Your Rice Family Ezine
Generation by Generation ~ Century by Century
TWICE MONTHLY
VOL. 1, NO. 17 SEPTEMBER 5, 2008
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Draw the Family Circle Wide, Then Draw It Wider Still
Share both the fruits of your genealogical labors
and the puzzling problems you encounter
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IN THIS ISSUE
FIRST INSTALLMENT:
RICE/CREW FAMILY CORRESPONDENCE
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Last Issue Led to Lots of Networking
For Root Diggers and Branch Climbers: More Humorous Epitaphs
Does Sarah Palin, McCain's Pick for V.P., Have Rice/Royce Ancestry?
Southern Family Trees: Family of John Wesley Rice of NC, GA & AL
We're All Over the Map: The Rices of Riceville in Johnson Co., KY
SPECIAL FEATURE: The Rice/Crew Family Letters
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GOIN' FISHIN' FOR ANCESTORS?
WANT A BIGGER CATCH? TWO THINGS TO TRY: 1) If you are not a male bearing the Rice surname, find a relative who is and have a DNA test done.
2) Send in the name of your earliest known Rice ancestor, giving at least one date and location, and we will try to match it with those families being researched by other readers. Email: ricebooksreb@yahoo.com
NEWSLETTER ARCHIVE
If your newsletter looks like it is not properly formatted, or is garbled, please let us know!
Address all newsletter correspondence to: ricebooksreb@yahoo.com Anyone have old family pictures to share?
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JAMES MONROE RICE (1835-1913)
Last Issue Led to
Lots of Networking
PART I
In our last issue we printed a message from reader Eric Adams, asking about his ancestor Jacob Rice (1811-1891). Since he had his line that far back, we recommended a DNA test so he could be matched with other readers. Your editor also felt that some of our readers were working on his branch of the family.
Since then, he has been contacted by reader Norah Rice, who has offered to share material and believes it possible that they share a common ancestor. She, too, urged him to have a Rice-surnamed cousin take a DNA test to see if he belongs with her and other researchers in DNA Group 10.
The above picture is from Norah. James Monroe Rice is her great-great-grandfather. He was born in Clermont Co., OH and died in Greenup Co., KY. He was a son of James and Elizabeth (Lakin) Rice.
PART 2
In the last issue your editor asked for clarification of data relevant to two William Rices in Virginia who both married women named Mary Crenshaw. One of these couples, I knew, parented the Sarah Bacon Rice who married Walter Crew and is the subject of family letters forwarded to me more than 30 years ago. (Those letters begin, in serial form, in this issue.)
I received the following from JoAnn Rice:
"I'm a descendent of Samuel Davies Rice of Bedford (VA). I have a lot of info (Lois Blankenship and I are working on it) from the Biggerstaff book, where we found my great-great grandfather, John Holt Rice, son of Samuel Davies Rice. I do have info on the William Rice b. 1779 who married Mary Temperance Crenshaw and was the father of Sarah Bacon Rice who married Walter Crew. This William was the brother of David Rice III (b. 1770, married Jane Holt, and father of Samuel Davies Rice, their only child). Their father was David Rice II, (b. 1733, married Mary Blair). David Rice I married Susannah Searcy. I show their children as Matthew, Elizabeth, Mary, Thomas, Charles, David II, Benjamin and William (b. 1744) who has a son William G., who married Polly Van Arsdale, but the dates don't work. I'm not sure this helps, but I have done a lot of work on a branch of the family that no one seems to know about. I've also researched William and Mary Temperance's four children and their descendents, if that would be helpful. There's quite a lot about them in Sarah Agnes Rice Pryor's diary. She was their grand-daughter (her father was Samuel Blair Rice, Sarah Bacon Rice's brother). I can send you a copy easily if you don't have it. I'm really interested in seeing your info about Walter Crew. I have their children listed, and can only imagine what the Presbyterians had to say.<g>. I'll be away for most of this week. Lois B. found John Holt and his wife India's grave in East Hill Cemetery, Salem VA. I'm going down to visit her and see the family plot. Best, Joann Rice
Many thanks to all of you for sharing!
~ Rosemary
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Sarah Palin, McCain's Pick for Vice President:Does She Have Rice/Royce Ancestry?
Sarah (Heath) Palin's solid New England ancestry may include descent from Robert Royce of New London, CT.
