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January 2010
 Published monthly by United Farmers Agents Association, aka UFAA, Chapter 15 Eastern Oklahoma.Chapter 15. The chapter meets the first Wednesday of each month.
Next Chapter 15 Member Meeting: Wednesday, January 6th 11:30 AM 
 
 
 
 
 
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Chapter 15 will meet in the upstairs meeting room of the Silver Flame Restaurant located at the S/W corner of 61st & Sheridan, Tulsa. A fixed cost of the meals @ $12.50 per person includes meal, drink, tax, gratuity. Price also includes Tabouli, Hummus Tahini, salad, baked potato, fries or vegetables and bread. We'll have a choice of 5 lunch entrees.
Non member agents welcome.
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happy new year 2010
Band member FIG Float 2010Farmer's Float honoring marching bands  leads 2010 Rose Parade
The 121st Rose Parade took place on Friday, January 1, 2010 at (8:00 a.m. PST 10 a.m. CST) featuring spirited marching bands from throughout the nation, majestic floral floats, and high-stepping equestrian units.

This year's theme- "A Cut Above the Rest"
  Farmers' 2010 Tournament of Roses Parade entry shown at right, "A Salute to the Bands," was the lead float in the Parade line up. The float was surrounded by the "Farmers Insurance Band" - members of the Riverside Community College Marching Band who will also perform as part of the televised opening ceremony. This is Farmer's 51st year to have a parade float entry.
laughing graphic  Cute or Blooper?
NBC's Al Roker and Nancy O'Dell reunited for the ninth year to co-host NBC's live, high-definition coverage of the "121st Tournament of Roses Parade. It was rather cute or appropriate, as the case may be, when Al Roker turned and saw the Farmers 60' tall float towering above their elevated NBC press box. Seemingly surprised at the size of the band member with horn in mouth, Roker commented on air- Oh, wow! "Talk about blowing your own horn."
OOPS...?
Did we miss a great opportunity to place a second float in this years parade or have Farmer's 2010 entry sponsored by 21st Century being this year was the one hundred and 21st Tournament of Roses Parade? But, 21st Century is no stranger to the Tournament of Roses Parade. Like Farmers, 20th Century Insurance Company (previous name) has won several parade awards and trophies over the years. 20th Century won the Judge's Special Trophy in 2000 but, it was won under the name of 21st Century Insurance as the company used their float and the great media exposure of the Rose Parade to announce to viewers their name change from 20th to 21st Century Insurance.
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Letters to the Editor

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The five articles below are based on the
lessons  presented in this 4 min. video from

Business Week Magazine. Please, View it first. 
Jim Collins Author "Good to Great"
 A MUST VIEW 4balls flashing (attention0 Video  4balls flashing (attention0 
The following articles may not make sense w/o viewing this great video first. It's only 4 minutes.
 
Good to Great- How the Mighty Fall: A Primer on the Warning Signs
The author, Jim Collins, of Good to Great, video on how to spot the subtle signs that your successful company is actually on course to sputter-and how to reverse the slide before it's too late. Depending on your perspective, this 4 minute BusinessWeek Magazine video may or may not relate to the future of your business. But, you may want to view it more than once to grasp all 5 stages.

About the Author, Jim Collins
He makes the point that great companies can fall "even if engaged in energetic and ambitious activity" and notes that such was the case with 10 of the 11 failed corporations. The exception being A&P.

"Companies can recover from stage 4. They cannot come back from stage 5."
These companies found Stage 5. A few re-emerged owned by other corporations-

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Shaking handsVideo Lesson Stage 1: "Outrageous Corporate Arrogance that
inflicts suffering upon the innocent"

CAPTIVE AGENTS, THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE
submitted by the Board of the National Association of American Family Agents.
(NAAFA) www.NAAFA.com]

What if you decided to start your own business? You find a product you feel you can really market. You invest thousands of dollars and years of hard work into establishing a successful business which includes scores of faithful returning customers. Things begin to look like maybe you are finally making it as a successful business owner. You are established and respected in the community. You own the building your business is in. Things are really looking up. But suddenly, with one fell swoop, it is all taken away from you. Someone bigger and more powerful than yourself decided your business was theirs. You are out with essentially nothing, including your reputation. Sound familiar?

This is the plight of the captive insurance agent today. Captive agents are controlled like employees but claimed by captive insurance companies as independent contractors. Captive agents are often told how to sell, what hours they must be open, when and when they cannot take a vacation. They are required to attend meetings of questionable importance. They're given sales quotas that are often beyond the realm of possibility because the captive insurance company controls the rates. They are asked to submit endless progress reports and are reprimanded and threatened if these reports are not submitted in a timely manner. Agents are told who they can and cannot hire. Often captive insurance companies provide phone systems and computer systems to the agent in an effort to control and monitor the agent. Captive agents often find that even though they pay the monthly phone bill, the company has forced them to sign an agreement that their phone number belongs to the company. Advertising is often forcefully shared in order to control the agent. Agents are blamed and often find their contracts terminated for too many losses, too few 100/300 liability coverage, too low a retention rate, too low an application count, or any other of a list of about 20 "indicators" upon which agents are judged. The list of controls goes on and on.

