WINTER QUERY EDITION 
 
 
Your Rice Family Ezine
 
Generation by Generation    ~     Century by Century
 
TWICE MONTHLY                    VOL. 2, NO. 5-6                         MARCH 20, 2009
 
 
Special Double Issue
 
  ~ Rice DNA Project - Rice Genealogy Queries ~
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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 IN THIS ISSUE
 
 
READER QUESTIONS ABOUT DNA TESTING
 
DNA TEST GROUPS
 
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and Welcome to
 
       Our First Winter Query Edition!
 
Accompanying the reader queries that are the backbone of this issue are some old pictures of Rices,  some winter artwork, plus information on the Rice DNA Project, which is helping Rice descendants rule out some ancestors and rule in the correct ones.  How wonderful that new technology can do this!
 
For the query issue to be successful enough to do another one in the summer, two things have to happen:
1) It would be desirable to have more people submit queries.

2) It is essential that readers who can help other readers by answering their queries do so.

Answers are the goal!
 
We begin with the DNA Project and include an overview which indicates just how varied and widespread the branches of the Rice family are. 
 
 
Henry Rice KY
 
 
1927 BOARD OF EDUCATION, HOPKINSVILLE, KENTUCKY
(At far right in the middle row is Henry Rice.)
 
 
 
Readers' Questions
About DNA Testing
 
As  Larry has never had his DNA tested,  we'll have to check this out. I assume we would send the report to you?

We arrived in Mission, Texas last Friday for a three month stay for our health.  I'll try and check this need for a DNA test here in Texas, but it may be we can't have the test done until we return home the first week in April.   LARRY & DOROTHY RICE
 
All arrangements are made through the Edmund Rice Association, sponsor of the Rice DNA test.  Their website address is given at the end of this section of our newsletter.  I would be happy to know the results, but that is completely up to your discretion.
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How do I look @ the DNA list for Results of Rice Participants from Madison Co NC ?   I'd like to email the participant since my father in law was Oliver Rice of Madison Co., Big Laurel & Spill Corn. Grandson of Spencer Rice and Jane Wallin.  WILLIAM L. FOSTER
 
As you will see below, there is no way to arrange DNA results by geographical region.  The groupings are by an entire branch of the family.  In most instances the immigrant ancestor settled on the eastern seaboard and successive generations moved westward.  There was, after the Revolutionary War, a large migration "over the mountains" into such states as New York, Kentucky and Tennessee.  A couple of generations later, some descendants again moved westward, this time into such states as Michigan, Indiana, Iowa and Missouri. 
 
Your interest is in North Carolina.  During the colonial era there were at least five unrelated branches of the Rice family in North Carolina. Some belong to families that earlier lived in Virginia.  Descendants of some North Carolina Rices began moving westward into Tennessee and other states at the end of the 1700s.
 
You will find in this issue a query by Lynn Melberg, who descends from a Spencer Rice who died in 1808 in Madison Co., Alabama.  He or his parents could have come from North Carolina, but Lynn believes the family originally lived in Virginia.
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We have DNA tests results from a paternity test.  Are these sufficient to use when tying to find a Rice family branch connection?  Thanks, 
JOHN C. RICE
 
They may be equivalent to the basic test used in genealogical testing, but this is not my field of expertise.  Your best bet is to check with Bob Rice, whose email address is below.
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Rosemary, What direction can you suggest for me with the Rice DNA group 4, especially with some in NC, TN and KY.  As you may recall, my line is from John Henry Rice, Bedford Co. TN (1828-1912), parents born in VA.  Did I mention that I now think the William C. Rice in Bedford Co. on the 1850 census and later in AR. may be a brother of my John Henry Rice?  Roger and Carol Landers roger58@gate.net
 
Below, under Rice DNA Group 4, you can see who some of the Group 4 test subjects are.  You may want to compare notes with them.  These lines have to merge somewhere!  Other than that--and continuing your own research--the message is the same for everybody:  Hang on, be patient and urge other Rice researchers to have a DNA test!
 
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A Frustrating Process

I am very frustrated by the way the DNA results are presented for the Southern Rice group.  I don't want to be critical of other volunteers, but it's impossible to tell anything of use to us when we're trying to see who has tested and who is related to whom.  We can't tell how many people have tested and who is descended from whom.

For my several DNA projects, I keep the kit number, the results and a mini  genealogy in a spreadsheet.  It is confidential, as the names of the participants aren't in there, but when someone wants to know who has tested and if they match, it's easy to send this.
 
I often keep another column with e-mail addresses that I do not provide unless people want others to contact them.

The mini-genealogy for each person is very short and consists of the following for each paternal ancestor,  beginning with the person's parents or grandparents (not living people): 
Ancestor's name
Birth and death dates
Birth and death location
Spouse's name
(Name withheld because I received this second hand)
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Can you please send me more information on this DNA service for the Rice family connections, etc... Thanks.   SCOTT RICE

 
IT'S THIS EASY:

ORDER A DNA KIT

WHEN IT COMES, WIPE INSIDE YOUR CHEEK WITH THE SWAB

SEND THE SAMPLE BACK FOR TESTING

 
For detailed information on the RICE DNA PROJECT, go to 
the report of The Edmund Rice Association, sponsor of the project.  You can also email Bob Rice, project coordinator.
 
 
Anybody Know These Folks?
 
Rice reunion PA
 
THIS PICTURE, TAKEN SOMEWHERE IN PENNSYLVANIA, SEEMS TO FEATURE A FAMILY REUNION. 
 
Shown are:  Back row L to R: Sam Poet, Walter Trastle, Beatrice Howard, Clara Rice, Dennis Rice, Louella Hawkins, Clara Nickles, Aunt Lina Howard, Aunt Laura Trastle, Cora Howard Witmer, Aunt Ora Howard, Aunt Sadie holding Richard, Uncle Harry Bertram Howard, Uncle Edwin P. Howard, Frank Howard (boy in front of H.B.H.) Middle Row: Nora Nickles Howard, Walter Trastle, Arie Howard Zellars. Bottom Row: George Zellers, Edwin Howard (child), Dwight Howard, Sara Howard (child), Jean Howard, Morris Howard, Bertha Howard, Nell Heim, Harry Howard (child) . 
 
 
 Rice DNA Groups
 
 
The largest category in the DNA Groups (99) is that of test subjects whose ancestral group has not been identified because their tests don't match those of anyone else.  It happens that the largest group of reader queries is the same.  This, of course, points out how much remains unknown about the numerous unrelated branches of the Rice family in North America.   It also emphasizes how important the Rice DNA project is.  It holds the promise of answers that hundreds of Rice descendants want to know. 
 
