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Your Rice Family E~Zine
Generation by Generation ~ Century by Century
TWICE MONTHLY VOL. 2, NO. 15 Aug. 21, 2009
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An Irish Rice Family Which Came Prior to the Revolutionary War
REBECCA (RICE) CONNELL (1742-1806) IS BURIED IN THE CONNELL PLOT SHOWN ABOVE. SHE MARRIED ZACHARIAH CONNELL, FOUNDER OF CONNELLSVILLE, WHICH IS IN FAYETTE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA. THE RICE AND CONNELL FAMILIES CAME THERE FROM FREDERICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA. REBECCA WAS A DAUGHTER OF PATRICK RICE (1708-1798), WHO CAME FROM IRELAND WITH REBECCA'S OLDER BROTHERS, JOHN, EDMOND AND GEORGE RICE. REBECCA WAS THE FIRST CHILD BORN HERE AND HAD TWO YOUNGER SISTERS, ELIZABETH AND SUSANNA. (See story below)
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IN THIS ISSUE
Documentation:
A Family Style
Rice Sleuth
Origin of the Word "Pedigree"
Descendants of Gideon Rice (1711-1761)
of Connecticut
For Root Diggers
and Branch Climbers:
"Genealogy Is..."
DNA CASE STUDY:
Thomas Rice Doesn't Match Any Rices--He matches the Fletchers!
Southern Family Trees:
~ DAR Line of Descent
from Hezekiah Rice
of Virginia
~ Rice Family with
Lots of Smiths
NETWORKING:
Bob Rice Asks Help
with the Gap
in His Rice Lineage
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for Curious
Rice Ancestor
WANT A
BIGGER
CATCH?
TWO THINGS
TO TRY:
1) If you are not a male bearing the Rice surname, find a relative who is and have a DNA test done.
2) Send in the name of your earliest known Rice ancestor, giving at least one date and location, and we will try to match it with those families being researched by other readers. Email: ricebooksreb@yahoo.com
NEWSLETTER ARCHIVE
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Documentation, Documentation,
Documentation!
SHOWN ABOVE ARE JAMES SYLVESTER RICE (1849-1937) AND HIS WIFE, THE FORMER MARTHA LYNCH (1853-1928). JAMES IS A GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDSON OF PATRICK RICE (1708-1798), WHO WAS BORN IN IRELAND AND CAME TO AMERICA BEFORE 1742.
A Family Style Rice Sleuth
Chris Rice has an interesting "private" family tree online at ancestry.com. Much of the material is about what Rice researchers refer to as "the Rice's Landing Rices" and she has incorporated into this material on her husband's Rice line some information received from Philip Rice and other descendants of the immigrant Patrick Rice (1708-1798) who arrived in America sometime prior to 1742.
The family first lived in Frederick Co., VA, before locating in Pennsylvania, where there were large branches descending from the Rices at Connellsville in Fayette Co., PA, and at Rice's Landing further west in Greene Co., PA.
Members of this branch of the family also located in Mason Co., WV, and Hancock Co., KY, at an early date. Before long, Patrick Rice's descendants had spread further west.
Today's story is more about Chris Rice's genealogical sleuthing than it is about this particular branch of the Rice family.
5035 HISTORICAL RECORDS
Your editor often rants and raves about online family trees that violate the basic tenets of good genealogical research, usually complaining about their misinformation and the tendency online family researchers have of copying other people's information and not documenting their lineage.
This family tree has 2878 people, 362 photos, 93 stories
and 5035 historical records. Such an effort deserves recognition. Very few online trees have more records than they do people!
POSITIVE USE OF TECHNOLOGY
What Chris is doing in tracking down ancestors is a positive use of technology that leads to good results. What copycats genealogists are doing is a negative use of technology which usually results in disaster. The real harm is not so much to themselves (they often don't even know it), but to genealogy in general. They are leaving flawed lineages for thousands of future genealogists to waste time puzzling over.
WORKING WITH THE RECORDS
Chris has scanned into her husband's family tree not only wills, deeds, census records, maps and a variety of other records, but also dozens of pictures of gravestones and other family-related material.
You need permission to get into this online tree. Chris has graciously agreed to let our readers have access. Just send her an email.
MORE ABOUT THESE RICES
This interesting branch of the Rice family is being covered in depth in Rice Book 4, which is currently being compiled.
