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Hi all,
I could not resist sending you through the letters which were sent to the ABC last night after my interview with John Nutting regarding the measles 'outbreak' in Beerwah. You have all inspired me and hopefully, after reading these letters, others will also be inspired to write in - borrowing from your words or finding words of their own.
In addition, I have been thinking (all night actually) about the ABC charter and how it's been manipulated by misinformation such as the Pulse section of ABC Health and Wellbeing (a misnomer if there ever was one!) as evidenced by the page by Peter Lavelle - http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/stories/2008/07/17/2306469.htm. If someone out there has a few hours they can spare over the next couple of weeks to help me in researching and filing a complaint against the ABC for their biased reporting and the way in which their web site is used to push the pharmaceutical agenda, I would be really grateful. Call me on 02 6687 1699 or email me directly at meryl@avn.org.au.
In the meantime, please keep those letters coming in to the John Nutting program by writing to nutting.toby@abc.net.au. Also, add me to the bcc field (meryl@avn.org.au) or forward the email to me afterwards - I can always use more inspiration!
All the best,
Meryl
Dear Toby, thank you for your show.
Re the immunisation discussion ------ many years ago my daughter was immunised with the MMR vaccination --- resulting in a case of measles, then encephalitis/meningitis ---- leaving her with brain damage.
Twenty five years later (and lots of therapy) she married and had a baby , the doctors assured her (against my advice) that it could never happen again and this baby "should" be vaccinated ( yes they received financial incentive for it!) ----------- so sadly the same thing happened again.
Since then she has had two more children --- not immunised and perfectly bright, healthy and happy.
Hope this is of some interest to you Toby.
Thank you sincerely,
Dear Mr Nutting,
I just wanted to let you know that I have two beautifully healthy & happy unvaccinated children and that the decision not to vaccinate them was THE MOST informed decision of my life. I can honestly say that I spent more time researching this particular topic than anything else I have ever done. In my experience, if you ask the parents of vaccinated children "why are your children vaccinated?" you are often met with a variety of answers along the lines of "my doctor told me to", "everyone does it, I didn't have a choice" and "the government pays me to do it". Conscientious objection is by its very nature diametrically opposed to this line of (non)thinking. When I have had similar discussions with parents of unvaccinated children it is obvious that their decision is borne out of research, reading and genuine investigation. Does anyone even question why the most unvaccinated demographic is the children of wealthy, well educated parents. It is ridiculous to imply that this group is not well informed in their decision making on this matter. I welcome further discussion on this matter but would urge a greater degree of balance with regards to "expert opinion" in the future. The lack of it to date is greatly disappointing from the national broadcaster.
Yours Sincerely
Mr. Nutting~
My name is _____, and I just wanted to let you know that I felt the story on vaccinations with Peter Lavelle was incredibly biased, and that I thought journalism was supposed to look at both sides of the story.
I happen to be a very well educated mother, and I have the absolute best interest in mind for my children. After doing immense amounts of research, after going to seminars and talking with many doctors and reading multiple books, my husband and I have decided not to vaccinate our children - and I can tell you without a doubt, that my children are far healthier than any vaccinated child we know.
I find that articles and shows on tv that portray parents who don't vaccinate as parasites are incredibly misinformed, and many times, they try to get people to vaccinate their children using fear instead of knowledge.
Knowledge is power, Mr. Nutting, and I feel that the other side of this story should be aired. Why not do a story on why some parents feel that vaccines are too dangerous for their children? Why not do a story that states all of the ingredients in vaccines, and the studies on those ingredients claiming that they are safe (they are not by the way). Why not do the story based on truth, and references to the truth.
I understand that people want to believe that vaccinations are safe. I understand that it is hard to challenge the status quo and to do something different, but I once heard a quote...and it's "Tell a lie long enough and loud enough and people start to believe it." Why is it that the parents that don't vaccinate seem to be the ones that need to PROOVE that vaccines aren't safe? Shouldn't the doctors and the vaccine manufacturers PROOVE that they are safe to US? And in my opinion, and in millions of other people's opinions, they have NEVER proved that they are safe, they only keep repeating that they are with no scientific references to back that statement up.
I am not one for scare tactics. I do not make my decisions concerning my children and my family's health based on fear. I base it off of knowledge, off of concrete documented facts, and the truth is, vaccines are dangerous.
