at Wealth By Design, Suite 104, 2780 Veterans Memorial Parkway in Langford, 9:30 am. Bagels, cream cheese and coffee/tea will be provided. Bring your own food/drink if you wish. Map here.
Let's go Cruisin'! The VREIC Cruise is filling nicely. One of our members, Joy B. is looking a cabin-mate. Were you contemplating coming along but not sure how it would look? Joy could help you figure that out. Contact her at 384-6707.
Gord Knox
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Advert
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Keller Williams Realty
323-1095 McKenzie Ave.
Victoria, BC V8P 2L5
Phone: 250-595-3200
Fax: 1-866-909-9246
david@davidhale.com
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| October 26th, 2008 Meeting
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Arizona Land Rush
We're getting lots of attention from U.S. real estate opportunities here at club head office (my desk). With the help of David Hale, I've invited the following folks to bring us up to speed on Arizona at the next meeting. We're having Mike Davey, Mike Chauncey James Cole and Jeanice Bartzen speak. Mike Davey is a Real Estate Professional:
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Resident of Arizona for 23
years
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Six years Real Estate
experience
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Multi-million dollar producer
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30 years Airline experience
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Currently Boeing 757 Captain,
US Airways
Mike Chauncey is a Mortgage Loan Office and Real Estate Professional: - Resident of Arizona for 23 years
- Twenty years Real Estate experience
- Seven years experience in the Mortgage Business
- Currently, Mortgage Loan Officer, US Bank
James and Jenice of Elite Landlord Consultant: - Resident of Arizona for eleven years
- Nine Years Real Estate Experience
- Jeanice, extensive Property Management background
- James, fifteen year Law Enforcement background
These folks are going to demonstrate why Arizona has a healthy RE investing climate and what's so great about Arizona. Tuesday October 28, 2008 Holiday Inn Victoria 3020 Blanshard St Victoria 7 - 9 pm $15 at the door (annual members no charge) after-meeting meeting at Red's down the hall.
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| Opportunities
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Hey, these opportunities are probably risky! Do some research, ask your team's experts for their opinions, sleep on it, whatever, before you give these folks your money. I'm only showing them to you because I'm feeling generous today.
Cornell Pidruchney says:
$98K Vancouver Island Cottage on 2/3 Acre!
Great price for older cottage on almost 2/3 of an acre that backs onto a sparkling clean creek, near Salmon River! No zoning, build your dream cabin or drop in your RV or mobile home too. Property only 40 mins north of Campbell River on Vancouver Island. Cottage has a 200 amp elec service, newer roof, large country kitchen & 2 bedrooms. Fixer upper but habitable. The toilet and wash sink, connected to existing septic system, are in a small separate outbuilding and can easily be re-installed into the home. The present cottage would make a great art studio or shop, as there is lots of room to build a new home. Close to fishing, hiking, golfing and 2 ski mountains. Some Vendor Financing Available and perhaps even Rent-To-Own!
Big Discount for quick cash offer. May accept part trade for other real estate. Was listed for $120K and had offer of $110K but buyer left country due to death in family. Currently listed, so view Photos (www.mls.ca MLS #264996) and call me (Owner) directly for best deal: Cornell, Tel: 250-756-9239
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Hey Folks;
On Dec 28 I'm heading to Nicaragua for 5 days of real estate investigation then heading to Costa Rica for a 10-day paragliding adventure!
In Nicaragua I'll be traveling with Realtors and visiting undeveloped properties and several developed projects to scout them out for potential purchase. I am working with several friends and other investors - we're planning to pool our funds to purchase larger parcels of real estate, thus getting much better value on a per-acre basis. If anyone is interested in going in with us to buy tropical-paradise real estate at cheap prices, then call or email me!
Why Nicaragua? Nicaragua is now where Costa Rica was 20 years ago ...prices low and just starting to take off. Prices are waaaaay lower than Costa Rica, for the same quality of oceanfront property. And far lower than Baja or other Mexican places. For more info, check out: http://www.internationalliving.com/Countries/Nicaragua
I'll be looking for real estate in a nice area close to beautiful beaches that we can eventually develop in the future (3-5 years). Good value for money: larger parcels of undeveloped land for fewer dollars! A place where everyone can go for a vacation now, and hope to subdivide, then build on or sell at a profit in the future.