This next book features both Pennsylvania and Maryland branches of the Rice family, many of which date back to the colonial era. Meanwhile, you can check out Chris Rice's family tree to get a sneak peek at one of them.
Chris also has connections in her family to another Rice line: that of Gideon Rice (1711-1761) of Connecticut. It is strictly coincidental that we also have material on it in this issue.
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IT'S A PEDIGREE
How Are You Doing with
Your Crane's Footprint?
Five hundred years ago people were as interested in tracing their roots as they are today. Monks spent endless hours researching records, filling out genealogical charts and writing histories.
Admittedly, they may not have been purists. They had two motives: First, genealogy was part of the Biblical Old Testament wherein generations begat generations and it became important to trace the lineage of Jesus back to kings Solomon and David, who had been mentioned as the precursors of the coming messiah.
Their second motive was to chronicle all the royal lineages belonging to the houses of power in not only all the kingdoms, but also in the lineages of the popes. Indeed, some of the lay and clerical lineages did not mesh and it is possible that the monks had to guess on which side their bread was buttered. Who was paying the way...the pope or the king? They had to hedge their bets.
As the monks would note the descent from one generation to the next, they would make a litle three-line mark: a long line with two little ones angling out at the bottom.
This mark looked to them like the footprint of a crane, the animal known in the French language as the "pied de grue". It is now this foot that we now refer to when we speak of our "pedigree".
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CONNECTICUT RICE LINE
Descendants of Gideon Rice (1711-1761)
Gideon Rice/Royce descends from Robert-1 Royce of New London, CT, through his son, Isaac-2 (ca. 1650-1682), and grandson, Robert-3 (1674-1759), both of Wallingford, CT. Gideon was the son of Robert-3 and his second wife, the former Abigail Benedict. These earlier generations are covered in Rice Book 2: The Immigrants.
Descendants of Gideon ROYCE*
1 Gideon ROYCE* 1711 - 1761
.. +Mary DUTTON 1723 - 1746
......... 2 Mary ROYCE 1743 - 1745
......... 2 Titus RICE* 1743/44 -
............. +Lois KELLOGG 1752 - 1798
.................... 3 Susannah RICE 1771 -
.................... 3 Rachael RICE 1773 - 1784
.................... 3 GIRL RICE 1783 -
.................... 3 GIRL RICE 1785 -
.................... 3 BOY RICE 1787 - 1846
.................... 3 Gideon RICE 1789 -
.................... 3 JOTHAM RICE 1791 -
.................... 3 Ira RICE 1793 - 1868
........................ +Minerva Saxton 1796 - 1824
............................... 4 Ira RICE 1815 -
............................... 4 Asaph RICE 1817 - 1872
................................... +Louisa BUSENBARK 1827 - 1885
........................................... 5 Henry Asaph RICE 1851 - 1930
........................................... 5 James Manning RICE 1852 - 1933
........................................... 5 Edwin RICE 1854 - 1884
........................................... 5 Oscar Fitzland RICE 1857 - 1933
............................................... +Stella ANDREWS 1864 - 1952
...................................................... 6 Oscar S RICE 1886 - 1983
.......................................................... +Nellie Elizabeth STONE 1895 -
................................................................. 7 GLENN Joseph RICE 1915 - 1947
................................................................. 7 KEITH Oscar RICE 1917 - 1936
...................................................... *2nd Wife of Oscar S RICE:
.......................................................... +Vera B. WHITE 1906 - 1931
...................................................... 6 Edgar Allen RICE 1888 - 1975
.......................................................... +Marion REMINGTON 1890 - 1965
...................................................... 6 Laura B RICE 1893 - 1981
.......................................................... +Luther Andrew SATTERFIELD 1890 - 1972
................................................................. 7 Lila Florence SATTERFIELD 1912 - 1994
..................................................................... +William W. WRASPIR 1907 -
............................................................................ 8 Donald Craig MATHER 1935 -
................................................................. *2nd Husband of Lila Florence SATTERFIELD:
..................................................................... +Walter J NEIHEISEL 1912 - 1990
................................................................. 7 Ethyl Marguerite SATTERFIELD 1913 - 1982
..................................................................... +Neils CHRISTENSEN 1903 -
............................................................................ 8 Joan Elaine CHRISTENSEN 1944 -
................................................................. 7 Avis Wilda SATTERFIELD 1916 - 2001
..................................................................... +Edward Elwin HUFFMAN 1898 - 1978
............................................................................ 8 Margo Avis HUFFMAN 1938 - 1940
............................................................................ 8 Richard Edward HUFFMAN 1941 - 1964
................................................................. 7 Irvin Allan SATTERFIELD 1918 -
..................................................................... +Isabelle MORRISON 1919 - 1997
............................................................................ 8 Philip Allen SATTERFIELD 1945 -
............................................................................ 8 Lee Ann SATTERFIELD 1946 -