Captive insurance companies seem to take the word captive literally. The dictionary defines captive as a "prisoner, unable to escape, forced to use or accept something." If a captive agent tries to leave a captive company to sell as a true independent agent, he is often sued and restricted by claims that the names, addresses, phone numbers, coverage and renewal dates of all his clients are "trade secrets" that belong to the insurance company. In the truly independent world, agents are truly independent. Independents own the names, addresses, and client data that they themselves brought into their agency. What exactly is the difference here? Nearly all data collected by both types of agents is readily available for public viewing. Why this same information is considered a trade secret by captive insurance companies and NOT by independent companies is very unclear and unfair.

Captive agents' contracts are often terminated because the company wants that agent's policies to give to a new agent-in-training. Or perhaps a district manager is being asked to step down, so the company simply figures out how to fire the agent and take his agency away from him and give it to the district manager. Terminating an agent's contract is quite easy because the district manager can place any production requirement he wants on the agent regardless of whether the company's rates allow an agent to sell or not. Often excuses for terminating are "manufactured." Agents have been falsely accused, defamed, and 'used as examples' in an attempt to intimidate other agents. The agent is guilty till he can prove in court that he is innocent and usually this is at a great financial cost to him...one from which he may never recover.


We believe it is time the world, including the courts and government departments such as the IRS and the EEOC begin to recognize there is a serious and unfair inconsistency evident here that is causing a great deal of stress and monetary loss to the "forgotten people," the captive agents.

Captive agents are unable to form unions to negotiate these issues (with the company) because they are not employees. Captive agents are unable to influence judges because captive insurance companies with extra deep pockets (provided by policyholder money, incidentally.) are able to influence them with various perks that are way beyond the capabilities of the average individual captive agent. Politicians heed the highly paid lobbyists hired by insurance companies. The news media seem influenced by the "credible" large corporations rather than the "small guy" because these 'generous' companies are donating hospitals and parks and other wonderful gifts to humanity.

Captive agents are a totally unrepresented, unfairly treated, forgotten segment of the American workforce. Every other group of workers in America is represented by some government entity, some union, or some trade association, but not the captive agents. If captive agents were able to quit working for the captive company that is abusing them, they could start over. Many agents are willing to make this sacrifice even late in life, but captive companies won't allow them to do this. The companies sue the agents who have gone independent for violation of non-compete (without proper proof), for computer fraud (even without realizing that the lists they've accused the agent of "stealing" off their computers were lists that the agent was required by the district manager to run for marketing purposes), for violation of trade secrets (even though what the company is calling trade secrets is data that is publicly available to anyone in the insurance business and data collected by the agent himself...not an internal employee.) We are going to make every attempt to expose the plight of captive agents. We believe that agents must be treated as the true independent contractors the IRS have labeled them. We believe the companies have misrepresented to the courts and to the IRS exactly how they treat captive agents.

We suggest agents write to your representatives both in Washington and in your state. Perhaps we are ready for federal regulation of the insurance industry as proposed by the present administration. Contact public media such as John Stossel of ABC's 20/20, Oprah, Sixty Minutes, or your local newspaper. If the public knew how our businesses are being taken away from us, there would be an outcry demanding fairness to a group of sincere agents who are trying to do an outstanding job of servicing our clients, but who are hampered by the deadly threats and controls of the captive insurance companies. This is America and our voices must be heard!

Source: Family Agents(NAAFA) www.NAAFA.com

power cords and receptaclesVideo Lesson Stage 2: "Undisciplined Pursuit of More"

Agent 1:
"I just got a call from a client who can save over $500 a year by going to 21st Century. I told her "That's Farmers you know! We bought them!" She didn't care even though she said that she loves me as an agent and that I've done a lot for her.
"

Agent 2: "So I come in to work on Monday morning and look through the headlines. What do I find? Farmers is raising our already terrible home rates AGAIN! Protector plus is up 18% is some areas, Next Gen about 20%, and Landlord about 35%. They say its to regain profitability but don't they realize how many people have already canceled and how many more are going to after this. Not to mention the amount of agents we are losing."

Agent 3: "Same old story, our own company competing against us. I lost a Foremost mobile home policy to guess who? Foremost!! The insured called AARP who wrote a new Foremost policy at a much lower premium after AARP (Hartford)."         

Agent 4: "I can't write enough business to make up for what goes out the back door, much less write more to show a gain, so after thirty five years, more than half my life given to this company, I have been placed on the DARG program and will probably be gone."

DM 1: "You may choose not to attend the mandatory life training, I am then obligated to document that and forward your failure to attend to the state and home office."

Agent 5:
"Crunch time. I've been told to have 5 P&C and 3 life in 8 days."

Agent 6: "X-CEO Marty Feinstein stated in a 1994 video sent to agents that "Farmers must become a company easy to deal with." And, it happened with the "no exception underwriting rule," "three day window of processing cancellations," "late payment penalties," "surcharging fire policies for claims," "quotes that you cant Trust" all to make the company more income on top of multiple rate hikes." Then, sugar coat it with the "Perfectly understandable and no hassle EZ pay billings, disappearing discounts, and totally unreconcilable renewals. These changes really pleased many of my clients right into the hands of competition." What are/were they thinking?"