The Rice DNA Project was initiated by the Deacon Edmund Rice (1638) Association.  If you have questions about it, please direct them to Bob Rice to see if he has any data that would help you. Bob and others working on this project have spent endless hours and pooled expertise to present the results and explain some of the anomalies that occur in DNA testing.  In so doing, they have been of outstanding and remarkable assistance to Rice family researchers in the very diverse and unrelated branches of the Rice family. 
 
The italicized remarks are those of your editor.  Tests results for the Rice DNA Project are anonymous in that each person tested is assigned a kit number and not identified by name when results are compiled.  The Edmund Rice Association has received and studied on-paper lineages for willing test subjects and so knows who these people are.  Likewise, your Rice Ezine editor--and people with whom she corresponds--have worked on these lines for many years and been provided information by several DNA test subjects.
  
 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 1 
  
DNA GROUP 1
(Edmund Rice, ca. 1594, Eng. - 1663, MA)  
 
Group 1 consists of male-line descendants of Edmund Rice of Sudbury and Marlborough, who came from England in 1638. The first group studied, it remains the largest.  Those first tested were known to be Edmund's descendants.  More recently, many of those tested have not known who their colonial Rice ancestors were.  Often, the documented paper pedigree was researched following the DNA testing which identified the proper branch of the Rice family.
 
Although all those tested to date claim Edmund as a common ancestor, that could change in the future if descendants  of Edmund's male siblings or Rice cousins are tested.  Indeed, that might help identify the ancestry of Edmund.
 
Two anomalies have been discovered in this group and are mentioned here with the notation  that such phenomena could occur in any branch of the family. First, some early descendants of Edmund were captured--and raised--by Indians.  Descendants may bear other surnames.  Some of those families have been traced to the present generation.  Second, an early member of Edmund's family changed his surname to King, the result being that there are people named King who test as descendants of Edmund which, of course, they are. 
 
 
NOTE: A summary of the first three generations of descent from Edmund-1 Rice is found in Rice Book 2, The Immigrants.   A more in depth summary listing more generations is on the Edmund Rice Association website.
 
 
 RICE DNA GROUP 2
  
GROUP 2 (Miscellaneous close matches))
 
Group 2 was first created because of a single sample with a lesson to teach. Similar cases surfaced later and were added to this group even though they may not be related to each other. They differ by only one step at one locus in the basic DNA test.  When, however, the test is expanded by 13 loci, it is apparent that there is no close relationship between the test subject's Rice ancestor and Edmund (above).  Now, when subjects test close to one of the established groups, expanded tests are recommended.    This criteria has caused placement of others in this group--at least until test results of other subjects indicate a new group should be formed.
 
EDITOR'S NOTES: I know the following about test subjects in this group. One descends from a Thomas Rice, b. ca. 1800, NC; one descends from Nathaniel Rice (d. 1753), a colonial governor of NC; one has the Royce surname, but does not match with anyone, including Group 3; one descends from War of 1812 vet Lemuel Rice of Virginia; one descends from a James Rice of Wilkes Co., GA; one has traced his line to a presumed German immigrant named Reiss whose name was Americanized to Rice in 1840. Most people in this group would be moved to different groups from each other if more subjects were tested.  In a sense, they should be regarded the same as those test subjects placed in Group 99.
 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 3
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GROUP 3
(Robert Royce, ca. 1606, Eng. - 1676, CT)  
 
Group 3 members descend from Robert Royce of New London, CT.  Five of them have on-paper pedigrees, seven test subjects are working to document their Rice lineage, and another seven lack documentation.  Three others had incorrectly thought they descended from Edmund Rice (Group 1).   
 
NOTE: A 12-page article on the Robert Royce family appears in Rice Book 2, The Immigrants (see ad at bottom of newsletter).

 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 4
 
 
GROUP 4
(One of several Virginia Rice groups) 
 
Group 4 was created based on exact matches at 12 loci for three samples, now grown to 21.  There are some group members that are exact matches on the expanded test using 25 loci.  Having more proven lineages will tie down relationships between some of the others in this group.  More expanded test results are needed to clarify sub groups among the descendants of this particular Virginia Rice family.
 
In this case it has been possible to identify descendants without knowing who the comon ancestor is.   Nine test subjects have their genealogy back to Virginia ancestors, but others only go back to known ancestors in Kentucky or the Carolinas who, no doubt, have Virginia Rice ancestors.  You will see below that there are distinctly different groups, each with varying Rice ancestry, in Virginia at an early date.  

EDITOR'S NOTES:  Of these test subjects, one descends from
Christopher Columbus Rice of Richmond, KY;  one descends from Edward Rice (d. 1770) of Goochland Co., VA, through his son Charles (b. 1715) and grandson Charles of Bath Co., KY, then Campbell Rice of Carter Co., KY; one descends from Holman Rice, son of Charles, grandson of Charles (b. 1715) and g-grandson of Edward Rice (d. 1770) of Goochland Co., VA; one descends from Charles Rice (b. 1839), son of James Rice of Madison Co., KY; one descends from William Rice who m. Esther Chounan, 1793, Caswell Co., NC; one is g-g-grandson of Humphrey Posey Rice (b. ca. 1816, SC, and moved to Cherokee Co., GA); one descends from James Rice and Alice Hix of Logan Co., KY; one  descends from Jesse Rice, who died in Shelby Co., KY, before 1840; and, one descends from  William Campbell Rice, b. 1823, Lawrence Co., KY.  MOST OF THESE TEST SUBJECTS BELIEVE THEMSELVES TO DESCEND FROM THOMAS RICE OF VIRGINIA AND HIS WIFE MARCY.


 
 
 RICE DNA GROUP 5
 
GROUP 5
(A different Virginia Rice group) 
 
Early on it seemed that these test subjects, DNA linked with shared ancestry, descended from a William Rice born ca. 1756.  Later test subjects, however, descend from contemporaries of this William Rice who are possibly his brothers or Rice cousins.
 
More test subjects might help discern how two of the subgroups are related to each other.  Some members of this group descend from Rice families that were in Carter Co., KY, and some descend from a James Rice who died in Ohio in 1844, when he is believed to have been well over 100 years old.
 
EDITOR'S NOTES: Three descend from Archibald Rice (1795-1864) of VA and Carter Co., KY; one descends from Elijah Rice (1787-1860) of VA and Carter Co., KY; one descends from Thomas Rice, b. 1811, VA, m. Sarah Cox and d. aft. 1880, Grainger Co. TN; one descends from James Monroe Rice, b. 1803, m. Sally Hedrick in Blount Co., TN; one descends from Sherrod Rice, b. 1805, VA, and d. ca. 1864, Carter Co., KY; one descends from Mathias Rice (1801-1843) of Lawrence Co., KY; and, one descends from Ezekiel Rice, b. 1777, Wythe Co., VA, son of James and Elinor. This may be the James Rice (1724-1844?) who died in Gallia Co., OH.  Jim Rice is a researcher of this line.
 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 6 
 
GROUP 6
(James Rice, ca. 1740-1817, Loudon Co,, VA)
  
This third Virginia group has only three representatives so far and includes only 12-locus tests, but it seems to be well documented all the way.  Expanded tests might place Rices in this group close to Rices in another group.
 