............................................................................ 8 Dean Edwin SATTERFIELD 1953 -
............................................................................ 8 Timothy Wade SATTERFIELD 1956 -
................................................................. 7 Luther Dallas SATTERFIELD 1921 -
..................................................................... +Audrey HIETALA 1924 - 2001
............................................................................ 8 Stephan Lynn SATTERFIELD 1948 -
............................................................................ 8 CATHY Jo SATTERFIELD 1949 -
............................................................................ 8 Scott Dallas SATTERFIELD 1951 -
............................................................................ 8 David Dee SATTERFIELD 1952 -
............................................................................ 8 DIANE BETH SATTERFIELD 1952 -
............................................................................ 8 CANDACE B SATTERFIELD 1953 -
............................................................................ 8 Craig Lee SATTERFIELD 1956 -
............................................................................ 8 Tami SATTERFIELD 1965 -
................................................................. 7 Leland Glen SATTERFIELD 1921 - 1921
................................................................. 7 Elwin Lynn SATTERFIELD 1923 - 1990
..................................................................... +Zella Lorraine SAVAGE 1928 - 1978
............................................................................ 8 Mark Elwyn SATTERFIELD 1950 - 1992
............................................................................ 8 Brett Dallas SATTERFIELD 1951 - 1997
............................................................................ 8 Murray KYLE SATTERFIELD 1953 - 1985
............................................................................ 8 Julie Lynn SATTERFIELD 1955 -
............................................................................ 8 Luther Clay SATTERFIELD 1957 -
............................................................................ 8 John WALLACE SATTERFIELD 1958 -
................................................................. 7 Murray O SATTERFIELD 1925 -
..................................................................... +Peggy
................................................................. *2nd Wife of Murray O SATTERFIELD:
..................................................................... +Margaret VANDERFORD 1927 -
............................................................................ 8 Robert Murray SATTERFIELD 1946 -
............................................................................ 8 Jay Lynn SATTERFIELD 1950 -
............................................................................ 8 Carol Ann SATTERFIELD 1957 -
................................................................. 7 Rita SATTERFIELD 1927 - 1927
................................................................. 7 Robert LaVon SATTERFIELD 1929 -
..................................................................... +Susana Martha SOCAS 1932 -
............................................................................ 8 Jackie Von SATTERFIELD 1957 -
............................................................................ 8 Jeri Susan SATTERFIELD 1958 -
............................................................................ 8 Barney Dart SATTERFIELD 1960 -
............................................................................ 8 Kelly Ann SATTERFIELD 1962 -
............................................................................ 8 June SATTERFIELD 1965 - 1965
................................................................. 7 Gloria Gaye SATTERFIELD 1933 -
..................................................................... +Gene PECK 1921 -
................................................................. *2nd Husband of Gloria Gaye SATTERFIELD:
..................................................................... +James Fredrick ATWATER 1933 - 1964
............................................................................ 8 Gregory TODD PECK 1957 - 1999
............................................................................ 8 Brian Marshall PECK 1959 - 1979
............................................................................ 8 Chadley Ryan ATWATER 1962 -
................................................................. *3rd Husband of Gloria Gaye SATTERFIELD:
..................................................................... +STANLEY ROBINSON
...................................................... 6 Amy Estell RICE 1895 - 1979
...................................................... 6 Myra May RICE 1897 - 1975
........................................... 5 Jedediah RICE 1860 - 1860
........................................... 5 George Albert RICE 1862 - 1919
........................................... 5 Lemira Louisa RICE 1867 - 1887
........................................... 5 Orson Alma RICE 1868 - 1941
............................... *2nd Wife of Asaph RICE:
................................... +Mary BUSENBARK 1829 - 1888
........................................... 5 Leander Manning RICE 1853 - 1896
........................................... 5 Francilo Saxton RICE 1855 - 1880
........................................... 5 Daniel Henry RICE 1857 - 1896
........................................... 5 Mary Jane RICE 1859 - 1945
........................................... 5 Joseph Hyrum RICE 1861 - 1944
........................................... 5 Hyrum Joseph RICE 1861 - 1946
........................................... 5 Martha Ann RICE 1863 - 1943
........................................... 5 Alvirus Julian RICE 1865 - 1929
........................................... 5 Alvira Julia RICE 1865 - 1865
