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Your Rice Family Ezine
Generation by Generation ~ Century by Century
TWICE MONTHLY VOL. 2, NO. 8 April 24, 2009
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Medical Training a Century Ago
(Photo Courtesy of reader Kim Rop)
If you are squeamish, don't look too closely. There is a cadaver on the table. Dennis B. Rice and fellow 1905 students at the Kentucky School of Medicine are receiving instruction from Dr. Walter Spiva. Rice is the last person on the right. Their names are written on the side of the examining table. Beneath the names is written: "For of such is the realm of science." This picture certainly demonstrates how far medicine has come in one century!
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EDITOR'S NOTES:
This Dennis B. Rice is found in the 1910 census of Johnson Co., KY, as a physician, age 26, with his wife, Addie, and their son, Robert, 4. He is living next door to David Rice, 55, a retail store merchant, and his wife, Julia, 44, to whom he has been married for 19 years. (This would most likely be his second wife.)
We find David Rice in an earlier census with his son, Dennis. The 1880 census of Paintsville, KY, lists a David of the exact right age as a son of Samuel K. Rice, 54, and his wife, Elizabeth, 40. Elizabeth is too young to be the mother of the oldest child, Jesse, 32, and may not even be the mother of David or Samuel, 20, but appears to be the mother of the younger children Lydia, Mary J., Sheridan and Arminta.
The 1880 census says Samuel's father was born in Virginia and his mother in Kentucky.
A check of Mitchel Hall's 1928 history of Johnson County, Kentucky (which had more than 60 pages of Rice family genealogy) indicates that this is Samuel K. Rice, a Union soldier during the Civil War. He wed 1) _(?)_ Reed, 2) a Mrs. Adams, and 3) a _(?)_ Leek. Children to the first wife are Jesse, Nancy (m. James Rice), Kale, Samuel, Dave (m. a Price), William and Lydia. To his second wife, he had children Sheridan and Arminta ("Mintie"). Of these, Jesse, Samuel, Lydia, Sheridan and Mintie are listed in the 1880 census with our David as children of Samuel Rice. The Samuel in the Johnson County history would have been born in Virginia, as was the one in the census.
(Your editor is reluctant to follow this Rice line further back as there is substantial contradictory evidence on Samuel's parentage, although it is highly probable that he is a grandson of a John Rice from Virginia.)
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FOLLOWING UP
Much material in this issue is follow- up to material in the last two issues. It's good to pause awhile to network with each other. Keep sending mail and helping each other!
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IN THIS ISSUE
Medical Training a Century Ago:
Rice Students at Kentucky Medical Schools
Before 1908
Family of Willis and Julia (Rice) Harrawood of Hardin Co., IL, and Redlands, CA
Articles by Your Editor: Genealogy of Well Known People
More Fun for Root Diggers &
Branch Climbers:
Recognize Anyone on This List?
Southern Family Trees:
The Spencer Rice Family (VA/AL/TX)
Rice Cemetery, Fairview, Rockcastle Co., KY
Rices Who Died in Berks Co., PA
Our Spring Family Tree: How Many Ancestors
Do You Have?
Readers Helping Readers
with
Ancestors in
Georgia
Maryland
Pennsylvanis
&
South Carolina
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ARE THERE SPRING BUDS ON YOUR FAMILY TREE?
1) If you are not a male bearing the Rice surname, find a relative who is and have a DNA test done.
2) Send in the name of your earliest known Rice ancestor, giving at least one date and location, and we will try to match it with those families being researched by other readers. Email: ricebooksreb@yahoo.com
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BEFORE 1908
Earliest Rice Students
at Kentucky Medical Schools
Named below are the earliest Rice students at Kentucky Medical Schools. These 47 students all attended prior to 1908, the earliest being Francis A. Rice in 1840. The year given is for the first--and often only--year attended. The key denotes the school attended.