Robert, a shoemaker, was a New London constable in 1660. In 1667, he was appointed to keep "an ordinary" (tavern). In 1669, Robert Royce was a member of the Connecticut General Assembly. He and his wife, Mary (Sims?), had seven children. Three of them married into the prominent Caulkins and Lothrop families. (Sarah Palin is also a Lothrop descendant.)
Stories about this early Royce family, whose descendants often spelled their surname "Rice", can be found in the New England Historic Genealogical Register (122:274-77) and in Book 2 of the Rice Book Project, which is titled The Immigrants and lists some Robert Royce/Rice descendants.
Some trustworthy genealogists have said Sarah Palin's ancestor, Robert Boltwood (1620-1684), married Mary Royce (1629-1687), daughter of Robert and Mary (Sims) Rice. I don't show her as one of their children, so I looked into more records and discovered that other trustworthy genealogists list Robert Boltwood's wife as Mary Gernor and still others call her Mary Gernor Rice. How frustrating!
I poked around some more. Then I found Robert Boltwood's wife as Mary Rice, with no parents given. Interestingly enough, this last find was in a summary of Mitt Romneys ancestry. Remember him? He was one of the presidential candidates edged out by McCain.
Who are these "trustworthy" genealogists? They are people who have published well-documented books, or written articles for such excellent genealogy magazines as The New England Historic Genealogical Register. Gary Boyd Roberts, a recognized authority on ancestral lines of presidents and other famous people, weighed in on the Mitt Romney pedigree. That means I may keep looking for this mysterious Mary Rice.
Meanwhile, if any readers can shed more light on this, let me know!
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FAMILY OF JOHN WESLEY RICE (1850-1908) OF NORTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA & ALABAMA
"My husband and all the men in the Rice family that I met were tall--6 feet and over (my husband was 6'3")--and slender, with angular facial features and lots of hair, mostly brown, but some have reddish tint.
An elderly lady in an Alabama nursing home remembers John Wesley Rice well. He was the county jailor and rode 'a cantankerous grey stallion, no longer young, but feisty.' He was not wealthy, but always had time to stop and chat. He was always jolly. His wife, Carrie, was a very lovely lady with startling blue eyes. She took very good care of herself and lived a long time. Her home in Columbus--where she lived at one time--is on the historic tour."
So wrote Mrs. Denise Guerin Rice of Decatur, GA in 1974. She was researching the family of William Rice, born about 1811 in North Carolina, married Milly Ann Pearce in 1831 in Newton Co., Georgia, and died in Russell Co., Alabama before the 1870 census was taken. Milly was born about 1813 in Georgia.
John Wesley Rice was a son of William and Milly. Their other children were Martha Ann, William, James, Caroline (m. Tom Bagley), Benjamin, Amelia (m. a Mr. Stewart) and Thomas.
John Wesley Rice (1850-1908) was born in Seale, AL and died in Girard, AL. He married Patience Carrie Bryant (1855-1936) in 1873. She died in Atlanta and is buried with her husband in Girard.
Their children were Robert (m. Ollie Fannie Creighton), Lena Blanch (m. Jack Corley), Wesley James (m. Annie Ola Parmer), Charles Henry (m. Gertrude Dismer) and William Lee, who died unmarried. Denise's husband, Richard Henry Rice, was a son of Charles Henry Rice.
Denise located the William Rice family in census records of Newton Co., GA (1830) and Russell Co., AL (1840, 1850, 1860 and 1870).
CAN ANY OF OUR READERS TAKE THIS FAMILY BACK ANOTHER GENERATION OR TWO...OR THREE?
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Up the "big Sandy" long, long ago...

WE ARE ALL OVER THE MAP!
These Rices Lived at Riceville in Johnson County, KY
Margie King gives us this description of her Rice ancestors: I am a descendant of the Rice family thru my grandmother Bertha Rice, born October 6, approximately 1890. I have a book of hers - Johnson County, Kentucky - by Mitchell Hall, printed in 1928. The info on her family goes back to her great-great grandfather, John Rice.
"John Rice is the furthest back that the ancestors of the Johnson County family were traced. He is said to have come from Dover, England, and settled near Roanoke, Virginia. The first date of him known in the family tradition is for 1780, which is the time that he is supposed to have come to this country and served in the Revolution."