Please be open minded enough to do a story on the truth instead of fear, as I feel that much of what Peter Lavelle was stating was downright untruthful, and full of fear instead of factual knowledge.
Thank you,
"It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -Upton Sinclair
"Make conscience choices based on what you believe and your life will be a reflection of who you are."
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."- Margret Mead
"There is no single effort more radical in it's potential for saving the world than a transformation of the way we raise our children." Marianne Williamson
Dear Mr Nutt,
I am very concerned about the scaremongering that your "health expert" Peter Lavelle seems to be engaging in over the outbreak of measles in Beerwah.
My husband, daughter and I are immigrants from England (non-measles-carrying), now proudly Australian citizens, and we are also non-vaccinating parents. Our daughter is wholly unvaccinated, and having had much trouble with child-bearing, my husband and I did not come to this decision lightly. We spent many hours reading and researching the topic of vaccination, and our choice - which is what it was, still is and hopefully will remain - was made on the basis of our distrust of the issues of both safety and efficacy, although the whole concept of making a child healthy by injecting toxins into their body was also very questionable to us, and remains so.
We do not believe that vaccines have the efficacy that is claimed - indeed, my husband and I both suffered pertussis despite being vaccinated against it - and we certainly do not believe they are safe - for us, our daughter, or anyone else. We have used referenced information from the Internet (of which there is a great deal) as well as other sources, and having looked in depth at what actually goes into vaccines, we are of the opinion that safety can never be guaranteed. Looking around at the vast numbers of highly allergic children in schools, children with auto-immune disorders and children with cancer - rarely heard of when we were children - there is no way on earth you are ever going to convince us to inject our child with the cocktail of chemicals that vaccines contain, not to mention the foreign proteins and animal DNA.
My husband and I come from a generation that had measles (and mumps and rubella) as a right of passage, without any dramas or hysteria. All of our friends and relations did too. While I personally know of deaths that have occurred after administration of the MMR vaccine, I never knew anyone of my generation die from measles. In a well-nourished child, who is cared for properly, it is usually a benign illness.
I wonder how many of these poor children in Beerwah are tonight wondering whether they are going to survive measles? Given the way the media has reacted to them, they must feel rather scared. It really is totally disproportionate and predictions of dire outcomes will do nothing to reassure worried parents.
What is needed now for these people is some calm; overall what is needed is more open discussion on the whole subject of vaccination, so that parents can make informed choices in the best interests of their children: and a more balanced approach from the media rather than the hysteria and scaremongering that seems to be the order of the day in Beerwah. We need more support for organisations such as the AVN who work tirelessly to help people find the information they need to make truly knowledgeable choices on the issue. And above all, the medical profession and the media should stop victimising those parents who, like us, have turned our backs on the practice of vaccination in the sure and certain belief that to do otherwise would damage our children beyond repair. This is still a free country - let's make sure it stays that way!
Sincerely,
I'm not that dim-witted
Dear Toby,
Thank you for taking the time to do a story about the recent spate of measles infections.
I am concerned, however, that Mr Lavelle believes that parents such as myself are not having their children immunised because they do not have the ability to understand that a little bit of something in a vaccine will improve our children's health.
On the contrary, most parents I know have chosen not to vaccinate their children only after sifting through both sides of the conflicting information that surrounds vaccines - a process that requires a reasonable degree of intelligence and independent thought.
In future programs of this nature, would your ple-e-e-z-e interview people who have at least read as much as us?
There is so much scholarly and credible information available on the life-long benefits that follow natural infection with measles, as well as information on the short and long-term risks associated with the vaccine. To cover this information would provide an invaluable service to your listeners. It would be lovely not to have our intelligence insulted again by somebody as obviously ill-informed as Mr Lavelle.
Kind regards,
Hi Toby
Just writing as I have heard of your father's recent show featuring John Lavelle. I did not hear the interview myself, but the sentiment expressed by John has been relayed to me along with some of his manipulation of facts.
I feel that it is really important that the 'pro vaccination' gang are open to hearing both sides, which is seems sadly John is not. My husband and I are both health professionals who have spent years working in the mainstream medical model both in hospitals (both private and public) and private practice settings and we choose not to vaccinate. We are not the 'airy fairy' type, who believe everything to be a conspiracy theory. In fact we have found that most who choose to vaccinate are;
* Highly educated
* Spend hundreds of hours researching
* Take additional general health and wellbeing precautions to promote optimal health in their children.