Agent 7: "Remember, Farmers never loses PIF and premium income. When the numbers look suspect, they just buy a million or so PIF from Foremost, several hundred thousand at BW, and several million more from 21st Century and their affiliates. Agents are the loss leader on their PIF shopping sprees."

Agent 9: Foremost just shot me off a Motorcycle. I just quoted against a policy written by "Harley Davidson Insurance Division" and my rate was 62% higher than the Foremost policy written with an "affinity" discount through Harley Davidson. It is very clear Foremost is catering to the IA.

Agent 10: "There are a total of 6 Farmers agent within a quarter mile of my office, I know three of them and the rest has shown up within the last 2 years. There is nothing I can do about this. There are two IA offices within two blocks of my agency. There is another large FIG office about a mile away and about six months ago another FIG agent opened an office directly across the street from him. In this small city of 70,000 people there are 18 FIG agents."

DM 2: "As a manager of this District, the only way I know that's happening is by counting actual life sales. I can only assume an agent not consistently selling has lost their interest or knowledge in effective life sales. Therefore, we will be conducting a series of mandatory, monthly life classes to help you achieve this objective.
"

Agent 11:
"I lost another great account today in commercial due to not being competitive. The other Zurich broker came in under $1100 compared to Farmers. At what point does this stop?"

DM 3:
"This is a heads up on future Life meetings. Agents who do not have 12 life policies written by June 29th will be meeting with me every week."

Agent 12:
"I just read the memo on how they are eliminating the small portion we get from each ez-pay acct. They are "averaging" it out in 2009 per paycheck. I still find it appalling that on the independent side they pay more to agents when selling Foremost and BW policies than they do to their own captive agents."


Agent 13: "Dear God, I sure hope it gets better."

( agent comments in these articles from public Farmers Agent Network and ufaa.com public bulletin board)  Note: Critics argue that the nature of the information -- it's often submitted anonymously -- questions its validity. But anonymous doesn't necessarily mean untrue. In fact, anonymity often gets a bad rap. If you posted something positive about your boss on such sites -- and signed you name to it -- you'd be labeled a suck up. If you trashed the company and identified yourself while doing so, you'd risk losing your job. DM comments from letters to agents.

DenialVideo Lesson Stage 3:  "Denial of Risk and Peril"

Agent 1: "According to an anonymous home office person Farmers has lost 755,355 for the first 6 months. I don't know the persons name, position or telephone number but it was asked why the offering of this information and the response was, if FIG does the right thing they will need to chop off half its corporate personnel, lower management fees and lower rates. The exchanges can not survive with the PIF drain taking place. In 2008 they lost 284,000 policies." Agent: "I have to wonder why? Why would anybody run a company like this?"


Agent 2: "Is it just me or has Farmers decided to deny or hide the actual numbers? The Retention and new business tracker has not been updated since September. Is this an attempt to not disclose the actual number of policies the company is losing? I guess by not publishing the numbers in a timely manner the managers of the company will not have to take responsibility for the lack of leadership this company has demonstrated during the last quarter of the year. Has anyone else noticed that the state retention ratio has been omitted from the achievement award report? If the news is that bad instead of fixing the problem it is easier to omit the data."

Agent 3: "
Now how do I complete my Gateway without accurate numbers? My DM, DMM or SE they can't even tell me where I am now, how in the world can I tell them where I will be 6 months or 12 months from now? What are they smokin'?"

Agent 4:
Pete and CJ what you are seeing an example of is "COOKIN THE BOOKS" or WIN THE POOCH". It's like a sweater that's unraveling and you have already pulled too many threads, so you quit pulling, and pretend like it's not falling apart or there are not already holes. Just like I wrote in the FOLIO POST, Lucy they have some splainin' to do, I think they are holding on for one more bonus."

Agent 5:
Like hundreds of other FIG agents, I took the same approach. I quit and opened up an IA. Best decision I ever made. My agency is now growing faster than I ever imagined possible, my closing ratio is pushing 80% my "OOF" file drawer for 2009 holds 26 files. [The real peril has and will show increased PIF loss as each cycle of x-agents complete their non-compete period and go back after their client's they left on FIG's books.]

By MarketWatch 11/30/09

30 global financial institutions on systemic risk list- including six insurance companies-

Regulators have identified thirty international financial institutions for cross-border supervision exercises, the Financial Times reported Sunday, without directly citing sources. Six insurance companies--Axa SA , Aegon NV, Allianz SE Aviva Plc, Zurich Financial Services AG and Swiss Reinsurance Co.

Zurich Reports 53% Drop in First 6 Months

NU News MARK E. RUQUET Date:09-02-2009 Zurich Financial Services Group reported, in August, a net income drop of 53 percent for the first half of the year as the recession continued to take a toll on the company's earnings.

Zurich Reports 3Q net income rose 490%

National Underwriter 11/05/09: Zurich Financial Services Group reported third quarter net income rose 490 percent over the same period last year despite economic challenges. The Zurich, Switzerland-based insurer reported third quarter net income rose $755 million to $909 million. The company said it was the fourth consecutive quarter of quarter-on-quarter improvement since the third quarter of 2008.Denial is not a river in Egypt

National Underwriter public comments on above article.