Grandma (Rice) May's great-grandfather was John Rice, b. 1786 in Virginia. He married Nancy Davis, died 1854, daughter of John Davis. They had 9 children. They "first settled on what was later known as the Sam Hale farm on Middle Creek, when they came to the Big Sandy. From there they moved to the head of Jennie's Creek."
Bertha Rice's grandfather was Andrew Jackson (Black Jack) Rice, b. 11-14-1822, m. 9-19-1844, to Phoebe Fairchilds, born 9-30-1823. They had 9 children. Andrew Jackson Rice was married a second time to Nancy Jane Fairchilds and there were 4 more children.
Bertha Rice's father was Benjamin Franklin Rice, b. 8-11-1849, maried to Emily May, daughter of David May of Salyersville, KY. There were 9 children in that family.
Bertha Rice was married to William Lester May in 1914. They had 9 children, Benjamin Lowell, Juanita, Pauline, Virginia, Robert, Emily, Alice, Roberta, and Beverly. As of August, 2008, 4 are still living. There were 25 first cousins.
The Rice/May family lived in Riceville, Maysville and Salyersville, KY. Grandpa and Grandma lived in Denver, Seattle, and finally settled and made their family home in Wenatchee, Washington. Grandpa May was a carpenter by trade. Grandma May took care of the children and also worked as a seamstress. They had a long, happy life.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I have received bits and snippets on the family of John Rice and Nancy Davis over the years. They are at odds with each other. Can anyone document this John Rice's parentage. Is he, as some claim, the son of John Rice and Martha/Patsy Fleming? Is this elder John the John Rice that died in 1792 in Roanoke, VA? I have decided it is not a good policy to mention reader email addresses in our ezine. If you wish to contact Margie King, email ricebooksreb@yahoo.com and your message will be forwarded to her.
SHOWN ABOVE: WILLIAM AND BERTHA (RICE) MAY AND THEIR NINE CHILDREN. The children--Benjamin Lowell, Juanita, Pauline, Virginia, Robert, Emily, Alice, Roberta, and Beverly--are not named in the order they appear.
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Rice/Crew Marriage "Blessed" with Love and LawsuitWhat follows is the beginning of a five-part series
dealing with the family of Sarah Rice and Walter Crew of Hanover
County, Virginia, and Salem, Iowa.
Sarah is a daughter of William and Mary
(Crenshaw) Rice. Your editor is in possession of correspondence and papers relating
to this and allied families. We begin with the 1819 marriage of Sarah and
Walter. It was an event not without its attendant difficulties, as the
following letters and memoranda indicate.
UNDATED
LETTER ADDRESSED TO W. M. CREW (APPARENTLY MICAJAH CREW, WALTER'S FATHER) FROM
CHARLES CRENSHAW, SARAH'S UNCLE.
Dear Sir:
About noon the day before yesterday I received the
astonishing intelligence that Walter had gone up the country to be married to
Sarah Rice. When I entrusted her to the care of your family and used as I
supposed the friendly accommodation of Walter to attend her to Richmond my confidence in the safety of the
course was unreserved.
Religion, that heavenly guardian of innocence, friendship,
honor and confidence increasing their obligation were such walls of defense
that her safety seemed to need no further security and my mind rested quiet.
How sadly have I been betrayed. My detestation and abhorrence of Walter's
conduct are inexpressible. I conceive that he has violated all the principles
which I have mentioned in a base and treacherous manner.
I have therefore to request if the event should prove as
report anticipated that you will make known to him my pointed objection to his
coming to my house. Guilt takes a sneaking secret course in pursuit of its
objects whilst conscious propriety fears not the light. Hence the privacy of
this project by which an orphan is to be sacrificed and myself her vigilant
friend distressed.
Accept my well-wishes
C. Crenshaw
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THE DISTRESSED MR. CRENSHAW OBVIOUSLY EXPANDED
HIS COMPLAINTS AGAINST WALTER CREW IN A MEMO TO BLAIR RICE, SARAH'S BROTHER.
THAT MEMO IS NOW LOST, BUT BLAIR COMMUNICATED THE CONTENTS TO WILLIAM RICE, HIS
AND SARAH'S FATHER, AND ELICITED THE FOLLOWING RESPONSE.
Charlotte County December, 1819
Observations suggested by a
perusal of the contents of the memo furnished Blair by his Uncle Charles on the
subject of Sarah's marriage. "Astonishing intelligence" -
"deplorable event" - "abominable idea" - "Providence
interpose" - "sacrifice of Sarah."