One point I feel is important is that, while I may be ridiculed for choosing not to vaccinate my child, I have spent hundreds of hours researching the literature before coming to this decision. I felt the potential for harm for the majority of vaccines heavily outweigh the benefits. Most families who vaccinate their children, give it no thought at all, they just make the appointment because they have been told to do so. They have no idea of what is in these vaccines and believe that they are 100% safe and 100% effective. In fact, neither assumption is true.
Some additional points to consider:
* No randomised controlled trials have EVER been performed to assess the safety and effectiveness of Vaccines on children. This is a very important point. As you will often hear doctors say; 'I don't recommend........because there is no evidence to show that it is safe and effective". Yet for some reason vaccines are immune to this logic.
* vaccinated children get the viruses they are vaccinated against
* Pharmaceutical companies have hefty financial interests in mass vaccination
* Governments and Doctors are lobbied (and wined and dined) by pharmaceutical industries
* Many Doctors are 'educated' by Pharmaceutical reps
* Childhood chronic disease has risen correspondingly with the ever-increasing number of vaccinations on the schedule, yet due to a potentially large number of causes, vaccination is unlikely to ever be held responsible in a legal manner, despite strong evidence of links.
I think any system that seeks to offer one prescription for all children is unlikely to be well thought out, safe or effective.
Some will always choose to vaccinate, some will choose to do so selectively and some will choose to not vaccinate at all. In different circumstances all may be appropriate.
Finally on a personal note, some anecdotal (and of course unscientific) information for you. I have a fully unvaccinated 18 month old daughter. When compared to her peers she is incredibly well. She has not required a Doctors attention for any illness since birth. According to all textbooks by this stage she would have had 10 colds, several inner ear infections and more uncomfortable illness. Instead she is vital, and unlike her friends who seem to have a cold or tummy bug every fortnight, is in optimal health.
Perhaps, just perhaps it is because her immune system has been allowed to develop normally, rather than having been bombarded with an enormous number of vaccines.
I am sorry this has been a rather lengthy letter, but this is an incredibly important subject for all families and by allowing both sides to be heard in equal measure, you are facilitating not only freedom of speech, but freedom of thought, which is perhaps even more important.
Warm Regards
Hi Toby,
Where do I begin? This is such an emotion-fuelled topic. It is dangerous to form opinions based on emotions or from an entirely medical viewpoint which is generally the way. Most people will research the purchase of a car or computer more than they will vaccinations Medical practices have come and gone over the years after discovering treatments that were first thought to be beneficial to health are actually quite detrimental to health. That fact is undisputed. In my experience when dealing with the medical system and vaccinations, first ask the medical provider if he or she gets regular vaccinations and if they vaccinate their own children. You will be surprised with the answers you receive.
Secondly by vaccinating you are saying that you are smarter than the human body, that there is some type of design flaw in the humans. This is simply not the case. It has been shown in many studies for example that the measles are actually highly beneficial in kids as a marked growth spurt generally takes place soon after the virus has gone. The virus itself also builds immunity in the body naturally protecting us later in life. I can go on and on with the benefits. There is an equal number of negatives but none life threatening in this day and age.
There is so much fear and profit around Vaccinations that people clearly can not form an informed decision especially when you take into consideration the example of this latest so called measles outbreak! Media over kill as always.
I wish you could come into a chiropractor's office and observe the many cases we see of adverse reactions to vaccinations, and then you would think differently.
I hope we get to see a fair and unbiased debate or discussion on the topic from the ABC to really get the facts out there and not just the regular propaganda.
Remember Vaccinations are great until your child has an adverse reaction. Think about this last sentence carefully. Prevention is better than the cure and vaccinations prevent very little. If most of the population is vaccinated why do they care if a growing minority are not vaccinated because their protected right???
Please give this topic the unbiased exposure that is required to make people think for themselves and take responsibility for their own and their children's health and well being.
Regards,
Hello Toby,
I am writing to ask for more information to be provided fairly to viewers about the other side of vaccination.