KEY: UL = University of Louisville
HCM = Hospital College of Medicine
KSM = Kentucky School of Medicine
KYU = Kentucky Univ. Medical Dept.
LMC = Louisville Medical College
RICE A T, KSM 1905
RICE A W, LMC 1896
RICE C B, HCM 1896*
RICE C B, HCM 1905#
RICE C E, KYU 1902
RICE C M, KYU 1903**
RICE CHARLES R, UL 1904
RICE CHARLES R JR, UL 1905#
RICE CHARLES ROTHE, UL 1906*
RICE CONRAD BAKER, HCM 1898
RICE D F, HCM 1891*
RICE DANIEL M, UL 1885
RICE DAVID B, UL 1841
RICE DENNIS B, KSM 1905**
RICE E E, HCM 1895*
RICE E V, HCM 1896
RICE EDGAR E, KSM 1895
RICE EDW N, UL 1892
RICE EDWARD N, UL 1893#
RICE ELI V, KSM 1893
RICE ELI VESTAL, KSM 1894#
RICE FRANCIS A, UL 1840*
RICE G, LMC 1902**
RICE G M, HCM 1892
RICE GEORGE H, UL 1889
RICE GEORGE M, HCM 1894
RICE GRANT, LMC 1901
RICE H H, UL 1846
RICE H J, HCM 1904
RICE J OWEN, UL 1888
RICE J V, LMC 1906
RICE J V, UL, 1908#
RICE JACOB H, UL 1848
RICE JAMES M, UL 1894
RICE JAMES O, UL 1887
RICE JAMES T, KSM 1888
RICE JOHN HENRY, HCM 1903
RICE L E, HCM 1901#
RICE L E, HCM 1898**
RICE LLEWELLYN, KSM 1853
RICE MARION, UL 1874
RICE MATHEW S, UL 1882
RICE N T, LMC 1886
RICE S P, LMC 1875*
RICE W A, LMC 1890
RICE W G, HCM 1895*
RICE W W, LMC 1897
# This may be the same person as
that named in an adjoining record * Attended two years
** Attended three years
If you have information about the family of any of the above Rices, please forward it to our ezine editor.
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Family of Willis & Julia (Rice) Harrawood
Julia A. Rice (1850-1934), mother of the family shown above, was born at Elizabethtown, Hardin Co., IL, and died at Redlands, CA. In 1871, Julia married Willis W. Harrawood (b. 1846, IL), son of Henry and Phoebe (Wheeler) Harrawood and grandson of William and Sarah (Taylor) Harrawood. His grandfather had come to Illinois from North Carolina.
Julia was the daughter of Tolliver G. and Elizabeth (Miller) Rice. Her father (1816-1889) came from Maury Co., TN, to Illinois. Tolliver Rice was the son of Abel and Lydia (Gholson) Rice and grandson of Ebenezer Rice* and his second wife, Ruth Eveleth. Abel Rice (1792-1846) was born in Vermont, married in Woodford Co., KY, and setled in White Co., IL.
Ebenezer Rice (1756-1831) was born in Shrewsbury, MA, and died at Hubbardston, MA. His line can be traced back to the immigrant, Edmund Rice, who settled at Sudbury, MA in 1638, as follows: Ebenezer-5 Rice (Elijah-4, Elisha-3, Thomas-2, Edmund-1) ,
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* Ebenezer Rice, a Revolutionary War veteran, went to Tennessee as a Baptist missionary to work among the Indians. A story about him, which lists many more family members, is in Rice Book 3: Tennessee and Connecticut Family Lineages.
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ARTICLES BY YOUR EDITOR
The Genealogy of Well Known People
Most people are bound to share ancestors with some of these well-known government officials. Their ancestry covers almost the entire spectrum of colonial America's people. Surprisingly, Barack Obama has more American ancestors than Hillary Clinton, who has a large dose of French Canadian ancestry.
Enjoy!