........................................... 5 Margaret Ella RICE 1868 - 1950
............................... 4 Maryette RICE 1818 -
............................... 4 Julietta RICE 1820 -
............................... 4 William Kelsey RICE 1822 - 1913
................................... +Ann Victoria Rose
.................... *2nd Wife of Ira RICE:
........................ +Sarah Ann HARRINGTON 1800 -
............................... 4 Harriet RICE 1825 -
............................... 4 Benjamin RICE 1827 - 1880
............................... 4 Leonard Gurley RICE 1829 - 1880
............................... 4 Henriette RICE 1831 -
............................... 4 Oscar North RICE 1835 - 1880
............................... 4 Adaline RICE 1837 -
............................... 4 Adelbert RICE 1839 -
............................... 4 Caroline RICE 1841 -
............................... 4 Deliah RICE 1842 - 1842
............................... 4 Hyrum SMITH RICE 1844 -
............................... 4 Ephriam RICE 1846 - 1851
............................... 4 Sarah Ann RICE 1863 - 1863
.................... *3rd Wife of Ira RICE:
........................ +Elizabeth Ann Morris 1817 - 1897
......... *2nd Wife of Titus RICE*:
............. +Rachael
*2nd Wife of Gideon ROYCE*:
.. +Rebecca JOHNSON 1723 - 1811
......... 2 WAIT ROYCE 1748 - 1828
......... 2 JUSTUS ROYCE 1750 - 1752
......... 2 Gideon ROYCE 1752 - 1777
......... 2 Mary ROYCE 1753 - 1809
......... 2 JUSTUS ROYCE 1756 -
......... 2 Rebecca ROYCE 1758 - 1811
......... 2 JOTHAM ROYCE 1761 - 1782
THE ROYCE HOUSE: OLDEST HOME IN WALLINGFORD, CT
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FOR FELLOW ROOT DIGGERS
& BRANCH CLIMBERS Genealogy Is...
According to the dictionary, genealogy is:
To me, however, genealogy is a whole lot more than those three dry sentences. It is finding my roots, my family, and my home. It is:
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Seeing my grandparents as a young couple in a census record with their two baby girls; children who I know will be dead within the year.
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Seeing my mother as a one-month-old child.
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Seeing my great grandfather's signature on Civil War records and knowing that he and others like him must have gone through hell.
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Finding even the skeletons in the closets or the black sheep of the family.
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Finding that my family went through some terrible times, but also knowing that they survived.
It is seeing in my mind's eye the careworn faces of all of those who have gone on before me.
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Listening to old stories told by our elders and passing those precious stories down.
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Writing down those stories and facts for our children and their children.
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Finding cousins I had not seen nor heard from in fifty years.
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Finding new cousins and new friends, people who have come to mean so very much to me.
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Realizing how important family is.
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Discovering how important it is to honor those ancestors who came before us.
Perhaps most of all, it is the sharing of information with others who, like me, love the research.
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It is not just dusty records or words.
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It is not only sharing the excitement of finding a new ancestor, but also sharing the frustrations of not being able to find what you are looking for.
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It is the bouncing of ideas back and forth and commiserating with another when the clue goes nowhere.
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It is being able to say "Look! Look what I have found!" and knowing that your excitement will be shared and understood.
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It is being able ask a question on a mailing list, knowing that what you are asking may be dumb, but knowing that you will not be treated with disrespect.
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It is people who give of their time and their energies to help you.
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It is people who volunteer their time and energies to do lookups on the various county web pages.
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It is people who volunteer their time and energies for the various historical societies.
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It is people who give of their time to transcribe old documents and microfilm, and who share that knowledge, whether it is through books sold by historical societies or on web pages.
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It is people who go through old cemeteries and take the time to write down those who are buried there and share that knowledge gladly.
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It is people who share old photographs, old letters and their old family stories, not expecting anything back other than a thank you and the knowledge that they have helped another in their family quest.
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It is people who go above and beyond what is asked of them because they love genealogy. They love the fun of it, the frustrations of it and the excitement of it.
It is also the knowledge that you are passing down something of worth; that you are leaving behind a little something of yourself. It is the knowledge that through all of your research you may have made a difference, however small it may be.