For example, perhaps a large multi-acre farm close to the ocean. Or several oceanfront lots at the very earliest stages of a new development, so that we can get in on the ground floor for cheap. Or maybe some older rental buildings in a little surfing town that can eventually be fixed up. The objective is to "stake a claim" now before prices rise as they have elsewhere, then either develop or sell for profit in the future.
Cheers; Cornell
PS: To see how nice Nicaragua's pacific coast is, visit: www.granpacifica.com and www.ranchosantana.com
NOTE: These are gorgeous, huge, master-planned developments with correspondingly large prices...I'm NOT thinking to invest here (unless someone wants to go in on a little condo with me), but rather to buy relatively undeveloped & far cheaper beachfront or oceanview property!
Cornell Pidruchney 4 Pillars Consulting Group, Vancouver Island Office Suite #230, 1-5765 Turner Road, Nanaimo, B.C. V9T 6M4 Tel: 1-866-756-9239 Fax: 250-483-5547 cornellp@4pillars.ca www.4pillars.ca
Joe Messina of Shire Investments says:
I trust that this letter finds you keeping well and that you have been enjoying this great fall weather that we have been having over the past few weeks.
In lieu of my absence, I am happy to advise all investors in Sorrento White Sands and Maples Investment ltd, should have or soon will be receiving there first quarterly interest payments by now. As too for Ft McMurray Investors, you should have also have received your second quarterly interest payments on Ft McMoney properties 2.
We have some exciting stuff coming up including a waterfront development in Sidney BC, an interest bearing capital pool with quarterly payments, some property in Hawaii, Mexico and Belize. I am happy to advise that these projects will be RRSP eligible.
We are 70% sold in Sorrento although still have room for more investors. This is cash only investment opportunity which sustains quarterly interest payments of 15%. This is truly hard to beat in the current market place and I encourage all interested parties to contact me for further information.
I can be contacted via email at joem@shireinvestments.com or on my cell at 403 681 3577. Please feel free to contact me should you have any questions or interest in any of our investments.
Profitably Yours™, Joe Messina
Shire Real Estate Investments 300, 808 4th Ave SW Calgary, AB T2P 3E8 403-681 3577
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Paul Akers says:
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Update on my earlier prognosis (August) for U.S. and Canada and world economies.......
Long deep recession, even depression for two
to five years or stagnant for 10 years. Reason for this fiasco is a shadow
economy of derivitives featuring credit default swaps valued at more than the GDPs of every economy in the world over 50 trillion dollars, some even speculate
100 trillion.
In other words this is
ponzi scheme of unfathomable debt created by brokers at the investment banking
houses in the U.S. and London, insured by AIG and others, triple AAA rated by
their buddies at Standard & Poors and supposedly backed by a REAL asset called
real estate in something called trenches or mixtures of bad real loans with
decent loans, and then dumped on poor, uninformed investors all over the world
through bank trust departments and regular brokerage arms. Now the bad news,
the reason is that every country and bank in the world does not want this debt, yet all have to deal with it. The worse news is that every country and
bank in the world is technically broke due to issuing this junk along with
regular paper currency which is debt and governments are now just covering with
daily bailouts of every bank, and
putting out daily confidence spins or lies. It is truly a "no place to hide"
senario that seems to implore actions for those that want to protect
assets.
Herein lies the myriad
problems:
1. Real estate - with rates to potentially drop another 30 percent in
the U.S. and 40 percent in Canada since you guys are just joining the panic
party, why would anyone buy a home in a major de-levered freefall of any
major asset (right now 1 in 6 homeowners in the U.S. are upside down on their mortgages), that is negative equity and it is predicted by Norial Roubini 12 to 15
million homes in foreclosure in the near future followed by car loans (already
happening) and credit card debt defaults.
2. How about renting properties during downturn and waiting for the
comeback???. In U.S., in some areas, if you could buy real 50 percent loan to
current value this might work knowing that the world will never be the same
debt carry lets all feel rich even though we are living on debt place and that
real estate will not come back in any substantial way for many years maybe your
lifetime if their are no great JOBS and that is number.