DOZENS OF SURNAMES--NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST
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FOR FELLOW ROOT DIGGERS & BRANCH CLIMBERS
Recognize Anyone on This List?
You know you're a genealogist's spouse when:
- You're the only person in the bridge club who knows what a Soundex is.
- It's only a few miles down the road means 50 (at least).
- Some of your best friends live 200 miles away.
- You have more pictures of tombstones than of your grandchilden.
- "I need a little help at the courthouse" means forget the cleaning, washing, dinner and chores; the day is shot.
- The mailman can't believe you get this much mail from people you don't know.
- You explain to mother why you can't go 25 miles for Sunday dinner, but can go 300 miles to check out another cemetery.
- "As soon as I check out this census record, I'll fix the leaky faucet" means "call the plumber!"
- You get home from a "quick" trip to the State Archives and the car needs gas, dishes and clothes need washing and the bills and a lawnmower greet you.
- There are three computers in the house, only one works well and you only have access to it when someone else is taking a shower, walking the dogs or holed up at the nearest genealogy library.
- Your neighbors think you are crazy, your friends wonder,
- and your family is sure you are.
(Version of a list in The Connecticut Nutmegger, Vol. 22, No. 2, September, 1989.)
My family coat of arms ties at the back.
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SOUTHERN FAMILY TREES
Spencer Rice Family
(Follow-up to last Issue's Column and separate article with three biographies of Alabama Rices)
Rosemary,
The Kogers there in the Paint Rock, AL area are Rice descendants. Charles Cagle Koger married Cinthe Rice, daughter of Rev. William Rice (1784-1864) of Parmleyville, Wayne County, Kentucky...They were in Franklin County, TN for a while where several of their children married, then moved down into the Paint Rock area. Not sure if there's a connection or not between the Francis Rice family from whom Cinthe descends, and Spencer's family there in Paint Rock, but who knows? I do not know if any male descendant of Spencer's has taken the Rice DNA test through www.familytreeDNA.com or not. Our Francis Rice family is Group 9.
This family's descendancy is as follows:
Francis Rice (c.1690-1711 - abt 1771 Prince Edward Co. VA) + Sarah Womack (c.1712 - bef. 1803 Prince Edw. Co. VA)
..........Abraham Rice (c.1743 - 1816-1820 Carter Co. TN) + (possibly) Martha Ann "Patsy" Hansford Hill. Will of John Moore Sr. was witnessed by Abraham and "Ann" Rice in Orange Co. NC in 1775. Parents of Abraham Rice Jr. who married Elizabeth Stapp in Adair Co. KY in 1802 given as Abraham Rice Sr. and Patsy Hill. I believe them to be the same Abraham Rice Sr.
..............Rev. William Rice (1784 VA - murdered by Confederates November 1864 Parmleyville, Wayne county, KY); forget his wife's name.
.....................Cinthe Rice + Charles Cagle Koger, married Wayne Co, KY. Settled Franklin County, TN and Paint Rock, AL. She died at 106 years of age about 1919.
Also, some of my Judd family moved down there too, and homesteaded Putnam Mountain, which is near Scottsboro, AL. This was Christopher Columbus Judd, brother to my great-grandmother Leitha Catherine (Judd) Rice-Hickey (1877 - 1941 Putnam Co., TN). Putnam Mountain was named after Putnam County, TN, where several of the families who homesteaded there in the early 1900's came from.
LETTER FROM READER:
"I would be most grateful if you would share with me some documented information you possess which proves that Carter Harrison Rice, b. in AL, was a descendant of a William Rice who, with his three sons, George, William, and Spencer came from Ireland in colonial times to America...
"I would appreciate your sharing with me how you know George, William, and Spencer were brothers? Do you know their wives or other siblings? Do you know who their mother may have been or how they got to America? What is your documentation that Spencer was born in Maryland? Do you have names of his children and /or his wife...
" I am not familiar with William Foster and would appreciate his e-mail address."