I am passionately anti-vaccination. I have seen with my own eyes the silent damage vaccination does to families, families that had beautiful, normally developing children up until the time of vaccination. In one particular case the MMR, within a few hours "Daniel" was becoming unwell, feverish, grisly (some would say this is normal after vaccination) until it got worse and he went into convulsions. He was rushed to hospital with a "brain fever" or encephalitis (brain inflammation) which can be caused by measles.....anyway Daniel did leave hospital but his parents lost him - he is in a world of his own, no longer connecting with his parents or brother or wider family, fascinated with TV to the point that he can sit an entire day just watching the same DVD over and over, running around in circles and not able to talk. He does not eat and is regularly sick. Daniel is my nephew. This is a story I have heard so many times. Just google Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carey for one more story.
Now my own story was that against my instinct I did have my son vaccinated for the first few shots when he was a baby, something that I will regret to my dying day, and after one vaccination he was so unwell, his leg went bright red, was so swollen, he was screaming and sick - I rushed him back to the Dr who had the cheek to tell me it was nothing to do with the vaccination and to take him home with panadol. He did not even care, he'd already recorded the shots for his bonus, I don't know who he was kidding but any person could tell it was a reaction to vaccination.....I did not even know at that time there was an adverse reaction reporting process....My son was never vaccinated after that and did have a few early health challenges eg constant colds, slight asthma but with the care of a fantastic Naturopath he is extremely healthy now with a great immune system and zero signs of asthma.
My daughter who is nearly 3 (and is only 6 weeks younger than Daniel) has never had a needle pierce her skin. The only time she has seen a Dr was the day she was born. She is never sick, she is extremely healthy and extremely intelligent beyond her years, she has been raised organically and with no pharmaceutical medication, she does get colds, never had an ear infection, never had an antibiotic. She gets colds as she is supposed to but she burns them off in a day. She is at child care and has chicken pox, slap face and all other sorts of childhood diseases exposed to her but she never gets anything - her constitution is as it should be, naturally strong and healthy.
People need to know both sides of this medical procedure, they need to be informed of the ingredients of vaccinations and they need to be aware of the health risks they are subjecting their precious children to.....parents are not told the other side, they discover it after they have lost their children. Autism and autism spectrum disorders are on the rise - now the stats are 1 in 150 children will be affected - this is not genetic this is because they are being poisoned from vaccinations the day they are born, and sadly research done by various agencies have found that babies are now born toxic (I can provide data on this if required). So they are born with a toxic load and then injected with more toxins. Sadly parents put more time into researching which school their children will go to rather than what people with vested interests are injecting into their babies.
Please review a book called "Chemical Free Kids, Raising Children in a Toxic World" written by Australian Dr Sarah Lantz - the research she had done is enough to show that our children are being made sick. Children and babies should not be getting these deadly diseases, we are being slowly programmed to believe this is the "norm" and that its "genetics" not so. Another great book "The Hundred Year Lie" by Randall Fitzgerald. Another Dr to read is Dr Paula Baily-Hamilton.
Dr Isaac Golden has done the largest clinical study in Australia on vaccinations - review his book Vaccination: A Review of Risks and Alternatives. He has the stats and the data which clearly shows that disease was on the decline before the introduction of vaccinations. Interview him please!
Well I thank you for reading this email, I ask you to research this subject further - there is a lot of money to be made in vaccination.
--
In health,
Toby,
I want to comment briefly on Peter Levelle's statements during your interview.
There is no evidence that measles vaccine "effectively eliminated measles in Australia"
In fact, the incidence of measles had fallen sharply prior to 1966.
Many studies which link the rapid increase in Autism since the increase of childhood vaccinations and in particular MMR have been "discredited" to save the positions of the medical and government authorities if the truth comes out.
If the incidence of is not linked to vaccinations in general, what do you think caused the incidence to increase fifteen fold from 1966 to today, where 1 in 150 children suffer from autism.
This is a global catastrophe!
Please see the attachment above which is a report by Robert F. Kennedy jnr. based on information obtained via the Freedom of Information Act.
Best Regards,
Hi, I am a mother of 2 young girls 4yrs and 2 yrs old. I have made a conscious choice not to Vaccinate them. I made this choice by thoroughly researching both sides of the argument - a lot of reading and a lot of personal reflection on what I truly believed was best for the kids.