That is a little of what genealogy means to me. (author unknown)
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FASCINATING DNA CASE STUDY
Thomas Rice Matches No Rices:
Is 25/25 Match with 2 Fletchers
DNA testing offers many answers but, sometimes, it gives rise to more questions than it answers. The following was received from reader Randall Rice, who keeps his eyes open for new development in the Rice Family DNA Project. This is what he received from Dick Fletcher, who lives in Delaware.
I'm looking to find a potential family connection between Thomas Rice, born about 1787, apparently in or near Prince William County, or Fauquier County, Virginia and the family of Moses Fletcher, Sr., born before 1735, found in Stafford County, and living in Fauquier County after 1759 to his death in 1797, w/ three sons, Moses Jr., Jesse and George.
William Rice, the Revolutionary War Soldier from Fauquier County, is father of Thomas Rice. The unknown father of William Rice is alleged to have been killed at the time of Braddock's Defeat and the soldier killed may, in fact, be a Fletcher. Lois Blankenship,* myself, and others have attempted to sort this riddle out for years and now DNA reveals other evidence.
Moses Fletcher tests 37/37 with Rex Fletcher who goes back to one of the Elijah Fletchers (some are in a different DNA line). Of the 91 Fletcher DNA participants, eight others are clustered around Moses as the oldest, with 23 or 24/25 matches, and two that are compared at 12/12. The other paper trails go back to Montgomery Co., VA, and Wilkes Co., SC, and other points south. Thomas Rice does not have any Rice matches (11/12 or 20+/25) among the 199 Rice DNA participants. However he is a 25/25 match to Moses and Elijah Fletcher.
Usually I don't pay too much attention to non-surname matches, esp. at 12/12 or 22/25. Family Tree DNA stresses that non-surname matches are not statistically valid for comparisons or predictions of most recent common ancestors and may go back to before surnames were common - perhaps over 1,000 years. I do look at them and find a high preponderance of Irish surnames - perhaps an origin clue (vs Scotland or England). But with a 25/25 match, no Rice comparisons and a geographical connection in Prince William and Fauquier, then I pay attention.
Thus I am asking if you can record check to see if there is any potential for a child being fathered by a Fletcher but raised by a Rice. Thomas Rice eventually married a Sally McDaniel and moved to Bedford, VA. He was a circuit rider for the Methodist church and traveled. He eventually settled in Giles Co. VA.
The most likely explanation is that the DNA lines are separate for several centuries, and came from the same old country location, or they mutated over the years to become identical. The possibilities that I can imagine for a recent common ancestor connection are:
- One always wonders about the "milkman" potential.
- Both Fletcher parents of a generation die, and their orphan is taken in
(adopted) by a Rice, and grows up assuming the new family name.
- A Rice male marries a widow of a Fletcher, with a son that takes on the
new family name.
- A male Fletcher dies, a guardian would be named (even if the mother was still alive), the mother later dies, and the child then grows up under the
guardian and eventually takes on his name.
- A young lady has a child out of wedlock (a Fletcher father) and later weds a Rice, who raises the son as his own.
- A female Rice marries a Fletcher, they die, the children are raised by Rice grandparents, and take on the Rice name.
Some of these possibilities could have left a paper trail. Usually DNA allows us to make a connection where there is no paper trail, but this is a paper trail search initiated because of a like DNA pattern. I will appreciate any efforts to find a connection. (RJ Fletcher, August 13, 2009).
If any reader has information that sheds light on this Rice/Fletcher ancestral puzzle, you may email Randall Rice.
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* Lois Blankenship is seriously ill with cancer and prayers have been requested for this long time genealogist who is familiar to many Rice family researchers. She first corresponded with your editor more than 20 years ago.
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SOUTHERN FAMILY TREES
DAR Lineage with Descent from
Hezekiah Rice of Virginia
Mrs. Sarah Rice Lewis; born in Union County, South Carolina
DAR ID Number: 121518
Wife of Beverly Crump Lewis, Jr.
Descendant of Lieut. Hezekiah Rice, Col. William Graham, Ensign Spencer Morgan, Capt. Amos Davis, John Nuckolls, William Walton, Capt. Charles Sims and Isabella Bowles Sims, as follows:
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Spencer Morgan Rice (1859-1912) m. 1888 Evelina Sarratt (b. 1870).