Best, Lynn W. Melberg, Ed.D.
LYNN--
Sources for those three biographies of Rices in Alabama are those listed with the article. I can't make a value judgement on the ones by Moore and Owens, but Pauline Gandrud is recognized as a highly credible genealogist. She published many of Alabama's earliest records. In this case, her account corroborates some of the other two accounts.
I always take with a grain of salt those tales of "...and three brothers came to America, one settled at......." They crop up in dozens of surnames. You are right to insist on documentation for this.
Here are some possible documentation sources:
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There appears to be an original handwritten record pertaining to Spencer Rice's Revolutionary War service at this website. This is a subscription website, but you can pay for an individual record. Perhaps someone with a subscription would download this record and forward it to you.
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Joseph Rice, alleged son of Spencer, said in the 1880 census (when he was age 83) that his father was born in NJ. He is then living in the family of his daughter, Sophia (Rice) Walker.
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Othniel Rice, 84 (alleged son of Spencer Rice) says in the 1880 census that he and both his parents were born in North Carolina. (There are about 155 Rices in this census of Madison Co.)
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Children of the Spencer Rice who served in the Revolutionary War are believed to be Aaron, William, George (b. 1807), Laban (1785-1853), Levi (1802-1881), Othniel (1796-1884) and Joseph (1797-1883). Birth, marriage and death records need to be searched to document these relationships.
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The Joseph Rice obituary appeared in the Huntsville Democrat sometime in February of 1883 and may give you leads to pursue.
I have contacted a researcher who gives Maryland as Spencer's place of birth and asked him what evidence his conclusion is based upon. I have also contacted an experienced genealogist who lives in New Market to see if he can locate any Spencer Rice descendants there who still bear the Rice surname and would be willing to take a simple DNA test. (He descends from Spencer, but it is a maternal line way, way back.)
The projected Irish ancestry of Spencer Rice is not, to my knowledge, documented. The southern Irish line most known goes back to Richard Rice, son of Dominick Rice of Ireland.
The names of submitters to the query edition are linked, at the end of the query, to their email. In case you don't still have that issue, this is William Foster.
If you would like to circulate a memo to Joseph Rice descendants asking for DNA test subjects and documented info on Spencer Rice & family, let me know. I can probably give you contact info for a dozen or more of them.
Rosemary
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Rice Cemetery, Fairview,Rockcastle County, Kentucky
RICE, Arthur S. (Sept. 2, 1890 - June 14, 1969) and Lillie (April 1, 1892 - April 23, 1971)
RICE, Clayton H. (May 30, 1914 - May 9, 1935)
RICE, Darel Orwin (Born and died June 25, 1947), son of Wendell & Marie Rice.
RICE, Eugene (Jan. 1, 1916 - May 10, 1997)
RICE, Eugene (Jan. 1, 1916 - May 10, 1997), U.S. Army, World War II
RICE, Orrin (May 9, 1922 - 1944), Kentucky, PFC Infantry, World War II (dates may not be correct; grass and weeds cover part of inscription)
RICE, Paul L. (June 5, 1952 - May 24, 1970)
RICE, Pvt. J. Ervin Rice (Sept. 24, 1894 - Oct.10, 1918) and Gertrude Rice (Feb. 15, 1899 - )
RICE. Rev. William N. (born Apr. 25, 1850- Died Aug.--. 1935?) and Judy Rice, HIs Wife (Feb. 2, 1856 - Dec. 10, 193-?). (This inscription difficult to read)
RICE, Wendell (July 4, 1920 - June 10, 2002) and Marie Ward (Feb. 25, 1928 - ) married Aug. 24, 1946.
Other surnames of people buried in the Rice Cemetery: Alcorn, Anglin, Brinegar, Dixon, Hall, Hayes, Holmes, Isaac/Isaacs, McKnight, Peters, Powell, Roberts and Winn.