I find it really frustrating when this issue is constantly addressed with a biased view. I want this issue addressed fairly - I want to see both sides get equal time to discuss the pros and cons.
I often wonder how people can just write off the people who choose not to vaccinate as hippies, unformed people or ignorant people etc There are many professional, well educated people including scientists and medical doctors who are choosing not to vaccinate. This alone must get people thinking 'there must be more to this story'.
I am not asking people to not vaccinate but I would say you should look into both sides independently with no bias and then make a competent decision that you are happy with. How can this be done with the constant Fear mongering that goes on through the media. Take the measles for example - if listening to the TV and radio were all I had to go on I would think the whole population on the Sunshine Coast was in danger of being wiped out by this fatal disease! What happened to the normal childhood diseases like measles, mumps, chicken pox that we all had as kids??
There are too many things to go into in an email that contribute to poor health and therefore more severe reactions to diseases, but I will say that I know by taking responsilbilty for my families health,I will ensure that if they happen to contract measles or chicken pox etc - they will need a few days of rest in bed and then will let their bodies do the rest after all isn't that what our amazing, intricately designed bodies were built to do.
So in short - with good nutrition and and organic food and no pollutants in our immediate home environment and regular chiropractic care my family are in the best health they can be and will be able to therefore deal better with anything that may come along.
I know this is an emotionally charged issue but all I am asking for is a fair unbiased presentation of the factson both sides.
Thank you for your time
Dear Mr Nutting
I am writing to you concerning your "Measles Outbreak Interview"
As an educated woman, business professional and, above all, loving mother I thoroughly investigate all of the health choices I make for my children, I do not have trouble understanding anything about vaccinations and their benefits or side effects. I have seen first-hand the devastating effects that vaccination can have on small children and their families, I therefore have chosen to nurse my children through their illnesses rather than vaccinate them and then try to reverse any possible side effects from the vaccination itself. Please note I state possible side effects as no parent knows what the outcome will be, vaccination is currently a game of Russian Roulette and a game that I choose NOT to participate in.
Please let me make this clear, I am not anti-vaccination I am pro-safe vaccination. If I were to be presented with a way to vaccinate my children that would give them immunity without side effects such as damage to the immune system, swelling of the brain, Autism, increased childhood cancer rates or death then I would vaccinate in a heartbeat. For now I choose to build my children's immune systems with healthy food, exercise, fresh air and love in the hope that if they do contract an illness the symptoms will be lessened and the recovery will be fast.
I look forward to listening to further interviews on "our ABC" that represent the views of both parties, perhaps you would like to read more at the Generation Rescue or Australian Vaccination Network website.
Thank you for your time
ear Toby
I just received an email from Meryl Dorey from the AVN regarding a recent interview with Peter Lavelle. I have been a member of the AVN for over 8 years since my first child experienced adverse reactions to the Hep B and Whooping Cough vaccine within the first few months of her life. I found the AV to be a fantastic resource for someone like myself who was looking for answers that were outside of what the medical community were able to offer me.
It is a concern to me when I hear of a very biased interview taking place which talks of the so called benefits of vaccinations. Unfortunately the general population tends to follow the advice given out by the medical community like sheep. That is until a serious complication affects them. Even then most people do not make the connection and wake up. When my child developed serious health issues I decided to do my own research along with the help of the AVN. I discovered that there is a whole can of worms surrounding the vaccination issue. As a responsible reporting agency surely you would want your listeners to experience both sides of the argument? On a personal note and from the research that I undertook on behalf of my child I can tell you categorically that I would not touch vaccinations with a 9 foot barge pole.
I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
Kind regards
I am writing to comment on the coverage of the recent measles outbreak. It seems very one-sided and so I would like to urge you to cover all angles of the story - not just the health professionals.
It is interesting. Once you start talking about vaccinations, people start telling you their stories but it's just not a subject one opens a conversation with... as it is often a highly emotive issue. One mother from my pre-natal class had a perfectly healthy baby that started having seizures immediately following vaccination, another woman I met in a park told me her son screamed for 4 days solid after the MMR vaccine but her doctor would not record it as a vaccine reaction. A good friend had a beautiful baby prior to vaccination and now has a child with MS that requires 24 hour care - her doctor advised that she not vaccinate her other children. Another mum told me that every time he had vaccinations her son got really bad colds and flus, but she still considered it the best thing to do. And a nurse from a mental health institution told me that she thought it was about 50/50 where she worked - 50% damaged by the vaccine and 50% damaged by the disease. Another nurse in the emergency ward told me that since she has seen children so damaged by measles that she would never consider not vaccinating. When I asked her about vitamin A levels in the children that were damaged she replied that wasn't tested for - yet deficiency in vitamin A is accepted as a cause for complications in measles.