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William George Rice (1831-1908) m. 1854 Sarah Eliza Sims (1830-1902); Anthony Abram Sarratt (1843-98) m. 1868 Mary Racolet Walker (1850-96).
Clough Shelton Sims (1797-1852) m. 1827 Ann Quay (1799-1880); Gilbert Sarratt (1807-84) m. 1837 Charlotte Lucretia Irvine (1812-94).
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Reuben Sims Rice (1790-1842) m. 1819 Agnes Bullock Morgan (1800-81); Allen Walker (1820-63) m. 1848 Sarah Ann Hoey (1825-51).
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Hezekiah Rice m. 1777 Mary Saunders (1760-1832); William Sims (1765-1853) m. 1786 Elizabeth Shelton (1767-1833); Abram Irvine (1770-1824) m. Sarah Graham (b. 1780); Spencer Morgan m. 2nd 1798 Frances Nuckolls (b. 1763); Samuel Johnson Hoey (1798-1845) m. 1823 Clara Tillman Davis (1806-68).
[p.166] 5. Charles Sims m. 1764 Sybella (Isabella) Bowles; William Graham m. Sarah Bellas Twitty; Amos Davis, Jr. (1783-1823), m. 1799 Nancy Walton (1783-1845); John Nuckolls m. 1756 Agatha Bullock (1741-1815).
6. Matthew Sims m. 1736 Jemima Glenn (b. 1718); Amos Davis m. 1780 Mary Alburn (1759-1832); William Walton m. 1759 Elizabeth Tillman (1744-87).
Hezekiah Rice (1756-1800) was lieutenant under General Green. He was born in Hanover County, Va.; died in Virginia.
William Graham (1742-1835) commanded a regiment of Tryon County, North Carolina militia. He was born in Augusta County, Va.; died in Rutherford, N. C.
Spencer Morgan (1756-1809) served as ensign, 1779-81, Virginia Line. He was born in Virginia; died in Union County, S. C.
Amos Davis (1757-1840) served as captain in Col. Richard Nimm's regiment, Virginia troops. He died in Fairfield County, Va.
John Nuckolls (1732-80) enlisted as private and was killed by a band of Tories. He was born in Dinwiddie County, Va.
Also Nos. 115115, 115557.
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William Walton (1736-1806) served as private, 1780, in Capt. John Loving's company. He was born in Goochland County, Va.; died in Virginia.
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Charles Sims (1737-1827) raised a company, 1777, in Albemarle County, Va. He was born in Somerset, England; died in Union County, S. C.
Also No. 118005.
Isabella Bowles Sims (1740-1818) nursed the wounded soldiers and was later driven from her home by Tories. She was born in Virginia; died in Marion County, S. C.
SOURCE: The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, Volume 122, page 166
(Editor's Note: Please note that this Hezekiah Rice reportedly died in Virginia. This should be considered when looking at records for Hezekiah Rice in Caswell Co., NC, and Hezekiah Rice in Union Dist., SC.)
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SMITHS AND MORE SMITHS ON THIS RICE FAMILY TREE
John Wesley Smith had two Smith parents, two Smith grandfathers and two Rice grandmothers. Here's what happened. Ruben Smith married Elizabeth Smith. He was the son of Michael Smith and she was the daughter of Edward Smith. Ruben was the son of Judith Rice and Elizabeth was the daughter of Sally Rice.
Michael Smith and Judith Rice were wed 15 June 1759 in Goochland Co., VA. Edward Smith and Sally Rice were married 3 Dec. 1762 in Albemarle Co., VA.
Can any reader tell us if/how Michael Smith and Edward Smith were related to each other and if/how Judith Rice and Sally Rice are related to each other?
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NETWORKING: Bob Rice's Unproven Generation
Needs Proof His Francis Rice (b. 1817, PA)
Is Grandson of Levi Rice (b. 1763, Brookfield, MA)
(Following is Bob Rice's summary of his line. He asks for reader input. Bob helps us--he handles book orders for the Rice Family Book Project--and now he asks that we help him. Fair enough.)
Tracing my probable lineage backward I am a descendent of Judge and Deacon
Edmund Rice b. 1594 Barkhamstesad, Hertfordshire, England. and died in 1663
in Marlborough, Middlesex, Ma. This ancestry is derived through DNA testing.