EDITOR'S NOTES: James had two wives, the first unidentified and the second perhaps being Bethany Oxley.  He had five children by each wife. If you think you belong to this line, contact William P. Rice of Rowlett, TX, who has researched it for a long time.  

 
 RICE DNA GROUP 7
 
 
GROUP 7
(Henry Rice, the Tennessee Gristmiller) 
This fourth southern Rice group keeps growing.  Earliest known ancestors of test subjects are from Kentucky, Tennessee and North Carolina.  Additional testing is needed because those tested were not randomly picked.
 
Three other men were also in Group 7, but extension of the tests to include more markers has shown that the relationship is too distant to fit in this group and they are now in Group 7-A (below).
 
EDITOR'S NOTES: At least two members of this group descend from Henry Rice (1717-1818), known as the Tennessee gristmiller.  (More than 200 pages listing his descendants appear in RICE BOOK 3. Ordering info is at the end of this newsletter.)  None of the other test subjects in this group list ancestors born before Henry, but some could possibly descend from siblings of Henry (which have not yet been identified) or from his Rice cousins.  Some of the ancestors listed by these other test subjects are:  John Rice, d.1834, Madison CO, AL; Thomas Manson Rice, b. 1828,  Hawkins Co., TN, and  d. aft. 1900, Whitley CO, KY; John L. Rice, b. ca 1800, SC; Reuben Rice, b. ca. 1776 and m. Lydia Shaner ca. 1800, Hawkins Co., TN; William Littleton Rice, b.1836, AR & possibly kin to Reuben Rice of TN.
 

 
RICE DNA GROUP 7-A 
 
GROUP 7-A
(Another Southern Rice Family)
 
This group was originally thought to be part of Group 7, but further testing has shown the two groups to be separate.   Some rather unusual aspects of test results resulted in retesting with independent analysis of results for the three subjects.  We will probably continue to hear about this group.
 
EDITOR'S NOTES:  Two test subjects in this group descend from  a Richard Rice b. between 1770-1780 and d. 1841, Elbert Co., GA; another descends from Benajah Rice, d. 1819, Boone Co., KY, a son of William Rice who d. 1789, Culpepper Co., VA.
 
 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 8 
 
 
 
GROUP 8
(David Rice of Weymouth, MA)  
 
This group descends from the Rices of Weymouth, MA, who are now confirmed to be unrelated to all the other known Rice/Royce lines. Note: it was a member of this family who founded Rice University. There are now near-matches with two other Rices who have a closer match with each other.  More test results might clarify how close the relationships are.   

 
RICE DNA GROUP 9 
 
 
GROUP 9
(Another Virginia Rice family)
 
Many members of this group are exact matches.  Two subgroups of three haplotypes each match among themselves exactly. Four haplotypes differ from what seems to be the ancestral pattern only at one locus in DYS464. Eight subjects match each other far more closely following expanded tests than they do anyone else in the project and their differences are consistent with a common ancestor within a genealogical time frame. One participant's results place him in Group 9, but he tests quite close to group 5; his surname is shown as Reece, instead of Rice. Finding a documented genealogical link or a provable name spelling change would help firm up a connection, but it remains possible that the link is an ancient one dating back before the adoption of surnames.
 
One other member has been tentatively added to this group on the basis of an exact 12/12 match. Again, like all the rest of Group 9, this one is only one step away from some members of Group 5, and this  assignment needs a 25-marker comparison for confirmation.
 
EDITOR'S NOTES: Two test subjects descend from William B. Rice Sr., b. 1794, NC, one through his son, William Jr. of White/Putnam Co., TN, the other through son John B. Rice (b. 1834), also of White/Putnam Co., TN; another test subject descends from an Abraham Rice, b. ca. 1745 and m. a Miss Hastings; one test subject descends from a William Rice married in 1808 in Wayne Co., KY; another test subject descends from a John Thomas Rice (1783-1839) through son Alexander Bell Rice, b. 1859, Prince Edward Co., VA, and d. 1932, Dunbar, WV; one test subject descends from Isham Rice (d. 1804, Rowan Co., NC), whose mother was Sarah Womack (ca. 1713-bef. 1803), daughter of Thomas and Mary (Farley) Womack; another test subject descends from Francis Rice (ca. 1711-ca.1770) who wed Sarah Womack, with a line that includes the Thomas Rice (b. 1785) of Prince Edward Co., VA, who m. Susannah Biggers in 1807; there is also a descendant of a John Reece, born 1822, TN.
 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 10 
 
GROUP 10
(Rices from Maryland)  
Although two members of this group match each other only 24/25, they have family history claiming their g-g-g-grandfathers were brothers. 
 
EDITOR's NOTES: One test subject descends from a Joseph Rice (b. 1765, MD) through his son James (b. 1797, MD) and in a line that continues via James Monroe Rice (b. 1836, OH) and William Jefferson Rice (b. 1863, KY); another test subject is believed to be a descendant of the same Joseph Rice (b. 1765, MD), but by way of his son Jesse; another test subject descends from Benjamin Rice who m. Parnel Hook, 1782, Frederick Co., MD.
  
 
RICE DNA GROUP 11
 
 
GROUP 11
(Joseph Rice, 1800-1874, TN/AR)
   
This group has a perfect 25/25 match and genealogies pointing to a common ancestor in Tennessee.
 
EDITOR'S NOTE: Both test subjects descend from Joseph Rice (b. 1794) who m. Mary Miller, 1819, Rhea Co., TN. 
 
 
  
RICE DNA GROUP 12
 
 
Group 12
(John G. W. Rice, born ca. 1807, Jefferson Co, TN)
 
This group, like Group 11 above, also has a perfect 25/25 match and genealogies pointing to  common Tennessee ancestry. This was the first  group to spring from the cluster of unmatched, but similar, haplotypes in Group 2. As such, the members have some near-matches in Group 2, and even in other groups. For example, there is a member of Group 17 who is only three steps away from Group 12 in a 25-marker comparison.  This test subject's researched genealogy does not suggest any connection.  