Yes, Just Wonderful.
Meanwhile us Baltimore area folks can't find meaningful employment after being abandoned by this company - hope Mr Schiro enjoys his retirement.

Oh Great- When is some of that profit going to be passed down so that Farmers agents can get a competitive auto rate? I guess someone watched the movie "Wall Street" a little too closely.

Zurich Reports Final 9-month net income down 24%
Market Watch: 11/05/09: Zurich Financial Services Group reported that for the nine months, net income fell 24% to $2.2 billion. In general insurance, operating profit fell 3% to $2.51 billion, while gross written premiums and policy fees fell 10% to $26.32 billion. In global life, operating profit fell 6% to $1.16 billion.
Salvation
Video Lesson Stage 4:
"Grasping for Salvation with AIG acquisitions and
Game Changing Technologies"

Express/FA2:
 Is it working to the Agent's
Competitive Advantage?
 
 
PINOCCHIOOn Nov 30th, the Okla. State Office sent out a glowing email report on FA2 from an Oregon DM boasting of PIF gains in his district stating, "We are back in the game. Now it's time to get out there and go to work. See you at the top!"  We all know these will be great for business, and right now agents are enjoying the new benefits of FA2 and Express."


 The Oklahoma Voice sent the DM's email to our Oregon contacts to validate. The following responses were received.
     Pinocchio
  • "Not even close- the rate is no better than before the FA2 came out. If there is any small truth in the numbers the DM is bragging about, I would like to see the quote comparisons to verify how it is being done."
  • "To me, this is just another smoke and mirrors on the rating, and we will see as far a quote/processing time goes, if it does save staff time."
  • "I have been getting the same response from everyone so far.  I believe we have someone that is simply saying what ever is necessary, to garner favor for their own benefit. Personally, I believe this does more harm, as it does not reveal the true nature of our competitive position."
  • "I have written some auto, but the last 5 [FA2] quotes, I wasn't even close. At the last meeting, two agents went off on him. [DM] I just lost another 5 fire policies to Country Companies. Since the beginning of 2008, I have lost 127 policies. I've lost 6 commercial policies, and have had to work hard to keep long time existing commercial clients.  It has been the hardest year I have ever had in 20 plus years. I think a lot of smoke was being blown."
  • "FA2 has been a complete disaster here in Oregon. The rates are not better than they were before - just unexplainable. For instance I just quoted three vehicles for two 50+ year olds with clean records and retired.The coverage was liability only for all three cars.  You would think the rate would be the same on each vehicle, right?  car 1  1995 Toyota Corolla $222.30   car 2 1995 Toyota Tacoma  $154.20   car 3 1988 Geo   $90.00. Although, the rates look good, combined, how do you explain the vast difference between cars? Agents are reporting the most bazaar rates from $500.00 for a clean driver to $154 for a DUI and a suspended license.
  • "I swear someone on the other end of this system is throwing darts at a rate chart."
We thank our Oregon member participants for their experience and perspective on this issue.
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Treaties seem to be ignored: It's a win/win for Farmers

Agent 1: No one is more frustrated than I am over the purchase of 21st Century which competes directly against the agency force. But I have to tell you that in my conversations with FGI they are quite proud of their investment. They stated they have made approximately $939,000,000 on their investment so far and have over 2,960,000 PIF.

There is supposed to be a treaty in place to keep 21st Century from taking policies from Farmers but it appears that some 21st sales individuals are doing anything and everything to pad their commissions. In my humble opinion they are not going to back down as a matter of fact, a statement was made that for every policy 21st Century takes from the agency force its one less policy they have to pay contract value on. So not only is 21st Century making them a ton of money, they are happy it is reducing their agency contract value liability.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this was very well thought out. You're not going to see the board of governors complaining as it is a very smart investment strategy that makes them money and reduces their liability at the same time.

For Sale
Agent 2: I have decided to leave as an agent. My contract value has dwindled over the years and it becomes apparent Farmers Agents have three choices: 1. Go IA and start over. 2. Dry up with continued PIF run off or 3. Sell out. Tulsa Area Farmers Agency for sale. contact ufaa08-agency4sale@yahoo.com if you have an interest.
Capitulation, irrelevance, death Video Lesson Stage 5:
"Capitulation
to Irrelevance or Death"

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Contact Owner: Zurich Financial Services - for inquiries concerning the management company.

Contact Owner: The Farmers Policyholder Legal Holdings Representative regarding any or all of the individual companies.

Note:
We will furnish outstanding agent contract values to be included (at your option) in all offers for purchase as there is no corporate/guarantee account set up to compensate Exclusive Agents.

"You can come back from within stage 4 but, you cannot come back from stage 5."  
-Jim Collins, Author "Good to Great."
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What Employees are Saying
about their jobs 


 Click here-  Farmers Employees (includes BW and Foremost)
Score: Love their Job 42   Hate it 143

Click here- 21st Century Employees
Score: Love their job 6   Hate it 35
 The comments are interesting and educational.

WARNING- Due to recent stress of recent lay-offs, some have used language that is not appropriate.

