"Q1:  P'taah, can we talk about my perception of having experienced a microcosmic fall, a fall from grace, and I don't mean that in a negative way.

P'taah:  Oh, beloved, you know, we would not even call it a fall from grace. You are really and truly always in a state of grace in the greater sense of it.  However, you may say simply a change of focus.

Q1:  Right, in my perception, I guess, because when I went and lived in the woods and started playing with clay, I did feel that I had turned my back on God.

P'taah:  You had forgotten in that moment that God was in the clay and in the woods.

Q1:  Right, right, and it's seemed that it's a quite natural process as well. It's what humanity is here to do.  That's what I want to ask. Is humanity here to turn toward the light and be illuminated and all connected like we were when we took the macrocosmic fall and came to this planet?

P'taah:  Beloved, there was no fall. 

Q1:  Yes, but because the veils came down and we feel disconnected, it feels like a fall.

P'taah:  Indeed, but you see, you chose it.

Q1:  That's beautiful. Yes, I understand.

P'taah:  You chose it and you are not ever, ever disconnected from Source. How could you possibly be?

Q1:  I'm just saying in our experience -

P'taah:  Indeed, but you see the experience, all of it, is to lead you back to the idea that there is no thing which is not Source. And in the understanding that there is a nothing which is not Source, as you connect, as you play with your clay, as you take off your clothes and dance naked in the moonlight, so you are saying, "Here I am, this Perfect Expression of Creation, with every other Perfect Expression of Creation and thank you, thank you, thank you!"

Q1:  So I am wondering if it's a cycle and we just keep doing it over and over until we really get it. Maybe we take it deeper and deeper and deeper.

P'taah:  Well, you know, you can look at it in this way, and in a way, that is a practical way to look at it. Also to remember that within the cycles, all of the cycles are occurring simultaneously. So in the eternal Now, you are perfect, only a change of focus. 

You may say also, in this way of looking at it, of cyclic rhythms, that in terms of your history, you have a focus which is called patriarchal society, then you have a cycle called matriarchal society. So in a way, all of this is simply so that you have every possible experience. You understand?        

Q1:  Yes.

P'taah:  In the same way that if you look at your history, you see that for this cycle, this nation is the supreme one and then that dies down and then another one comes, almost like waves in the ocean, you see? 

So it is with how you, in all of your lifetimes, experience all of the stories. In some you are quite illumined and others, not at all. Sometimes you remember who you are and sometimes you do not.

In a way, that is like this lifetime. Some days you feel totally illumined and sometimes that goes on for weeks or even months where you are floating in this knowing of who you really are in your connectedness. Other times you lose the plot entirely and you live in fear and grayness, in sadness. So it is.

Q1:  And this is when we really appreciate you reaching through and giving a hand up, I think. I do appreciate the density as well. I am coming to appreciate both, of course, both ends of the rise and the fall. I know it's all good. It's when we're in it, like what you are saying, that we forget. We want to be able to remember when we are in it.

I have a question about how we are treating this planet. Maybe it's just a matter of perception, but it seems like we humans are hell-bent on destroying the earth.

P'taah:  For as much as some are hell-bent on destroying it, there are also many, many now who are turning that around.  And we say to each of you that your duty is to love the Goddess and to show that forth, however you may, to change the consciousness of greed and destruction.

Q1:  And for some reason this thought came to me. It seems as if we're compelled to do it, as if it's something in our DNA or programming or it's Gaia's will that we do this. Something, I don't know. I thought I'd address that with you and see how deep-seated this is and the root causes of it. 

P'taah:  The root cause is fear, fear of lack.      

Q1:  Hmm, grabbing, grabbing, raping, yes!

P'taah:   And so in a way, it is the beneficence of Gaia, the Goddess, to allow this so that you may come to discover a grander truth. The beneficence of Goddess is awesome.   

Q2:  So, what's going on, and you have spoken about this before, is really just a mirror of our own fear.

P'taah:  Absolutely.    

Q2:  And learning to embrace that fear.    

P'taah:  Absolutely.

Q2:  And to realize that there is nothing to fear. The thing that I find helps me with that is to say thank you and thank you, particularly, for the safe universe.    

P'taah:  Indeed.  

Q1:  And we can only do that for ourselves. We can't force anyone else into this understanding.

P'taah:  No, you cannot. However, as you go about your worlds showing forth in your actions what is in your heart and mind, then indeed you touch the consciousness of the entire planet.  

Q1:   Thank you.

Q2:  I still find myself unsettled that we're never ever really alone and there are always many other energies around us. I mean, there are parts of my life I'd rather not have a huge audience for.   

P'taah:  Send love, beloved.

Q2:  I know, but it still does terrible things to my insides every time you say that. I am thinking, well, maybe this time they won't be there.

P'taah:  And you see, beloved, it was no judgment about you.

Q2:  My gracious! You mean there could be that much non-judgment?

P'taah:  Indeed.      

Q2:  That's a big stretch of non-judgment, I'm afraid.

P'taah:  What is it that you could possibly do or think?  You see it is not only your deeds that are known. It is your thoughts as well. So what is so terrible about anything that you would do or think that you would think somebody would judge you for, beloved?

Q2:  It's probably just me judging me. If it were someone else doing the same thing, thinking the same thing, I would think nothing of it. But the fact that it's me, I guess the person who is judging me is me.        

P'taah:  Indeed.

Q1:  The thing that pops in my mind is that if there are beings that are vibrating at that rate then they've in unconditional love.

P'taah:  Oh, beloved, you know, every thought you have is an open book to everybody on this planet.

Q1:  And so are theirs, too, right? There is no 'me' for anything to belong to, is there?

P'taah:  Indeed. Even when you are being mean and nasty, you know, as you look at other people who are being mean and nasty, you forgive it.  You say, "Oh, well, that is only because they are a little afraid."  

You think that nobody would do that for you?

Q2:  Yeah, we're so much harder on ourselves then anyone else would ever be.

P'taah:  Indeed, indeed, it is so.

Q2:  So, let us go back to your wonderful recipes. Can you provide a recipe for working through the judgment, embracing the judgment?

P'taah:  Beloved, it is to stop, to breathe, and to say, "I am the Perfect and Eternal Expression of the Source and sometimes I forget and I am afraid." Because you see, every thought or deed that does not come from that place of love and allowance, comes from the place of the fear of not being enough. That is all. "Sometimes I forget."

Q2:  Yeah, sometimes I do.

Q1:   Hey, me, too.

Q2:  I don't have anything to say after that, P'taah.

P'taah:  Well, that is all right. So is it sufficient unto the time?

Q2:  That is a lovely place to leave it. I feel quite emotional at the moment.

P'taah:  Are you full, beloved?      

Q1: Yes.

P'taah:  All right, if you are full, then we shall say it is sufficient unto the time. So indeed we thank you for this opportunity to share with you, to serve you, and it is with the grandest love, we issue forth to each of you and to all, 

Namaste."