There are many voices, I urge you to share a range of them.
Kind Regards,
Hi Toby or John,
I'm quite disappointed about your interview in regards to the Measles outbreaks.
It's quite bias and doesn't give a real information about the risk of the vaccines and why some parents choose not to vaccinate (the effect of mercury poisoning and of viruses on the overall immune system of the child).
Plus vaccines aren't so effective as it's said.
When I ask people who had their children sick with for ex. whooping cough if their child was vaccinated, in the majority of the cases they were, so vaccine do not guarantee the children will not get sick.
I would suggest you contact the AVN and interview Meryl Dorey for a broader approach to Measles and vaccine.
Kind regards
DIear Toby
I have long taken an interest in the whole area of vaccination and feel that when interviewing a public figure that the picture be painted fairly. I am appalled to think that vaccination should EVER be made mandatory considering the content of it and that schools and teaching organisations to name but 2, endeavour to make those entering their hallowed halls feel worthless without having them. AVN has done an enormous amount of work to educate the public, long may it continue!
Yours sincerely,
Hello Toby
Would you please consider re-visiting this subject with a person less one sided??? It is unfortunate for the population of Australia to be so misled by someone so obviously bias. We deserve better than that.. actually some of us demand better than that.
I have 4 children, the oldest being nine. None are vaccinated. None have ever needed antibiotics. Actually, my 6 year old has never been to the doctor - never needed to. I don't see my children as being the germ carrying, disease ridden children that he intimates. Neither am I un-educated. I am an intelligent mother who has serious concerns regarding the administration of known poisons and toxins directly into my child's bloodstream - and mine!
If you wish to access further information regarding this highly contensious issue, I would suggest you do some good old fashioned detective work - visit the link shown below to go to the AVN website. They are not anti-vaccination as suggested in the interview. They believe in offering ALL the information and letting parents make their own decision - without "putting the fear of God in them"!!
Another site you could view is called Generation Rescue and their address is: http://www.generationrescue.org/
I hope that you consider my requests as I am aware of quite a number of parents who would like to hear the real story - not the one paid for by drug companies.
Thanks very much for your time.
kind regards
Hi there Toby,
I am fascinated to know why perhaps this evenings show showed such bias toward pharmaceutical dogma rather than true and relevant scientific research. I thought the ABC is supposed to be enamoured with the responsibility of spreading messages for the greater good of the people, not for the betterment of a political point of view... Especially when that point of view lacks substance and sound reason. Would you consider running another similar program with a less biased stance?
Your sincerely
Hello,
I have read the article at
http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/stories/2008/07/17/2306469.htm
and am concerned at the remarkably ill-informed bias the article exhibits. I have been told John Nutting and Peter Lavelle have been publicly discussing the matter of vaccination levels in Australia and linking that to cases of measles when in fact such a link does not exist.
The Australian Vaccination Network is a source of good information on the relative merits and dangers of vaccination and I would encourage Peter and John to do some research there (http://www.avn.org.au) and think it would a very good idea to invite Meryl Dorey of the AVN to explain the facts to the Australian public rather than presenting what sounds like a case of scare-mongering.
Thank you for your attention, and I would appreciate a reply e-mail confirming this message has been passed on to John and Peter. (The last time I wrote a similar e-mail to the ABC I received no acknowledgment at all).
Yours sincerely,
Dear Toby
I understand that you will be hosting a story on Measles and vaccination.
I am a professional woman with three young children. I am fully vaccinated.
When I had my first child I was handed information by a friend who suggested that I look into the matter of vaccination before proceeding to vaccinate him.
I spent more than 300 hours investigating the matter from a scientific and consumer point of view.