Note: Critics argue that the nature of the information -- it's often submitted anonymously -- questions its validity. But anonymous doesn't necessarily mean untrue. In fact, anonymity often gets a bad rap. If you posted something positive about your boss on such sites -- and signed your name to it -- you'd be labeled a suck up. If you trashed the company and identified yourself while doing so, you'd risk losing your job.
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Dear Okla. Voice:

As you know, Farmers has gained another channel called 21st Century DIRECT to blend with their Independent and Exclusive channels.

While  watching Cops on TV on Sunday evening, commercials on Tru-TV featured 21st Century ads touting savings of $300 on auto insurance with more savings over Allstate and Progressive.

As a Farmers Agent, like you, losing clients to nearly all other competition, I called the 1-800# above just to see if our newest Farmer's Family member would quote my autos. The call went something like this-

21st: Can I help you?
Me: Yes, I want to get an auto quote.
21st: Your first name?
Me: Wait, don't you want to know if I have current insurance? Everyone else does.
21st: Okay, who is your current insurance company?
Me: Farmers Insurance and I am the agent, A Farmers Family Agent for over 24 years. Do you sell direct to Farmers policyholders?
21st: Sure, What is your first name.
Me: You know, Farmers now owns 21st Century ... she interrupts..
21st:
: "Yes, I know."
Me:  "And, you will still quote and sell direct to Farmer's clients?"
21st: "Sure, and your first name?"

Sorry, I guess I got a little upset and went off on her and she hung up. Don't believe me, give it a try for yourself at 1-800-709-4923
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              Dear Opower cords and receptaclesklahoma Voice,

Hey welcome to The Farmers Way.... I got a quote for auto and fire from 21st Century, I could save over $1,000 a year if I switch. Their fire policy is All Risk! I've been a Farmers agent since 1984 and am really at a loss as to what leaders are doing. IF I didn't know any better I'd think they were trying to put us out of business.


Thanks for writing. Now, the the rest of you call for a quote and write the Oklahoma Voice an email and let us know your quote experience with the Farmers Family of 21st Century by clicking on the email address of -Editor 
 


The Three Channel Overview

Today, when YOU write a 21st Century client with Farmers, you are penalized & paid only 1/2 of the commission for life of the policy. If 21st or Foremost takes your policies DIRECT or through an IA, there is no charge/pay between the gaining or losing agent. The agent contributors above make a good point-

 

Now, you know what channel is getting screwed as FIG Agents are now reporting IAs are soliciting Farmers Clients with 21st Century/Foremost Products as complaints fall on deaf ears while Exclusive Agent PIF continues to fall. We are suppose to get leads from 21st Century. Could it be that we are becoming the new "Lead Center"  for the other channels?  -Ed


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By Kim Komando

MICROSOFT TO PATCH CRITICAL VULNERABILITIES On Dec 8
Microsoft will release its security updates for December. Six updates will patch 12 flaws. Windows, Internet Explorer and Office will all be receiving patches. Three of the patches are rated critical. The vulnerabilities they fix allow remote code execution. Included will be a fix for a zero-day vulnerability in Internet Explorer disclosed last month. Microsoft will also release an updated Malicious Software Removal Tool. Don't forget to install these patches promptly!

WILL OFFICE 2003 WORK WITH WINDOWS 7?

Marty wrote in from Winter Park, FL, where he tunes in on WDBO 580 AM. He's planning on upgrading to Windows 7. But he's worried that his Office 2003 software won't run.
Microsoft says that virtually all programs that work in Vista will work in Windows 7. Incidentally, the same holds true for gadgets. So, yes, Marty, Office 2003 should be fine.
There have been reports of installation problems. Some have been unable to install it from the CD. There's a simple work-around, though. You can copy the CD to your hard drive. You can then launch the installation program from the hard drive.
To copy the CD to your computer, open it in Windows Explorer. Press Ctrl+A to select all of the files and folders on the disc. Then, drag and drop them to your hard drive. This may take a while, so be patient.
When you're done, look for the setup file. It should be called Setup.exe. Double-click it to start the installation process. After you install the software, be sure to run Windows Update. It will install the latest patches for Office. Otherwise, you're putting your machine in danger.
Now, Office 2003 has left mainstream support. Fortunately, you will continue to receive security updates. But you'll need a new version, eventually. Microsoft plans Office 2010 next year.
If you don't want to pay, consider OpenOffice. Like Office, it is a full-fledged office suite. And it's free. It doesn't include an e-mail program or calendar, though. You can download Thunderbird for e-mail and Sunbird for your calendar. They're free, too.
Have more questions about Windows 7? I have answers!

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New Oklahoma Traffic Laws
Effective Nov. 1st

New Left Lane Law: Ticket $206
Police car

The law says drivers going under the speed limit must stay out of the left lane. That lane is only meant for passing and turning left.

A couple of other laws trooper say many drivers may not know about are people not using their turn signals and also people who don't move over to the far lane when an officer has pulled someone over on the side of the road. Both of those violations could also cost you more than $200.

power cords and receptacles 12/7/09- After laying off 343 since August, Farmers Insurance announced today they will lay off an additional 200 by end of 2009. The cuts will come from Farmers' recently acquired 21st Century Insurance division.
  UFAA Members & Guests Attend UFAA Chapter 15 Christmas Party

xmas party pic 2009
All arrived bearing gifts for the Chinese Gift Exchange a.k.a. Dirty Santa, where numbers are drawn and gift is chosen from previous person's selection or from the gift table.