These expressions seem calculated to make one forget for a
moment the real state of things; and to imagine that Sarah had connected
herself by marriage or otherwise to the veriest wretch in the community - to some
drunkard, gambler or horse-thief - at least to some haughty, irascible, ill
tempered man who was likely to consign her for life to the most abject and
heart-broken slavery.
Surely none would infer from them the
truth of the case,
that she had married an
affectionate, good-tempered and intelligent man; and
whose character and connections
in a moral point of view were unexceptionable.
"Advanced Years." Although a
difference of age is generally deemed suitable, yet it is admitted
that a difference of 15 or 16 years is greater than is
desirable. But this objection, considering the uncertain and transitory
character of all human affairs, seems not entitled to great weight. I could mention
several marriages which have taken place in this and the adjoining counties in
which the difference of age in favour of the man was greater, and which proved
as far as appearances could authorize an opinion to be among the happiest that
I have known at all; and in some of which the senior was the surviving
party. Indeed were the absence of every sort of objection on each side
to be made a universal and indispensible requisite to matrimonial connections
few if any would ever be formed.
"Not worth a cent." I do not in the least doubt
that the memo contains the sentiments and opinions of the writer,
but as the statements of W. Crew, who must possess more perfect knowledge on
the subject and who is equally worthy of credit, are somewhat
different, I am inclined to suppose there may be an unintentional error in the
former. It is however known and admitted on all sides that he is not rich. But
it is confidently believed that what they both possess added together will
constitute an ample competency.
Poverty, that is the want of the real
necessaries of life, is certainly an evil of considerable magnitude:
But that our happiness is increased in a direct ratio to the distance
beyond a competency at which we are removed from this point, is an error too
vulgar and palpable to be imputed to the author of the Memo. Equally unfriendly
to human enjoyment is the opposite extreme. A situation in either would
be as undesirable as a residence in the polar or equanoxial regions of the
earth. Hagar's prayer "give me neither poverty nor riches" seems to
have proceeded from a perfect knowledge of the real condition
of human affairs.
"Superior standing" - "reception here flattering."
Without being understood to adopt fully the sentiments of
the Memo in regard to rank and standing, I would observe that here also Sarah
enjoyed the respect and friendship of every acquaintance male and female whose
respect and friendship were worth possessing and that since her return she has
unhesitatingly withdrawn her hand from several persons; one of whom would
have been rejected by few ladies in this part of the country and would very
probably have met the approbation of her Uncle Charles. This and other
circumstances evinced a strength and steadiness of attachment which was not to be
lightly opposed.
Having no agency in the events, or control over the
circumstances which led to this attachment, it remained only for
me to decide from the best views I could take of the probable results whether I
ought to consent to her marriage or interpose my authority to
prevent it. And I freely acknowledge that had my views and sentiments
in the whole subject been very different from what they were, I should have
been extremely unwilling to incur the responsibility for all the consequences
immediate and remote of such an interposition.
On the whole it appears not improbable
that S., who has happily never been smitten with an ardent love
of splendour and distinction, has judged better for herself than any of her
friends could have judged for her. It
is by no means presumed that the preceding observation will obviate the
objections which exist in the mind of Mr. Crenshaw to Sarah's marriage, even
if he read them at all; but the subject was interesting; I was at leisure; and
some explanation of the views and principles of my own conduct seemed due to
myself.
~ William Rice
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FOLLOWING ARE EXCERPTS FROM
A REPORT PREPARED BY LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES ENGAGED BY MICAJAH CREW AND SON TO
ACT FOR THEM IN A CASE WHICH APPARENTLY GREW OUT OF CHARLES CRENSHAW'S ANGER
OVER THE MARRIAGE OF SARAH RICE AND WALTER CREW.
In performing the duties consequent to the trust
conferred upon us by the act of Micajah Crew and son relative to the settlement
of their affairs we have unavoidably been led into a legal contention with Charles
Crenshaw. We are not surprised to hear of his honoring us with a liberal use
of those polite epithets in which he has long become eminently fluent in his
paroxysms of rage. All this might
well be passed over in silent
pity for the torture he sustains from
such scalding effusions of spleen and
malignity. They have been habitually
indulged till perhaps he has lost all power to curb
the violence of their
eruptions. But as
his representations of facts are calculated to create erroneous impressions
of the merits of the subject
and perverted views of our conduct
in the business, we deem it at least
excusable to correct their tendency
with a simple relation of the leading circumstances of the
case both before and since it was our misfortune to
be placed in contact with him.