At that time I was fearful of the decision not to vaccinate. Accordingly I did not finally make up my mind until every question I had could be satisfactorily answered. My conclusion, without any doubt left in my mind was that -
vaccinations were unnecessary and ineffective
Vaccinations were dangerous
That was 6 years ago and I continue to study the matter to this day. In the six years since I have not read anything that challeges my conclusions - in fact as more and more evidence is gathered the conclusions are continually affirmed.
When you look at measles as an example Measles is a mild, self limiting viral diseas of childhood. Symptoms are red spots on the skin and mouth, fever and fatigue. It Commonly resolves in a week. Most Baby Boomers remember getting measles. Not a big deal, And they got lifetime immunity to the bargain - Natural immunity. Beers and Berkow,MD The Merck Manual - Centenial Edition 1999.
Looking at the statictics the disease was almost eradicated by istelf before mass vaccinations became popular in the 1960's. We have our town planners and heath departments to thank for the good work they did on planning and regulating better living environments.
The sales technique that sold measles vaccine was encephalitis - brain fever.
At the time of licensing the vaccine the figure 1 in 1000 was repeatedly used by those pushing the vaccine. Without the the vaccine 1 in 1000 babies will get encephalitis they said. No source was ever cited. Mendelson MD (Mendelson R MD How to raise a Healthy Child in spite of your Doctor) disagrees with this figure, and so does the international biostatistician Michael Anderson. If there were 44 deaths from measles in the entire 5 year period in the USA from 1965 - 1970, that would be an incidence far less than 1 in 100,000. As with other infectious diseases the victims were usually from overcrowded unhygenic environments who would be likely to die from any number of other pathologies which thrive in such locales.
Measles was and still is part of the MMR vaccine package developed in the early 1970's. It would not be so bad if the vaccine were simply unnecessary. But an entire array of side effects can result from MMR vaccines
Loss of muscle control
mental retardation
paralysis
MS
Guillain-Barre Syndrome
Blood clotting
Menengitis
reye's Syndrome
Seizures
Anaphylactic shock
Diabetes
Encephalitis (Mendelson R MD How to raise a Healthy Child in spite of your Doctor)
Hey wait a second! Is not the reason we need to vaccinate is to protect against encephalitis? Now here it is listed as a side effect of the vaccine. Measles itself does not cause all these illnesses!! Even pediatricians know that the vaccine contains a slow virus that can hide in the tissues for years and then manifest itself in later life. This is why so many Doctors in Los Angeles refused to use the MMR vaccine on their own children (Mendelsohn cf).
A 1989 CDC report stated that the measles vaccine 'produces immune suppression which contributes to an increased susceptibility to other infections' Clinical Immunology and Pathology May 1996.
Not only does the measles vaccine not prevent measles it also increases the chances of getting other infections.
Looks like the vaccine is worse than the disease. And now we have mandated such a vaccine for the general population based on shaky undocumented claims of possible encephalitis?
This is a marketing mystery.
With measles the absence of antibobies after vaccination has been known for decades "antibody production is therefore not necessary either for recovery from or for the development of immunity to measles" Nobel Laureate, Sir MacFarlane Burnet, 1971.
If you trace the vaccines effectiveness fin the USA for preventing ,measles by 1978 half of the measles cases were found in vaccinated children. And the WHO stated that those vaccinated have a 15 times greater chance of catching measles than those that are not vaccinated. (Mendelsohn. cf)
Between 1983 and 1989 the incidence of measles increased 10 fold. In the next year the incidence increased another 50%. 1990 saw 27,000 cases and 100 deaths reported in the US. Garrett
l, The coming Plague Penguin 1994.
Further more the CDC itself reports ,measles outbreaks in populations with 100% vaccination rates. Their "explanation" : the paradox is that measles .... becomes a diseas of immunized persons" (MMWR Oct 1984).
What about the value of child hood measles as an immune building experience? Scientist Viera Scheibner states
" It is well known that measles is an important development milestone in the maturing process of children. Why would anybody want to stop or delay the maturation process of children and their immune systems?"
The real horror about the measles vaccine however did not explode into public awareness til the house of representatives hearings on Autism conveved by Dan Burton on April 2000. Research done in England and Ireland began to show the measles vaccine as one of the two most likely causes of the current autism epidemic.
Confirmed in the USA court decision this year
" The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine ....in a proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from the vaccination to the PDD (Autism)" Banks v Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services
Toby, I urge you on behalf of our children and future generations to consider this matter fully. Vaccinations are very big business and there are interests that will stop at nothing to protect it. The truth needs to be revealed for the sake of our children.