The UFAA Chapter 15 Christmas Party was held Dec. 12th at the renowned Silver Flame Steakhouse in southeast Tulsa. Each full time agent UFAA Member was handed a new $50 bill plus, all arrivals were given choices of chapter complementary gifts.

Throughout the evening, additional door prizes were awarded by drawing. Our sincere thanks to all who attended including our UFAA National Board Member VIPs- V.P. Mike Ward and UFAA National Historian, Chuck Simpson, Kansas City.

We're already there!  While you ask, "Where are we going?"

Zurich named Direct Marketer of the Year by the Direct Marketing Association.

  Chapter 15 Election Results-2010
Agents Helping Agents.newPres.- Mike Gately
gatelymike@aol.com
V. Pres.- Glen Johnson
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Secretary- Mike Glass mglassins@tulsacoxmail.com
Treasurer- Terry Wilson
Posted 01/2010 issue of Okla. Voice
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Compatibility Issues Across Dashboard,
Express & U of F, IE6 & W2K Systems


 The new Personal Insurance Express supports both Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Explorer 7, as is laid out in the AIMS technology specifications and PC Specs 11/07 on Dashboard

As you probably already know, Microsoft has stopped supporting Windows 2000 (W2K). Currently, the Dashboard will still work with W2K & Internet Explorer 6 (IE 6), however as new applications get implemented, the compatibility issues will begin. In particular, the Farmers Auto 2.0 course, and NextGen Homeowners courses within the University of Farmers Online will cause Internet Explorer 6 (W2K) to lock up when clicking on the 'Next' button to proceed to the next slide within the module. In Express, the drop-down boxes do not fully expand regardless of the browser. However, users of Internet Explorer 7 will be able to hover over the content of the drop-down box which will activate a "tool-tip" which will show the full description of whatever the user is hovering over. This [tool-tip] option is not available in Internet Explorer 6.

Ultimately, it would be more efficient and cost effective to purchase a new PC. This being said, users with Windows 2000 can upgrade to Windows XP, the only problem is that the cost in upgrading the RAM, as well as the OS software will cost as much as purchasing a brand-new PC.

Farmers is currently working on the compatibility issues with Windows 7 and the Agency Dashboard. I have also heard that development is also looking at Firefox compatibility. As of about a month and a half ago, development has resolved the compatibility issues with Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP and Vista.

Windows 7 may cause some challenges when it comes to compatibility with hardware (printers, scanners, etc.). Device drivers for Windows 7 are not widely available by every manufacturer and tend to be available on a "device-by-device" basis. In addition, older devices may not have a Windows 7 driver available by the manufacturer, so this is also something that the agents will need to keep in mind.

Best Regards,

John
ServicePoint®

Enhancements to the dropdown views in Express will allow easy viewing of all dropdown menu items with the upgrade to Internet Explorer 7 (IE7). Enhancement coming February 2010.

We cannot find any comments where Farmers had stated that many agents will need to completely update or buy new systems. Was that a ploy to not create an agent uproar in the field?  However, 1-800 NET-USER has a new phone option- Direct to Dell New Sales Dept. With more than 50 million using Firefox, it could really be a benefit to agents if Farmers would allow it.  The Oklahoma Voice is created with Firefox- a free web browser. -Ed

 Univ. of Oregon Ducks vs. Ohio State Buckeyes in the 2009 Rose Bowl 
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Oregon Insurance Dept.
Fines Farmers $10,000


By Brent Hunsberger, The Oregonian
December 03, 2009, 1:51PM

[Nearly a month before to the Oregon Du
cks head to the Rose Bowl,] the Oregon Insurance Division announces it has fined Farmers Insurance Co. of Oregon $10,000 for altering consumers' insurance premiums based on their credit scores. The penalty, handed down late last month, stems from Farmers' three-year practice of using a consumer's credit history to re-rate their auto and homeowners' insurance policies when they renewed. In more than 1,000 cases, the re-ratings resulted in higher premiums, the state's final order says.

Oregon law allows insurers to use credit scores as part of its criteria for refusing initial coverage or determine your rate. But it bars insurers from using credit history or an insurance score at renewal to re-rate a personal insurance policy, unless the consumer asks. Farmers' spokesman Jerry Davies said via e-mail that a programming change in early 2006 "caused an undetected system issue. Unfortunately, the system issue caused our mechanical system to stop working correctly.

The case stems from a consumer complaint the division received in July 2008 about poor service. In the process of investigating, state officials discovered Farmers' practice, said Ron Fredrickson, manager of the division's consumer advocacy team.  The improper reratings took place between January 2006 and Feb. 13, 2009 on 8,385 instances, state officials said. In 1,050 of those cases, the re-rating resulted in an increase in premiums.

Farmers has refunded consumers a total of $64,840, division spokeswoman Cheryl Martinis said. Customers with policies still in force were issued credits, Davies said. Farmers also is making changes to its computer system, state officials say.