 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 13
 
 
GROUP 13
(Samuel R. Rice, b. 1744, Virginia)
 
This group's common ancestor, Samuel Rice, may be the son of another Samuel.  Descendants of two of his sons have been tested; three descendants have results for 25 loci. The three descendants of the eldest son agree with each other, but a descendant of the younger son differs on one locus. Although it is more likely that the three in agreement represent the ancestral haplotype, ideally the same value for the differing locus should be identified in a descendant of another son.  
  
 
RICE DNA GROUP 14
 
 
GROUP 14
(Rices of Rices Landing, PA)
 
This group broke away from Group 2 after a third match was found.  The members all have Pennsylvania ancestry, but no documentation linking them to a common ancestor.   There is a 25/25 match among them. 
 
 
RICE DNA GROUP 15
 
 
GROUP 15
(Rices of Rhode Island) 
 
The members of this group have a haplotype that belongs to a cluster commonly found in northwestern Ireland, but there is no conventional evidence pointing beyond the immediate origins of this group in Rhode Island.
 
EDITOR'S NOTE:  (See Rice Book 2: The Immigrants, which has a chapter on the Rhode Island Rices. Ordering information is at the bottom of this newsletter.)
 
 
DNA GROUP 16 
 
GROUP 16
(William Rice of Fauquier Co, VA)  

The members of this group are a very close match (36/37) and relationship is supported by some genealogical research that requires further documentation.  One of these Rices tests as having a close match to the Fletcher family in that area of Virginia.  This could be based upon a name change or a common ancestor before surnames were adopted.  Testing on additional markers might provide more information.  

 
 
 
DNA GROUP 17
 
 
GROUP 17
(Samuel Rice of Dedham, MA, and Woodstock, CT)   

This is yet another group that is close to the pool of similar, but evidently unrelated, haplotypes in Group 2.  It has taken five years for a matching test subject to come along. The common ancestor of Group 17, Samuel Rice, is believed to be the son of Massachusetts immigrant John Rice of Dedham, who married there in 1649. Since John Rice had another son who raised a family, there is a good possibility that we can extend the group back one generation by testing a descendant of the other son. This would have the added benefit of producing the first real evidence of a connection between John and Samuel (beyond the mere fact of living in the same town).  

 
 
DNA GROUP 18
 
 
 
GROUP 18
(George Henry Rice, b. 1873, Ontario)  

This group rests on the tests of two cousins.  Since the common ancestor is so recent (b. 1873), hopefully more matches will soon appear, as well as researched pedigrees documenting the line further back. 
 
EDITOR'S NOTE: This may be a German Rice line. 
 
 
DNA GROUP 99
 
 
GROUP 99

The remaining test subjects--54 of them--represent much genetic diversity and, at most, contain at least 41 distinct haplotypes, meaning among them are at least 41 separate, unrelated branches of the Rice family.
 
There are four matches within the group, but two of them are brothers and, upon expanding the test for the other two, significant differences appeared.  The third set of matches is a five-way match.  Expanded testing put more distance between some of them.  Interestingly, these five are very close genetically to the most common DNA type in western Europe.   The fourth match is a three-way one which showed further differences among  them after 25 marker tests.  Two test subjects split off from Group 99, one going to group 7 and the other to Group 16.  Expanded tests are ongoing for some Group 99 members.
 
EDITOR'S  NOTES: Following are notes on some of the test subjects in this group of unassigned test subjects.
 
> from Ireland to Louisiana
> from an Irish family who first settled in Worcester, MA
> thought they were from Edmund of Sudbury, MA, thru an Aaron in MA; DNA doesn't match
> brothers who descend from Robert Rice, b. 1790-1800, TN
> descent from a John Rice, b. ca. 1755,  Augusta Co., VA; d. 1811, Bourbon Co., KY 
> descent from Frederick Rice of PA German heritage
> descent from Mathias Rice (1801-1843) of Lawrence County, KY (an adoption has been found in this line.)
> English Rice family (still in England)
> well documented Rice family in Australia
> descent from Moses Rice, b. ca .1785, VA; d. ca 1875, Franklin Co.,  GA
> descent from John Rice, b ca. 1827 in Ontario, Canada. John Rice and brothers Jeremiah and James moved from Canada to Lapeer Co., MI
> descent from Hezekiah Rice and Mary Leftwich of Belton, SC
> descent from Isaiah Rice, b. ca. 1810 and d. 1875, NC
> descent from Richard Rice of Concord, MA, 1630s
> descent from John B. Rice, b. 1785, TN/NC; m. Sarah Brashear in Roane Co., TN
> descent from Thomas Rice, b. 1816. Thought to be related to Jesse Rice of PA (Group 14), but there is no match even though Thomas and a Group 14 test subject both have Rice ancestors who lived at Panther Creek in Hancock Co., KY.
> Descent from a Kahnawake Mohawk Rice who has the characteristic Amerindian haplotype, not that of Edmund Rice, which probably means he descends from an Indian woman who had Rice as a surname.  There are Indian descendants of Edmund Rice through a child captured by Indians. The ERA is working on sorting out this pedigree
> descent from William Rice (ca. 1721-1761) of Bertie Co., NC, who m. Sarah Perry
> test subject was adopted and is trying to find his father's ancestors
> descent is from William Rice, b. ca. 1825, possibly in Pittsburgh, PA or Canada; died ca. 1900 in Concordia Parish, LA
> descent from Valentine Reese and Christina Harmon, m. 1769, Rowan Co., NC
> test subject's g-grandfather Rice possibly born Danville, PA; first name unknown
> descent from James Rice, b. 1821, Heathsville, VA
> test subject's surname is Royce, but not a Robert Royce (Group 3) descendant
> descent from Casper Rice, b. 1737, Wurtemburg, Germany; lived in MD and d. 1816, KY 
 
  
 
CAN YOU HELP?
 
 
THE RICE DNA PROJECT: STILL IN ITS BEGINNING STAGES
 
 
Altogether, less than 250 Rices have been DNA tested, yet we now begin to see groupings of differing, unrelated branches of the Rice family.  When another 250 are tested the existing groups will begin to fill out and no doubt new groups will be formed.  Indeed, the Group 99 listings may continue to grow.
 
This is an exciting process and we are only at the beginning. 
 
If your surname is Rice, or you have cousins, uncles and other family members who have the Rice surname--and you don't know your Rice ancestry back to the immigrant ancestor-- please consider having a DNA test done.
 
If you are a Rice family researcher, but no longer bear the Rice surname and are willing to pay for the test if a male Rice subject can be found in your extended family, please let me know.
 
                                                                  Rosemary 
 

 
 
Edgar Rice et al 
1916 HIGH SCHOOL YEAR BOOK STAFF, MASSILLON, OHIO
The editor-in-chief is Edgar Rice, third from left (between two girls) in second row. He was killed in a 1947 airplane crash. 
 