I attach for you an extract from the book "The Sanctity of Human Blood" from which some of the above was taken. I would be happy to discuss this matter with you.
Kind Regards
Hello
I have just read the article John Nutting wrote about the above vaccination. I would love to know just how many children he has and the side effects they had after being vaccinated?? There doesn't seem to be much substantiated info in his article which surprises me from theABC.
I'm also surprised John hasn't seen the interview by the scientist that used to create and work in the laboratories making vaccines who is now totally against them.
Vaccines are huge business (one of the largest in the world) and these companies help run countries monetarily. Luckily they don't run small families and wonderful communities that have been through vaccine side effects first hand and learnt by their mistakes.
I hope you have a wonderful day.
Kindest Regards
Dear John
I found your interview with Mr Lavelle very biased and lacking convincing information about measles and it's vaccination. There are always 2 sides to every story so how about sharing some from parents who choose against this vaccination and better still from parents whose children have suffered adverse reactions from measles vaccination. There is credible information from many sources today against this vaccination and it is only fair to parents that they make an informed choice on this topic.
Regards,
To whom it may concern,
I have an autoimmune disorder which I believe was triggered by the polio vaccine of 1957.
My second daughter developed encephalitis within 48hrs of a D.P.T. vaccination, was very ill for a long time, I never had her vaccinated again.
Although my son had only pre school vaccination he had fever and allergy reactions.
I have a grandson who developed Autism and will need care for the rest of his life, he had been developing normally prior to the reaction to vaccinations.
His siblings are doing very well without vaccinations and will not be vaccinated.
All my children had measles and mumps which I believe boosted thier immune sytems naturaly. They had good home nursing, plenty of water and nutritious soups and yogurts while recuperating and therre were no complications.
I feel people should be encouraged to investigate before they vaccinate and make informed choices, find out what is in the vaccination and what the potential side effects might be.
Dear Mr Nutting,
Since becoming pregnant with our first child my family has spent alot of time investigation current vaccinations processes and other alternatives, becoming educated before making our decision. We were not comfortable in just doing what we were told, for us accepting the responsibility and making our own educated decision was part of the growth needed in becoming a parent. Our decision not to vaccinate our child did not come down to our lack of understanding (as portrayed by Peter Lavelle comments indicating that parents had trouble understanding how injecting a small amount of a virus or a bacteria into a child's body could help make them healthier), our decision came after years of research and education.
We have learnt that discussions about vaccinations are highly emotional, as every parent wants to be believe that they have done the 'right thing', so unfortunately there is often little discussions about choice and alternatives. In trying to make an informed decision we wanted access to balanced information on this topic. Unfortunately this is very hard to come by as often the media only shows one side to this story, the side promoted by the government.
Our society is very quick to put down parents for their 'uncontrolable' kids, if our society expects parents to be responsible for their own children then we need to allow parents to be fully responsible and that includes giving them all the information that is available so they can take ownership of their decisions as a parent. I thought our country stood for supporting its people, not controlling and disempowering them.
Kind Regards
Hello Mr Nutting
I am writing to you in regard to airing non-biased information on vaccination and the side effects. I have been doing my own research on this for 10 years now and there is so much false info out there on side effects and the use of fear to make people get themselves or their children vaccinated.
The ABC is my ABC too, and the general public need to hear correct information and not hyped up crap from the medical profession, who are obviously paid people who want their multi-billion dollar industry pushed, in other words, drug pushers!
Please, please air more information by groups like Australian Vaccination Network, who have the public's interest at heart.
Regards
Good evening Toby
It was great to hear that you had both sides of the discussion but what a shame that Peter was so biased. He certainly is into taking action by promoting fear. What a shame as I would take him more seriously if he would present his side with more facts and less fear.
The AVN's invaluable information helped my sister to make decisions regarding her daughter's health after having her vaccinations. Her doctor had little or more to the point no information regarding the possible side-effects and it was only the AVN who informed us that my niece's deafness could be a possible side-effect. Thank heavens it was temporary (over 3 months) but her immune systems has never been good after that.
Compulsory vaccination is not the answer but letting the general public know the full details pro and against with no bias is a start.
Regards
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