(This is from a website featuring several Kentucky cemeteries. It was compiled by sisters Jennifer Kidwell Fish & Sheila Kidwell. Permission to use pictures given by Jennifer.)
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Rices Who Died in Berks Co., Pennsylvania
Last Name First Name Date of Death Record Number
Rice Fietta 12/9/1887, # 1146
Rice William 3/4/1881, # 173
Rice Eliza S. 6/24/1878, # 368
Rice Peter 11/20/1880, # 790
Rice Catharine 3/22/1889, # 271
Rice Christopher C. 8/20/1873, # 132
Rice Chas. F. 11/19/1877, # 871
Rice Mary 1/19/1882, # 52
Rice James 12/3/1897,# 1210
Rice Mrs. Frank 6/22/1904, # 884
Rice John H. 11/24/1894, # 1351
Rice Mabel 10/14/1895, # 1118
Rice Lewis 2/23/1891, # 195
Rice William 4/21/1892, # 439
Rice Raymond 5/8/1894
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HOW MANY ANCESTORS DO YOU HAVE?
Only
1 YOU
2 parents
4 grandparents
8 great grandparents
16 gg grandparents
32 ggg grandparents
64 gggg grandparents
128 ggggg grandparents
256 gggggg grandparents
512 ggggggg grandparents
1,024 gggggggg grandparents
2,048 ggggggggg grandparents
4,096 gggggggggg grandparents
8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents
16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents
32,768 ggggggggggggg grandparents
65,536 gggggggggggggg grandparents
131,072 ggggggggggggggg grandparents
262,144 gggggggggggggggg grandparents
524,288 ggggggggggggggggg grandparents
1,048,576 gggggggggggggggggg grandparents
2,097,152 ggggggggggggggggggg grandparents
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IIIII
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Is it any wonder that we spend so much time on genealogy?
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Readers Helping Readers
ATTENTION KATIE FAY:
Another reader read your ezine query and thinks he might be able to help. Reader Adam Rice says he, too, has an ancestor named Charles Homer Rice. If your Charles Homer Rice is descended from, or related to, a Charles Donald Rice who was twice married (first to Theresa J. Jamison), he can help you. His Charles owned property in Knoxville, MD, and was married to Addie C. Carmack.
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LOOKING FOR REITZ/RICE LINE IN PENNSYLVANIA
Am looking for Stephen Reitz (Rice), b. 1814 PA, wife Hannah Sheets, age 29 (1821). Was living in Union Twp, Mifflin Co. PA on the 29th Aug 1850 with my grandfather John, age 2, and his sister Lavina, age 4. John said he had a brother named Charles as well, who came to California where John Wesley went to live. Marjorie Braswell, 354 Crawford Mill Lane,Grovetown,GA 30813
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NETWORKING UNDERWAY
In our query edition we had back-to-back queries by Carole Melson and Eve Royce, both looking for Rice families in South Carolina's Barnwell District. They have since been exchanging data on the Rice Southern email list. I told Carole in a note at the end of her query that if she gave me more info I would try to help. Following is her additional info, plus my response.
FROM CAROLE MELSON TO ROSEMARY:
The person whom I am researching is Clarissa (nickname: Clarkie) Rice Cotton-Smith-Davis. Clarkie was born in 1811 in the Old Barnwell District of South Carolina. (She had a sister by the name of Ann Ellen who married a Samuel H. Morrell and she also was born in the Old Barnwell District of South Carolina in 1808.) After her birth Clarkie shows up in my research in Darien, Georgia (McIntosh County, GA) when she had a son born in 1831. His name is Charles G. Cotton. After her birth, Ann Ellen Morrell shows up in my research in Savannah, GA when she was appointed a delegate to the Southern Baptist Convention by the First (Savannah) Baptist Church, Savannah, GA, in 1832. Clarkie then married a John Y. Smith in Savannah, GA on 3 December 1836. Her last marriage was on 10 February 1842 in Savannah, GA to George Davis. These two sisters were obviously very close because they lived near each other for most of their lives. Clarkie's son, Charles G. Cotton, fought in the American Civil War and was a property overseer in Effingham County, GA and Clarkie lived there also in 1860. Clarkie moved back to Savannah, GA and her will is recorded in Chatham County/Savannah, GA. Both she and her sister, Ann Ellen, are buried in the Laurel Grove Cemetery in Savannah, GA. Charles G. Cotton and his last wife are also buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery. It is thought by members of my family that both Ann Ellen and Clarkie were members of a Baptist Church in Walthourville/Liberty County, GA prior to the Amercian Civil War; but the churches were burned during that war and any records that may have been in existence are no longer extant.