 
 
 
 
A Rice DNA Success Story
 
Good afternoon Rosemary.....I just wanted to share with you that I have been contacted by a Richard Rice from Miami County, OH whose DNA is a perfect match (all 25 markers) with my brother's.  We have been corresponding for a few weeks and sharing info.  He has been researching his Rice family for 20 years and has a huge amount of material...in fact when he sent it I printed off 75 pages!  Our ggggGrandfathers, Joseph (mine) and Benjamin (his) were brothers, both born in Frederick Co., MD.  Joseph's ancestors  landed in VA/WA and Benjamin's went further down the river to OH. He does not have a birth date for Benjamin but does have a copy of his will (1820 in MD) which names all his children and describes his property....he was a wealthy merchant with saw mills in Frederick Co.  I don't know if you are familiar with Richard or have in touch with him previously.  If not, I thought you might like to correspond with him regarding your next Rice book!  His material is wonderful and your readers would find it interesting.  Let me know if you don't know of him and I will send you his email address.  Norah Rice
  
 
 
Rice stockmen
 
The above photo was said to be of the Oklahoma Cattleraisers Association, according to Bonnie Ann Rice, b 1898, Cache, Indian Territory, a daughter of John Newton "Newt" Rice, pictured in the center (middle row).  The two young men on either side of him appear in other photos in the family album, as does the man above and to the left of Newt's left shoulder.  They are probably Rices.  Can anyone identify them, or any of the other men?
 (Photo courtesy of Bonnie Gray - See her query in this Issue.)
 
 
 
Rice Family Genealogy Queries
 
PART I
 
SOUTHERN RICE FAMILIES

Alabama/Texas
My GGGrandfather, Andrew Rice, b.1823, Huntsville, AL, moved to Trinity Co., TX at the end of the Civil War with John F. Rice.  My DNA match is to Henry Rice (1717-1818) known as the Tennessee gristmiller.  One of Henry's sons, "John", might be Andrew's father, but I lack proof.  GENE RICE
 
Mississippi
The social security application of my grandmother (Essie Edith Prewitt Janeway) says her mother was Nanny Rice, b. ca. 1886, MS.  Nannie was wife of Leroy Prewitt. I think her parents may be Reuben H. Rice and Darthena Gardner, but cannot document this. (Editor's Note:  1920 census lists Nannie, 34, and Leroy, 40,  living at Magnolia in Pike Co., MS, with ch. Lois, Clarence, Essie and Louisa.  Living with them is Lizzie Rice, 68, who is named as Nannie's mother, b. Arkansas.)   MARK JANEWAY
 
West Virginia
Looking for information on family of Jacob Rice (1811-1891), who m. Mary Jacobs in 1833.  Descent is through their son, Andrew Jackson Rice (1834-1916) of WV, who m. Letha Ann Yost in 1861, and their son Oakley Rice, who m. Harriet Conger, they being my great-grandparents.  Was Jacob son of Joseph Rice who m. Rebecca Leach?  Could this Joseph be a son of George Rice and his wife, Sara? (Editor's Note:  If it hasn't already been done, one of your mother's brothers or one of your Rice cousins should do a DNA test.  This sounds like Group 10.)  
ERIC ADAMS
 
 
Families Traced Back to Georgia
 
Seek info on family of Charles H. Rice, b. 1805, GA , a carpenter and chair maker who m. Asenath Leverett in 1828 in Wilkes Co., GA.  Last record I have is from 1880 census when Charles was 75 and Asenath, 74.  Children: Tabitha Rice (ca. 1829-bef.1840); Nathaniel Garland Rice (1832-1922), who m. Henrietta Ley in Randolph Co., GA; Benjamin Rice (b. 1835); Elminia Rice (b. 1838 and still alive in 1860); Charles Wesley Rice (ca. 1842-1862), m. Nancy Cook, Randolph Co., GA; d. in field hospital shortly after Battle of Sharpsburg; and Celia Ann Rice, b. 1848 and living with her parents in 1880.  Does anyone know if/how this Nathaniel Garland Rice connects to Nathaniel Garland Rice (ca. 1792-1879) of Wilkes Co., GA, who had a son Charles?  (Donna: Did you ever correspond with Garland Black?...Rosemary)
DONNA McCREARY   
 
Need info for John M. Rice (1822-1862) of Wilkes, Marion & Quitman Counties, Georgia, and for Nathaniel Rice (1859-1899), Wilkes Co., GA.
WALTER W. GRIFFIN 
 
Families Traced Back to Kentucky
 
Kentucky/Indiana
My earliest known Rice ancestor is James Rice, b. ca. 1814, KY, who migrated to Shelby Co., IN, where he m. Sarah Brown in 1833. I descend through their oldest son, Balis Coates Rice, b. ca. 1836, IN. Neighboring Rices in Shelby Co., IN, are from Jessamine Co., KY. 
RON RICE  
 
Kentucky/Indiana/Kansas/Texas
Seek info on John Rice (b. 1835) and wife, Sarah France (b. 1844, Marietta, OH), who m. 1867, KS, where they had 3 ch. before moving to TX where lived in Denton, Callahan and Coleman Co. Believe John Rice is son of Thomas Elijah Rice (b. ca. 1800, KY) and wife Mary of Indianapolis, IN, and that his siblings are their ch. Thomas, Nathan, Will & Sade (Sarah/Sadi?).  Ch. of John & Sarah: Columbus, Chalkley & Bertha (all born KS) and Clarence, twins Laura and Carrie, then Myrtle, John, twin boys who d. in infancy, Otho Viola, Forrest and Adna Agnes, all b. TX.  JUNIOR RAMSEY
 
Kentucky
Who was Hannah Rice, b. ca. 1788, KY and d. bef. 1828, Fleming Co., KY.  She m. Johnston Garvin in 1808. Their six ch. all b. Carter Co., KY.  I descend from their son, William Harrison "Red" Garvin.   JACKIE
 
Kentucky
Seek info on family of Payne Rice (b. 1790) and wife, Margaret, who had sons George N. (b. 1829), John G. (b. 1833) and Francis M. Rice (b. 1837). The sons were b. KY.   LARRY & DOROTHY RICE
 
Kentucky
Looking for info on the family of my great-grandmother, Mattie Lawrence Rice. The 1880 census shows her living in Hopkinsville, KY, with her father, James L. Rice, and her mother, Ann B. Rice. That census notes that Mattie and both of her parents were born in Kentucky, also reporting that her mother's parents were both born in Kentucky, but that both of her father's parents were born in Virginia. JACKYE PRINE 