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Oregon Ducks 2Texas, North Dakota, California and now Oregon. Just when does the computer programming excuses go away? Inquiring minds want to know, according to that last paragraph, were nearly $65,000 in checks written "to x-Farmers clients" while credits were issued to those still in force? How about charge backs to Oregon agents losing policies having no control over this mis-rating issue? Agents are complaining of rates across our territories. Does mis-rating expand, perhaps, territory wide?


If companies fail to protect agent's commissions, even on internal errors then, agency commission losses must become protected by state regulators and companies penalized in addition to the state fines to reimburse agents 3 years commissions on corporate errors causing PIF run-off while prohibiting agent charge backs on state mandated refunds issued to in-force clients.

Otherwise, being victimized twice, agents just end up SUBSIDIZING state levied fines as companies recoup commissions already paid with agent charge backs on mandated refunds. -Ed


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P.S. The Oklahoma Voice expresses our sorrow over the Oregon Ducks loss to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl Game. However, it was one of the best hard fought college games of the  season. Both the Buckeyes and Ducks did a great job and the Ducks remain the PAC 10 Champs. Now, the Duck fans understand the agony of defeat as OU fans did when the Ducks beat us last year for the Championship. -Ed
Okla Blizzard xmas eveChristmas Weekend Blizzard `09
Score: Oklahoma City 14   Duluth, Minnesota 11

OKC beat out Duluth in the Christmas Weekend blizzard that proceeded across the mid west plains before heading to the northern states. Duluth reported 11 inches of snow fall from the winter storm while OKC received 14 inches.


In Oklahoma, it started with rain in the early hours of Christmas eve then, turning to several hours of sleet. As temps dropped, the sleet changed to snow as winds howled overnight up to 60 MPH. The governor declared a state of emergency in all 77 Oklahoma Counties as ice and deep snow drifts began to accumulate closing portions of major state  and inter-state highways. The Oklahoma National Guard was activated to patrol highways and turnpikes for stranded motorists.

The H. E. Bailey Turnpike was closed from the Texas line to OKC along with the Turner Turnpike from OKC to Tulsa. Later in the day, the Will Rogers Pike from Tulsa to the Missouri line was also closed while hundreds of motorists were stranded in ice and snow across the state. A triple fatality auto accident occurred in the early hours of the blizzard west of Tulsa as a large H3 Hummer allegedly crossed the center line and hit a family in a Cavalier head on killing all in the smaller vehicle. An additional storm death was reported 4 days later as a snow plow driver southwest of OKC driver discovered a man in a vehicle totally covered in a 6' snow drift. On the upside, Oklahoma had a White Christmas but, few could travel within the state.
What's in a Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)?

2  F  M    Z  U  6  2  E    0  2  Z    8  7  8  5  9  0


If you have been an agent or CSR for any time at all, you have written dozens to perhaps thousands of VIN numbers over your career. Just exactly what is a VIN? 

A VIN number is a 17-character alphanumeric identifier or a manufacturer's serial number. Each character in the VIN number has a significant meaning. Together, they create a number that tells everything about the vehicle and its unique history.

How to Decode a VIN- When decoded, the VIN tells the country and year of manufacture; make, model and serial number; assembly plant; and in some cases it even identifies equipment specifications. The system goes something like this: sequence for characters is first A to Z, then 1 to 9, and last 0. The letters "I", "O" and "Q" are typically omitted from system so as not to be confused with numbers 1 and 0.

The vehicle identification number is divided into four parts:

1. World Manufacturer's Identification (WMI - three characters)- The first character in the WMI sequence represents the country where the vehicle was manufactured. Countries like the United States (1 or 4), Canada (2) and Mexico (3) are represented by numbers while other countries such as Germany (W), Italy (Z) and Japan (J) are represented by letters.The second character refers to the manufacturer. The characters can be either letters or numbers. For example: Jaguar (A), Dodge (B), Chrysler (C), Jeep (J), Buick (4), Cadillac (6) or Saturn (8).The third character represents the vehicle type or manufacturing division.

2. Vehicle Description Section (VDS - five characters)-
The vehicle description section consists of five characters (the 4th to 8th characters) which identify everything from the body style, engine type, and braking system to model, series, restraint system, etc.

3. The 9th character is a VIN accuracy check digit which verifies the previous VIN numbers. It is determined by carrying out a mathematical computation developed by the Department of Transportation (DOT). The 10th character or digit is the model year while the 11th letter is the manufacturing plant.

4. Serial Number- The 12th to 17th characters are the actual serial number of the vehicle-these last 6 digits make the vehicle unique (think of DNA). It can also help to identify whether the vehicle was the first, the hundredth, or the last vehicle off the manufacturer's assembly line. This is valuable information for collectors.

So, the next time you see that long number printed on your registration papers or stamped across your dashboard, you'll know how to decode it. This will give you a better understanding of where your unique vehicle actually came from!

Here are the codes for the VIN 10th letter or digit that determines the vehicle model year.

