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Volume 13 Issue 22 : Sept 27, 2012
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How Flexible is a Ski Fit? 

  

Hi Ski Post,

Is there a rule of thumb concerning when new skis would be appropriate based on weight change?  for myself, I have lost about 15 pounds (185 to 170 pounds) since I purchased my current classic and skate skis a couple years ago.  I anticipate keeping that weight off and may even lose some more. Everything else being equal (which they never are), does the loss make me 'new ski worthy'? 

Are there certain weights the ski manufacturers' target?  For example do they try to make skis that will work for people in ranges from 120 to 150, 150 to 170, 170 to 190, etc? 

Thanks!

GD
Anchorage, Alaska

 


GD,

 

I think everyone is new ski worthy. So yes, you deserve new skis.

 

Skis are very flexible and very particular at the same time.  Weight change, even up to 15 lbs, will not necessarily make your skis unusable but if you are particular about your skiing, a 15lb fluctuation will affect greatly the way the ski behaves. Just as you are likely changing some of your clothing. The exact answer on if you can still use the ski will be influenced not only by weight but also by any changes in your fitness, technique and aspirations.

 

Using Salomon's DNA MidFlex it's classic skis are recommended to be fit at your body weight in KG + (2 to 8kg). For Skate fit Salomon recs a ski at body weight + (20-30kg). So for you at 185lbs= 84kg/2m makes 42kg your weight and + (2 to 8) = 44to50kg your classic fit and 42+ (20to30kg) = 62-72kg your skate fit. At 170lbs/2.2/2=your weight=39 making a 41 to 47kg classic and a 59-69kg skate your fit.  So if your skis were fit on the soft range when you were 186lbs (say 45 and 64) then they would still be within range but on the stiff side for you at 170lbs. But if your skis were on the stiff range when you were 186lbs they will be too stiff for you 170lbs.

 

If you bring your skis into AMH in Anchorage they will have you stand on a test board to calibrate how the ski fit for you. They can find out easily if the skis are now too stiff or within range for an all-around ski or a more particular snow type.

 

Then to start a new ski fit process you would first look for a new ski with a weight corridor that fits you. Skis are engineered to work for skiers within weight corridors based on a theoretical weight range of skiers much like shirts are made to fit our bodies. A Salomon Equipe 10 Classic Cold 206 comes in three weight corridors Soft, Medium & Hard. Soft skis are aimed at skiers between 143-165lbs, Medium 165-187lbs, Hard 187-209lbs. Salomon Equipe 10 Skate 192 soft 140-176lbs, hard 160-195lbs xhard 190-220lbs.

 

For you now at 170 lbs you would fit in a Salomon 206 cold medium in classic and a 192 hard in skate. So if you were purchasing new skis your retailer would start look at all their 206 mediums or 192 hard and then you could look at each ski's individual DNA to fine tune the selection for you. The weight corridor is like a selecting a shirt off the rack in small, medium or large. Using the Salomon skis DNA is like starting with a large but then tailoring for arm length, neck size, torso length, athletic cut, fabric, buttons... and more. Depending on your goals you may be very content with a well-made large that is not too big or too small or you may wish for custom tailoring with the ski DNA.  You can read about more of the finest details on a classic skis individual DNA in last week's ski fit article below and linked to last week's complete article.

 

 

 

 

Some guidelines using the Salomon's DNA Ski ID are answered in last weeks Residual Camber linked article

 

 

Salomon DNA Ski ID

 

Residual Camber

 

The most important determining factor in kick has to do more with the shape of the wax pocket than the strength of the pocket.

When you put your full body weight through the ball of your foot, you compress the pocket completely in that location. In other words, the ski is closed - in contact with the snow - under the ball of your foot. But on most skis some of the pocket in front of the ball of the foot doesn't close all the way flat. I call this leftover shape in the pocket "residual camber". The shape and amount of residual camber in your wax pocket helps to determine the conditions in which your ski will perform optimally. Read the complete residual camber article here.

 

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