Kentucky
Need info on family of Robert J. Rice, b. 1870, probably Leslie Co., KY. He and wife Mahala/Hallie had 6 ch.: Alice (b. 1893), Theo (b. 1896), Willie (b. 1899), Sylvania (b. 1902), Syrena (b. 1905) and Arthur (b. 1907). Alice, my grandmother, was born in Shoal, KY, and m. David W. Roberts in 1920 in Leslie Co., KY She d. 1960, Pond Creek, OK.   ELAINE RICHARDS
 

Families Traced Back to North Carolina
 
North Carolina/Tennessee   (DNA GROUP 11)
Daniel Rice and wife Judith joined Big Pigeon Baptist Church in 1789, when it was part of Greene Co., NC; that area is now in Cocke Co., TN. Daniel obtained a 1790 NC land grant in that area, south of the Nolichucky River. He appears in church minutes until 1812, when he requested a letter of dismissal; his wife is not mentioned. Next his son Joseph Rice, born 25 Dec 1800, TN, shows up on Rhea Co., TN, where he married Mary Miller 16 Dec 1819.  JOAN E. RAMBO
 
Need info for Stephen Rice, b. ca. 1769, Guilford Co., NC. He married Phoebe Brashear(s).  DI SNYDER
 
Seek info for John Rice, b. 1755, Red Bud Creek, Nash Co., NC, and d. ca. 1837, Nash Co. My descent is through his son, Hopkins Rice, and grandson, William Dorsey Rice.  Sarah Rice, my mother, was daughter of Charles Rice and granddaughter of Dorsey Marriott Rice, who was son of Benjamin Rice.  Benjamin was son of William D. (above).  Can share documentation on these Rices.  JOE H. RICE 

The earliest Rice ancestor I can document is John Rice, b.1818, presumably in NC. He m. Helen Martin ca. 1847 in Bladen, NC, where he lived the remainder of his life.  ELIZABETH RICE
 
My paternal grandmother was a Rice from Robeson Co., N.C. The earliest I can trace is to William & Redding Rice, brothers in Robeson. Both were born between 1819 & 1825. There is an older David Rice there.  Is he the father?
MARK WALTERS
 
North Carolina/Alabama
Seek info on Ervin Foster Rice, b. 1827, NC; d. 1907, Jackson Co., AL; m. Louisa Jane King; Confederate soldier wounded 2nd Battle of Manassas Gap, VA.  Ch.: Henry Morgan, Joseph M., Sally E., Margaret Ann, Julius Ervin, Mary H., William Robert, Penelope Jane, Ida F. and James Harris Rice.
LARRY G. WILLIAMS 
 
North Carolina/Tennessee
Wish info on family of James Harvey Rice (1810-1891) of Wilson Co., TN. His father may have been James Rice, b. 1780, NC; he m. Nancy Ann Ramsey of VA, b. 1777. He may have been from Caswell Co., NC.  Can anyone help?  (Melanie: Have any of your Rices been DNA tested?  Rosemary)
MELANIE RICE HARVEY
 
Families Traced Back to South Carolina
 
Have searched unsuccessfully for more than 45 years for info on the Rice families of Old Barnwell District, SC, between 1808 and 1831.  My search is difficult because I am tracing female lines and the only other geographical area that might help-Darien/McIntosh Co., GA--had its records burned during the Civil War.  (Sounds like you really deserve help.  Send info on where your Rice line dead-ends and I will see if I can help.  I have info on some of the male Rice lines in Barnwell Dist.  See next query. -Rosemary)
CAROLE MELSON 
 
DNA Group 4
Seek info on David Rice Sr. who lived on Salt Ketchers River, Barnwell Dist., SC. David was b. 1780 and had brothers Benjamin and John Rice.  A David Rice was in SC in 1755 and may be a progenitor. An Aaron Rice had land on Limmons Swamp and Grapevine Branch, but I don't know if they are related. A Right Rice is listed in 1800 census of Orangeburg District, SC, with a large family. I believe this branch of the Rice family is in DNA Group 4.  A Barnwell County deed proves Rice and his wife sold 200 acres in Barnwell near Little Salt Ketchers River. The Governor of Georgia issued a passport to Right Rice, his wife and seven children in 1812 to travel through the Indian Nations to the Western Country. (See related query above)  EVE ROYCE 
 
Families Traced Back to Tennessee
 
Searching for father of Cyrus Rice of Covington, TN, who m. Martha Virginia Feezor. After he was wounded at Fort Pillow, his young son, James Henry Rice, went for him, made a blanket sling for the horse to pull and brought his father home.  Cyrus died of his wounds, then his wife died and Martha (Rice) Walton of Covington raised her brother's three children.  E.J.
 
Seek ancestry of Polly Rice who m. Johnson Winstead, 1814, Maury Co., TN. James Rice was bondsman.  An 1831 deed shows Polly's brother Nicholas Rice as an heir of David Rice. David Rice is mentioned in deeds going back to 1815, as well as in 1808 and 1811 tax lists in Maury Co.  Where did David come from?  Who was James Rice?   SANDY STITH 

Tennessee/Michigan/California
Wish info on Alexander A. Rice, b. ca. 1820, TN and went to St. Joseph Co., MI. Alexander m. Sarah E. Feece in 1840 and he d. 1857, Sonoma Co., CA.  Their ch.: Eunice (my g-grandmother), Minerva, Isaac, Charles, Silas, Alexander & Alice.  Looking for Rice kin so we can have a DNA test.
SARAH COSTON
 
Tennessee/Missouri
Looking for info on Nathaniel Vincent Rice, probably b. 1836, TN. He m. Rhoda Elizabeth Wells from Alabama.  Nathaniel d. at Alton, Orego Co., MO.  Where does this Nathaniel fit into Rice family?   DALE O'BEAR
 

 Families Thought to Have Originated in Virginia
 
Virginia/Kentucky       (DNA GROUP 4)
Seek ancestry of James Rice, b. 1750, VA, and his brother, Joseph Rice were in Halifax Co., VA (1783) and Montgomery Co., KY (1797).  I am in same DNA group as Millard Smith Rice who has his line back to John Rice and wife, Lettisha.   JAMES R. RICE JR.
 