It is therefore probable that I descend from Edmund or one of his earlier England ancestors. Assuming that I am his descendent then my sequential ancestry would certainly be Edward b. 1622, Benjamin b. 1666, Azariah b. 1693, Ephraim b. 1735 and Levi b. 1763 Brookfield, Worcester, Ma. Levi served in the Revolution and at its end he is reported to have moved to Pennsylvania where he raised a large family.
Tracing my Rice lineage backward, it would be Max b. 1915, Harry b. 1886,
Orrin Bela b. 1849, Francis Sneckenburger b. 1817 Athens Twp., Bradford
Co., Pa.
it is at this forward and backward point that the waters get muddied with
only circumstantial evidence existing that Francis was a descendent of the
Brookfield, MA Levi Rice.
That evidence is:
1. My and thus Francis DNA;
2. A Levi shows up in Athens, Bradford Co., PA records in 1795 living there
through about 1815 where his will records a Silas, Harley, Eunice, Mary and Polly as recipients of his 60 acre property. The 1810 census shows Levi to have been b. 1765-1784 and he had a son b. abt. 1794.
3. Silas Rice b. 1794 shows up first in Athens, Bradford Co., Pa and ultimately in the 1860's in Franklin Township, Bradford Co., PA. He also shows up in First Christian Church Records of Franklin Township, Bradford County, in the late 1850's.
4. It is to this First Christian Church that Francis Sneckenburger Rice was also a member at that time. This is my proven ancestor and thus my conclusion that Francis was Silas' son.
On the other hand, records of who voted at the first general election held in 1800 in Bradford County included Levi Rice but also show an asterisk beside those voters who served in the Revolution. There was no asterisk next to Levi's name.
I have recorded all known Levi Rice's b. between 1750 and 1800 and none of them, other than the Brookfield, MA Levi, qualifies as my ancestor.
Thus my dilemma. Circumstances apparantly confirm my conclusion that I
descend from Levi and thus from Judge and Deacon Edmund Rice BUT DOUBT
EXISTS. Anyone out there with any ideas?
Robert L. Rice
Mechanicsburg, PA
I know, Bob, that you and I have discussed this line, but I do want to make a few comments.
Here are a couple of other Levi Rices to throw in the hopper.
A Levi Rice born 1760, Vermont, is mentioned in the genealogy column of the Oct. 14, 1918 Boston Transcript. I have not seen the listing.
For years reader Marilyn Gagnon worked on the family of a Levi Rice who married Matilda McMichel in 1805 at Palmer, MA. She was trying to determine whether her Levi was Levi Rice born in 1770 at Petersham, MA, to Amos and Martha
Rice, or the Levi Rice listed in the 1800 census of Washington Co., NY. Sharing her ancestry was Hubert W. Sumner Jr., who found the next generation in Vermont and was trying to get the line back to Edmund-1.
I've previously mentioned the Rhode Island Rice family which lived in the same small community as your Rices. Even though the DNA test indicates Edmund-1 as the probable ancestor, I remain a wee bit skeptical. That Rhode Island family has a Francis and an Orrin B. Rice contemporary with those so named in your family.
There appear to be no DAR lines of descent from Levi of Brookfield, but you may want to try the SAR. That once worked for me on one of my ancestors.
I was a little surprised to see your Francis S. Rice listed in the 1850 census of McHenry, Illinois, with wife, Sarah, 32, and children Harry,9, Amanda, 7, Francis S., 5, and Oren B., 1.
Here's hoping you get help from our readers! ~ Rosemary
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Draw the Family Circle Wide, Then Draw It Wider Still
Share both the fruits of your genealogical labors
and the puzzling problems you encounter
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FIRST THREE VOLUMES AVAILABLE:
The Rice Book Project
BOOK 1: Celebrating Our Diversity
Biographies of dozens of Rice family members from different backgrounds, different decades and different branches of the family; also a directory of Rice Revolutionary War soldiers; 248 pages
BOOK 2: The Immigrants
Lists of immigrants for three centuries; early generations of the Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut branches of the family; chapters on English, Irish, Scottish and German Rice families; 258 pages.
BOOK 3: Connecticut & Tennessee Rice Lineages
This covers several branches of the Rice family and chronicles in detail descendants of Henry Rice, the pioneer gristmiller in Tennessee; 512 pages.
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BOOK 4: Pennsylvania and Maryland Rice Lineages
This is the book we are now working on.
Order books from the Rice Book Project Website.
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(The RICE FAMILY EZINE is sponsored
by the Rice Family Book Project)
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