VIN Plate
Code  Year
Code  Year
Code  Year
Code Year                                                    
A =1980
L = 1990
Y = 2000
A = 2010
B = 1981
M = 1991
1 = 2001
B = 2011
C = 1982
N = 1992
2 = 2002
C = 2012 
D = 1983
P = 1993
3 = 2003
D = 2013
E = 1984
R = 1994
4 = 2004
E = 2014
F = 1985
S = 1995
5 = 2005
F = 2015
G = 1986
T= 1996
6 = 2006
G = 2016
H = 1987
V = 1997
7 = 2007
H = 2017
J = 1988
W = 1998
8 = 2008
J = 2018
K = 1989
X = 1999
9 = 2009
K = 2019
Agent group expects a flurry of filings from improperly classified workers.
Allstate 'independent contractor agents turn to IRS to clarify their status.
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October 21, 2009,   GULFPORT, MS.

For most, Independence Day occurs on July 4. For Allstate agents who believe they've been misclassified as 'independent contractors,' the hope is that day will  come much sooner as dozens, if not hundreds, of Allstate agents file IRS Form SS-8 to determine whether they are independent contractors as Allstate proclaims, or have been misclassified all along.

The filings come on the heels of a recent petition drive started by an unidentified Allstate agent. The National Association of Allstate Agents (NAPAA)-a non-profit group representing the rights of more than 13,000 Allstate agents-published the petition in its most recent quarterly magazine. In the same publication, the group also published a hypothetical, example of the IRS Form SS-8.

"We prepared this hypothetical example based on the information we gathered from Allstate agents over a period of several years," said Jim Fish, NAPAA's executive director. "We believe that agents are being deliberately misclassified and we intend to expose this injustice in any way we can."

In 2000, Allstate Insurance converted the majority of its sales force from employee to independent contractor status. With the change in status, many of those agents anticipated liberation from the requirements of being an Allstate employee. Now, almost a decade later, Allstate agents are still waiting for their independence, hence the interest expressed by a number of Allstate agents in filing an IRS Form SS-8.
 
"We anticipate the IRS and President Obama will receive thousands of petitions, said Fish, "When the SS-8 forms are filed, we expect that Allstate's behavior will be heavily scrutinized by the IRS. If nothing else, this intense scrutiny may change Allstate's behavior for the better."

Allstate agents certainly aren't the first independent contractors to be treated like employees without the accompanying benefits. In 2007, after filing a class action lawsuit demanding parity with employee drivers, current and former FedEx independent contractor drivers were elated when Judge Robert Miller of the U.S. District Court in Northern Indiana certified them as a class. This action has opened the door to similar cases involving independent contractors who are treated like employees.

"It was reported that the IRS plans to audit more than 6,000 companies for employment tax issues. We're hoping the volume of Allstate agents filing SS-8 forms and the simmering discontent among agents over the misclassification issue will help push Allstate to the top of the IRS list, so we can finally resolve this long-standing problem," added Fish. For more information on the National Association of Professional Allstate Agents, you can visit their Web site at
www.napaausa.org.

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Farmers Introduces Electronic
Signature System at HelpPoint

LOS ANGELES, Dec. 16, 2009 -- Farmers Insurance Group of Companies® has introduced eZsign, a new claims settlement option for their customers with total loss claims. It is currently approved in the states of Washington, Oklahoma, and Illinois. Farmers is anxiously awaiting approval in all other states.

"Previously a customer who had reached settlement would have to wait for documents to arrive in the mail, and then sign and return those documents for payment to be issued," stated Odom Wu, Director of Farmers Strategic Initiatives. "Now Farmers, with the agreement of the Washington, Oklahoma, and Illinois Departments of Motor Vehicles, can give customers the option to receive the documents via email, sign them online using their mouse, and return them instantly to expedite payment. This initiative is consistent with Farmers' commitment to innovation, and keeps Farmers on the cutting edge in providing customers the best claims experience possible. Farmers is the first in the insurance claims industry to accomplish this for its customers," Wu continued.

"This is a win-win situation," stated Bryan Murphy, Farmers Insurance Executive Vice President and Chief Claims Officer. "This is the future. The customer wins with speed, convenience and lower cost. The company wins with more rate competitiveness. Farmers is ready to implement eZsign in all states as soon as the states understand customer wants and understand the benefits that come with the metadata of an electronic signature."

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Two more short but great articles by Jim Collins author of "Good to Great" on our home page this month-

  • The Dynamics of Leadership-Team Behavior- How managers interact says a lot about the state of a company...
  • Getting the Right People in Key Seats- The specifics can vary, even within companies, but our research delivered six important traits that identify "the right people"
  • More below on the Chapter 15 Home Page.  Click link above.
  • Serious Security Flaws in Adobe Reader ver. 8 & 9 Update fix will not be released until Jan 12. Recommended actions...
  • Also, COMPROMISED ADS EXPLOIT READER FLAWS-Criminals have been taking advantage of a flaw in OpenX. This software is used to place ads on popular sites. Those who viewed the online ads were redirected to a site in China....
  • California Judge Rules State Farm Agencies are not franchises...
  • Let me see if I understand this...
  • Zurich's 2010 CEO selection down to four execs...
  • Just in case you need a laugh...
  • State Farm to remain in Florida while dumping 125k policies...
  • OKLA. Auto & Home Rate Comparison Charts updated 12/09...
  • Suspicious Oklahoma Market Conduct Exam Reports on Farmers...
 
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