Virginia/Illinois/Missouri/Texas
Need info for John Rice (b. 1780, VA) & m. Anne Rowin, 1830, Vermilion Co., IL. Son William (b. ca. 1831, IL) m. Nancy W. Poindexter ca. 1850-1857, Dade Co., MO.  Their ch.: Mary, Archibald, Rebecca, Louisa, America, William & James. Family moved to Grayson Co., TX, where William Rice d. in 1899. James was my g-grandfather.   SALLY RICE THRASHER 
 
N.Carolina/Kentucky/Tennessee  (Reader thinks this is DNA GROUP 4)
Seek parents for James A. Rice, Sr. b. 1736, who m. Alice Hix (b. 1742). He was a Caswell Co., NC, Justice of the Peace in 1777 and both James & Alice died there in 1787. They also lived in Logan Co., KY, and in Robertson Co., TN.  MARILYN YORK
 
North Carolina/Tennessee/Arkansas    (DNA GROUP 4)
Seek information on John Henry Rice (1828-1912) of Shelbyville, Bedford Co., TN.  He m. ca. 1850 Lou Sadee Dunaway (1830-1912), daughter of John & Margaret (Gordon) Dunaway.  John's probable brother William (b. 1831) died in Drew Co., AR.  Family tradition is that the Bedford Co., TN, Rices came from Caswell Co., NC; some settled in Arkansas. Children of John H. Rice: Mitchell H., William G., James A., Charles N., Margaret R., Nancy B., John E., Bessie, Edward C., Lillie M., and unidentified twins.
ROGER AND CAROL LANDERS
 
Wish info on John William Rice, b.ca. 1855 and died ca. 1928. He lived in the Danville, VA area and is buried there.   BOBBY L. RICE
 
Virginia/Kentucky
Who were parents of John Rice who m. Janet Cockrell April 3, 1797 in Loudon County, VA?  They moved to KY and settled near Right Angle (or Trapp) in Clark County. According to relatives, the couple had 10 children,
JOHN CHARLES RICE
 
Virginia/North Carolina/South Carolina
Our Rice connection is from Anderson Co, SC My husband's 2nd great grandmother was Asenath M. Rice (1801-1881) who married Rev. William McGee. I believe her father was Hezekiah Benjamin Rice (1764, Albemarle, VA - 1860, Anderson, SC). His father may have been Hezekiah Rice (ca. 1739, Culpepper, VA-1796, Caswell, NC). Asenath (Rice) McGee, Hezekiah B. Rice and many of her family are buried in the Rice Cemetery, Anderson Co, SC. Need documentation and ancestry for Asenath (Rice) McGee.  BETTY JO
 
Virginia/Kentucky
My grandmother was Bertha Rice, b. ca. 1890.  Mitchell Hall's 1928 book about Johnson Co., KY, says her g-g-grandfather, John Rice, may have come from Dover, England and settled near Roanoke, VA.  He reportedly served in the Revolutionary War. Descent is from son John, b. 1786, VA, and m. Nancy Davis (daughter of John Davis), who lived in Johnson Co., KY.  
Bertha's grandfather was Andrew Jackson (Black Jack) Rice who m. 1) Phoebe Fairchilds and 2) Nancy Jane Fairchilds. Descent is through their son Benjamin Franklin Rice, b. 1849 and m. Emily May. Does any other reader descend from this first John Rice?    MARGIE I. KING 

Share with us on the Fauquier County, VA, Rice Family.  I see a Bailey and a William who appear to be brothers and served in the American Revolution.  Who are the parents?  A William is shown on the tax list of 1759...who is he?
RANDALL M. RICE
 
Do you have info on John H. Rice, b.1833, who m.India (Coomer?), son of Samuel Davies Rice and Sarah Mitchell?  I think he might be the one buried here in Roanoke, VA.  LOIS BLANKENSHIP
 
Looking for anything about my g-g-grandfather, Jacob Rice (1807-1865), who was b. VA and m. Ruth B. Langley in 1830.   BOB RICE
 
 
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NORTHERN RICE FAMILIES

 
Connecticut/New York
Need parents for Mary Jane Rice who m. William Williamson. She was born in NY or CT, died in 1885, and is buried at New Hartford, NY.  MARK
 
Connecticut/New York
I am trying to identify parents of my fourth great-grandmother, Elizabeth "Betsey" Rice, b. ca. 1774. She m. 1) John Sears Peck (1769-1813) about 1792 w(here?). He moved from Lyme, CT to W. Bloomfield, Ontario Co., NY. He descends from William Peck, a founder of New Haven, CT.  Elizabeth m. 2) in 1816 at W. Bloomfield, John Perkins. An 1828 court document mentions her as also called Betsey West.   SUE KELLY   
 
Maryland
Wish to find proof of ancestry of my grandfather, Charles Homer Rice, b. 1888, Knoxville, Frederick Co., MD, and d. 1938, San Francisco, CA; his wife was Jane McKee, b. 1890, Trenton, NJ. Believe him to be son of Charles Armstrong Rice (1848-1919) of Knoxville, MD, who m. Emma Jane Reely.  Is there a relationship with the William H. Rice (1813-1869) of VA and wife, Jane Rhodes of Luray in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley?  KATIE FAY      
 
Massachusetts/Pennsylvania
Looking for parents/ancestry of Francis S. Rice, b. 1817, probably Bradford Co., PA.  Middle name may be Sneckenburger; spouse, Sarah Spalding/Spaulding, b. 1817, Bradford Co., PA.  Would appreciate any details on this Francis S. Rice whose parents probably came to PA from MA/CT via NY.  BOB RICE 
 
New York/Massachusetts

Seek info on family of William and Mary (Todd) Rice of Worcester, MA, and Albany, NY, whose son m. Edna Kershaw.  She came from Nottingham, England, to Canada in the early 1900s.   NADIA DABUL-MONTINI 

 
New York/Iowa/Ohio

Looking for parents of Major Rice (1803-1886), b. NY & d. at Spring Creek, IA.  He m. Maranda Rice Dec. 25, 1830, Huron, OH. She was b. ca. 1810, NY, daughter of James Rice (1785-1850) of NY & Ridgefield, OH, and his wife, Ann, b. ca. 1795, VT & d. 1864, Norwalk, OH.  Maranda d. 1881, Spring Creek, IA.  Her brothers & sisters were: Ambrose, Seth, Amanda, Luana, Naomi, Malona, Charlotte & Dulcena Rice.   STEVEN R. STOCKS
 
New York

My parents are James Joseph Rice, b. Brooklyn, NY, 1925, and Kathryn Susan Schilling, b. Brooklyn, 1926.  My dad was Irish descent and his mother's maiden name was Conklin.  Any idea where we fit into the Rice family tree?  {Editor's Note: The 1930 census shows in the Bergen Beach District of Brooklyn the family of James J. Rice, 38, and his wife, Annie, 36.  The children are Frances A.,10, James, 7, and George, 6. (Don't expect exact age matches in census records.) Everyone in the household was born in NY.  The father's dad was born in the "Irish Free State," as were both of the mother's parents.  The father's mother, however, was born in New York.   There is another  Brooklyn Rice family in which the son James is age 12 and has a sister Margaret and brothers John, Walter and Joseph  If you know names of your aunts/uncles, you can probably sort this out.}
JOSEPH WILLIAM RICE
 