FROM ROSEMARY TO CAROLE:
Were either Clarkie or Ann Ellen still alive in 1880 so I can check the census and see what they named as state of birth for their parents? I find Ann Morrell, 62, in the 1870 census of Savannah and it appears that a daughter of Clarkie, named Mary Cotton, age 36, is living with her. Ann's husband may have beeen killed in the war because I have a note that she filed with the Southern Claims Commission. I have access to those records and will try to get a list of the Rice claims in the next issue of the ezine...while at it, I will look for Ann Morrell's claim. I also see that Ann's daughter, Sarah Hood, 29, with her two daughters, was living with her when the 1860 census was taken. It notes that Sarah was born at Darien in McIntosh Co.
Looks like Clarkie was a strong woman and a survivor! Her personal worth and property value were quite high for it being so soon after the war. She was running a wagon hauling business and making enough money to pay not only the drivers, but also a bookkeeper.
Regarding the Thomas Rice you discussed with Eve: The age at death indicates he would have been born about 1761, which would make him a bit young to have been a Rev. War capt., although it is not impossible. I believe the DAR Patriot Index lists the Thomas Rice who wed 1) Penelope Justis in 1776 and 2) Elizabeth Dews, as being born in 1752. Also, if he were born about 1761 he would have been marrying Penelope at about age 15. I'm wondering if someone has combined two different Thomas Rices into one. I have the Christ Church, Philadelphia, marriages, but don't see either of his among them. In the preceding generation there were men named Thomas Rees/Reese married there in 1720 and 1728. Most of these parishioners had variant Welsh spellings of the surname.
Will see if I can drag out some more South Carolina Rice data in the next couple of weeks.
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WELCOME ABOARD TO NEW READERS
I would appreciate receiving the Rice Newsletter via email. My maternal grandfather was Charlie Rice of Georgia. I am having a difficult time finding his father, John W Rice or William Rice. Thank you. Wanda Browning. ________
New Subscriber e-mail address Date Added: 3/11/2009 Demographic Response(s): First Name: Kitten Last Name: Rice State: Tennessee Who is your earliest known Rice ancestor? (Give at least one date & place if possible.): Robert Rice, 1923, Knoxville, TN How many years have you been researching your ancestry?: 1
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Draw the Family Circle Wide, Then Draw It Wider Still
Share both the fruits of your genealogical labors
and the puzzling problems you encounter
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Draw the Family Circle Wide, Then Draw It Wider Still
Share both the fruits of your genealogical labors
and the puzzling problems you encounter
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FIRST THREE VOLUMES AVAILABLE:
The Rice Book Project
BOOK 1: Celebrating Our Diversity
Biographies of dozens of Rice family members from different backgrounds, different decades and different branches of the family; also a directory of Rice Revolutionary War soldiers; 248 pages
BOOK 2: The Immigrants
Lists of immigrants for three centuries; early generations of the Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut branches of the family; chapters on English, Irish, Scottish and German Rice families; 258 pages.
BOOK 3: Connecticut & Tennessee Rice Lineages
This covers several branches of the Rice family and chronicles in detail descendants of Henry Rice, the pioneer gristmiller in Tennessee; 512 pages.
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This is the book we are now working on.
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