3. No debt created job
wealth where every mom and pop could be an entepeneur.....a tougher more
skeptical world where people save their money and do not take on debt because
their job does not pay them as well anymore and in many cases they are lucky
just to have one, a world that has to live with socialized banks and an
enormous debts of the shadow economy to pay back and then in the U.S. and other countries figuring out how to pay for all the
promised social programs, in Canada healthcare and in the U.S. social security, medicare, etc..and without a tax base due to limited job growth and in
otherwords ,no jobs in an economy with no bubble monopoly money to fund the fun
and make us all feel rich.
4. What to do? In short term buy some gold for the
worse outcome and take ownership of it and put it in a safety deposit box. Secondly, watch the ted spread or libor which shows you when banks would be
willing to lend to each other. This is at an all time high and is reflective
of where we are heading and a truer read for the future of economies at this
time. It is saying depression and a long one ...read a fantastic website
called Naked Capitalism and read every blog and article on that site and you
will become educated daily. Also read anyting by Norial Roubini, the economist
out of new york university. He has called this disaster step by step
since 06 and been right on everything including last weeks run on the hedge
funds. Next, the savy people are going to need to know and understand the
words credit default swap(cds) and libor / ted (the interest spead that
banks lend to each other on three month paper. Finally, we have to determine whether we are going to
continue to be in a major deleveraging environment
(deflation) or a hyperinflationary one. This is crucial because it will
determine where you place your investment bets. My view here is that
deflation is going to continue with unemployment rising to a real 10 to 15
percent in the U.S. and less in Canada. Investments under this senario are
real assets you want to live in and can do so without bank leveraging, in
other words, own free and clear, like food shelter and clothing and some gold. Also pay off debts and simplify lifestyle ....do not overpay for decreasing
large assets like home or car these will get cheaper and cheaper as people need
your soon to be worthless currency and that brings me to inflation or
hyperinflation. If economies seem to be turning around then watch for the kickback
from a the next bubble CURRENCY ITSELF. In this senario it is good to be in
gold or real commodities like oil or gas or possibly even wheat and if you have
those as hedges against currencies worth less each day you can then leverage
things like a house or car and pay it back with cheaper dollars but only if you
have protective leverage in gold or valuable commodities as hedges against
inflation. This is going to be a life altering, slowly unfolding, event with
possible frequent mini panics as we have already seen in Russia (stockmarket
closed for the rest of this week and down 80 percent for the year) or iceland
currency now worthless and whole country asking for a bailout from of all
people, Russia or some English tourists in Germany yesterday who could not use
their english bank credit card to buy anything or the money market u.s. panic
of three weeks ago or japan last night that lost 10 percent of its stock market
value. It is the second largest economy in the world. Or brazil where
markets have shut down two days in a row. Or Jakarta that closed their market
yesterday. Do we see a trend here? The call is deflation or inflation
and a new world that has created over 100 trillion dollars in fake derivitives
that are mixed in with the other stuff (ever wonder how houses could sale for
20 million and up and 49,000 people in the U.S. were,until recently, worth over 50 million and
controlled over 90 percent of all the worth in the U.S. and most of them lived
in the east coast of the U.S. and, you guessed it, worked on wall street (one
good event here is that many of these psudo millionaires are now broke
believing in their own game and some like Abe Greenberg of AIG lost all his 4
billion dollars of networth). Well, the ponzi scheme they created is over and
outed, but we are left with the problem and it will be a long hard pullback for
everyone and a time to be generous to our fellow man who though he was a pig at
the trough that wallstreet created he did not, in most cases, have any idea
what was really going on. All he knew was that jobs were plentiful and the markets and real estate
seemed to always be good investments. Lastly, there is the posibility that
governments can keep both drastic senarios from getting out of hand and in that
case we have stagflation where we will all feel poorer all the time until someone figures out another bubble scam
that enough people will buy into and that govts. will not shut down or socialize.
Peace and God Bless
everyone of us as we enter a brave new future.....paul
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