New York
Information on Margaret/Menzo Rice of Addison, NY is sought by this reader.
MARVIN KILMER
 
New York

Is there a William Rice (1761-1838) m. Mary Elizabeth Hall (1765-1838) in any of the Rice books? Thank you for your time and attention. (Editor's Note:  No, that family will be in the book on New York Rices).  LINDSLEY DUNN 
 
Pennsylvania
Looking for info on John Philip Rice, b. 1801, Philadelphia, PA, and for a Richard Rice (related to him?)   
RICHARD RICE
 
Rhode Island
Anybody have any info on John Rice, b. 1675, Warwick, RI?  (His family is in Rice Book 2: The Immigrants)   K. GLOCK      
 
Vermont        
Need data for Reuben Rice, b. 1797 (Vermont?) and his wife Jerusha Briggs, born in Vermont.   ROBERT RICE

 
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OTHER RICE QUERIES
 
Louisiana

Need info for Jno. W. Rice who in 1843 purchased land in Caddo Parish, LA. He m. Mrs. Doratha Edwards, 1845, Caddo Parish. She was probably the Dorothy Adams who m. Charles Edwards, 1840, Caddo Parish.  Their ch.: Mattie/Mary (m. Wm. Hastey), Blackburn/Bud (m. Clara Blue), Jefferson Davis (called J. D.), who m. Julie Rives, Philip (m. Josephine Blue), and John "Newt" Newton (m. Josephine E. Kyle).  According to census records he may have been born IL or MO.     B. GRAY

Michigan
My Grandpa Ellwanger's true name is Donald Rice. (He was adopted by Ellwangers.)  Donald was the son of Louis Rice and Minnie Morton.  They were both probably born around the late 1800s and lived in Michigan. My grandfather was told he was of Scotch Presbyterian heritage.
JEFF ELLWANGER
 
Michigan
Beulah Rice (1914-2001) m. Ward L. Wagner (1910-1986); both b. MI.   She was daughter of Jelo N. Rice, b. 1881, MI, and Daisy Pratt, b. ca. 1884, MI. Does anyone have info on this Rice family?   MARK JANEWAY
 
Missouri
I am interested in information about the Rice Family in Callaway Co., MO. My paternal grandfather, William Guy Rice, b. 1870's or early 1880's. m. Murty M. Rice, daughter of  Alexander and Alice (Barnum) Rice. JUDY RICE ROEDEL

Ohio
Seek info on my great-grandmother, Frances (Rice) Frewen, daughter of Luther and Roxanna (Bennett) Rice. Their children were Gladys and Frances. Luther m. 2) Emma Helen Peckham and had another 8 ch.: Rose, Ellsworth, William, Elihu and Luther (twins), Etta and Ray (twins) and Wanda Rice. Luther was a son of Nahum and Betsey E. (Blain) Rice of Lorain Co., OH, who also had children Darwin, Martin, Orson, Phoebe and Nahum.  (See following query)   DORA E. (NICESCHWANDER) SMITH 
 
Ohio
Need info for Abram Rice who lived at Amherst in Lorain Co., OH, when daughter Margaret L. was born in 1833.  She m. Isaac G. Hazel (b. 1831), son of Hugh and Ruth (Kerns) Hazel. They were probably wed at Amherst.
 (See preceding query)    PATRICIA MAHER 
 
Ohio
Interested in family of Sidney Herbert Rice, b. ca. 1845 in Ohio.  His two youngest siblings were born in Seneca Co., OH.  He was son of John Rice and Susan Henrietta Hall and grandson of William Rice and Luceba Blodgett, who are my husband's 4th great-grandparents via their daughter, Lucy Blodgett Rice.  Have info to share on Revolutionary War soldier Fones Rice.
DIANE CAMPBELL
 
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Need help on family of John William Rice, b. 1855, who m. Martha Elizabeth Hinton in 1874.  Children: Charlie Lee Rice (m. Bessie A. Alexander), John Simeon Rice, Claude Murphy Rice, Joseph Thomas Rice, and Lura Rice (m. Charlie Pickens).  John William Rice deserted his family in 1895.
BOBBY L. RICE    &   WANDA BROWNING
 
My grandfather was Edwin Archibald Rice (deceased) and my grandmother is  Dorothy Catherine Reese (spelling may be off).  Where do I go next?(Editor's Note: Daniel, If you give me at least one date and place, I will check the census records for you.  You should check the death record for your grandfather to see if it names his place of birth and parents.)  DANIEL RICE
 
LINES ORIGINATING OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES

Germany/Pennsylvania/Michigan
Seek info & ancestry for Lewis Rice, b. 1776-1780, PA or Germany, lived in Northumberland & Lycoming Counties, PA and d. 1864, Clintonville, Lycoming Co., PA. His wife Catharine (ca. 1775-1856), b. PA or Germany, d. Lycoming, PA. Children: Christian Rice (1807-1893), m. Sevilla Shaner & d. Girard, MI; and, Catharine Margaret Rice (1816-1895), m. 1) Reuben Bardoe & 2) Daniel Cronrath; Catharine d. S. Williamsport, PA.   LESLIE CAHN 
 
Germany/Pennsylvania
Seek info on the family of Strauss(?) Rice and son, Simon Rice, in Philadelphia.  Descent is through Simon's son, Isaac Rice, b. 1867.  Isaac started I. Rice and Co., a Philadelphia firm which manufactured and sold flavorings to restaurants, bakeries and drug store soda fountains in a four-state region.  The 1880 census shows Simon Rice, 44, his wife, Barbara, 36, and children Jacob, Jonas, Isaac, Henry, Nettie, Jennie, Amelia, Moses and Florence. Simon and his wife both listed their parents as born in Germany. Is anyone researching the Emanuel Rice or Myer Rice shown in the 1870 census as emigrating from Baden (Germany)?  
BILL MEYERS

Ireland/Massachusetts/Wisconsin
Seek info on John Rice, b. ca. 1831, Diocese of Armagh, Ireland, who m. Sarah Hagan in 1852 at Faughart, County Louth, Ireland. They came to Hopkinton, MA, 1853, where daughter Mary Ann Rice b. 1856.  John & Sarah returned to Ireland, where Sarah died in childbirth in 1858; do not know if that child, Barney Rice, survived. John m. 2) Mary Ann Breen, 1861, Ravensdale, Louth; son Michael Rice bapt. 1861, Crossmaglen, County Armagh and daughter Margaret Rice bapt. Ravensdale, 1863.  John & Mary Ann came to Milwaukee, WI, 1866, where they had 8 more children.
MRS. SALLY GARCIA
 
 
 
 
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