[Here, the report
explains the circumstances surrounding a $5000 loan made by Charles Crenshaw to
Micajah Crew. The report states that it was privately but clearly understood
that the loan was for an extensive period of time.]
The report
continues:
About ten months after the
transaction alluded
to was
closed Charles Crenshaw
gave Micajah Crew notice that the
whole sum due him must be immediately paid or he would require
the trustees of the deed
to him to proceed to sell the
property without delay.
It was alleged as the reason of this precipitate resolution that Walter Crew the son of
Micajah Crew had married Sarah Rice,
his niece, contrary to his wishes and that he had cause
to believe the said
Walter's father and
all his family had clandestinely
promoted the connection. What the ground of his belief
was he has not thought
proper to state.
We leave him to
prove the justice of his resentment
against Walter Crew to the world after
making the short observation
that Sarah Rice had
a father of high
respectability concerned for her welfare who gave his free consent to the measure.
Charles' affection for his niece we admit must
have been excessively ardent or it could not
have been susceptible of
wound so deep as has manifested itself in
the wonderful tender manner in which he has since totally cast her off to the
mercy of whatever destiny may await her.
[The report here goes on to
detail Micajah Crew's fruitless efforts to raise the money required by Charles
Crenshaw, as well as the equally fruitless efforts
of others to persuade Mr. Crenshaw to change his course. Mr. Crenshaw persisted,
however, and actually had Mr. Crew's land and mills advertised for sale
without the signature of one of the trustees, Mr. James Pleasants. The report
concludes:]
About ten days after the sale of the
property had been advertised Micajah Crew mentioned the fact of his having paid
Charles Crenshaw interest on the $5000 for some time before
he borrowed it. Tarlton W. Pleasants, to whom he stated the
circumstance with a view to get his opinion whether the return of interest
ought not to be demanded, as the principal was so suddenly recalled contrary
to promise, consulted a lawyer on the case who without hesitation pronounced
the transaction palpably usurious.
The Pleasants and Fleming Bates being
both large security creditors of the concern of M. Crew and Son, and feeling
no doubt excited by Charles Crenshaw's ungenerous and violent course of conduct,
determined to write him a notice of their knowledge of the circumstances,
and require him to relinquish the benefit of his deed of trust and place
himself on an equal footing with the common creditors, stating at the same time
that if he declined to do so, they would demand of us the trustees to
resort to such measures of compulsion as the equity of the law afforded. C.
Crenshaw made his election in favour of maintaining the advantage he held and
they accordingly called upon us to interfere in the case. We have complied
with their demand and time must determine the event.
Charles Crenshaw may thank the clemency
of M. Crew that a greater degree of severity has not been
exercised towards him. Not however by us, nor that we know
of by any of the creditors, yet the unprecedented cruelty to an unoffending
family, struggling as they were under the pressure of adversity and accumulated
afflictions, would have pursued him with the utmost penalties of the law, had
the man of all others from whom he had the least right to expect mercy
consented to the measure.
In our next issue we
will present some of the early correspondence between William Rice and his
daughter,Sarah, and son-in-law Walter Crew. Among the most
charming features of this correspondence is the dry wit which characterizes
the letters of William Rice.
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FIRST THREE VOLUMES AVAILABLE:
The Rice Book Project
BOOK 1: Celebrating Our Diversity
Biographies of dozens of Rice family members from different backgrounds, different decades and different branches of the family; also a directory of Rice Revolutionary War soldiers; 248 pages
BOOK 2: The Immigrants
Lists of immigrants for three centuries; early generations of the Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut branches of the family; chapters on English, Irish, Scottish and German Rice families; 258 pages.
BOOK 3: Connecticut & Tennessee Rice Lineages
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FOR FELLOW ROOT DIGGERS AND BRANCH CLIMBERS
More Humorous Epitaphs
Ezekiel Pease: He is not here, but only his pod: He shelled out his peas and went to his God.
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Sacred to the memory of Jared Bates...His widow, aged 24, lives at 7 Elm Street, has every qualification for a good wife and yearns to be comforted.
A BAKER PAR EXCELLENCE(This epitaph appeared in an article titled "The D.A.R. Story" in a l951 edition of the National Geographical Magazine. The article does not give a location for the gravestone.)
Beneath this dust lies the moldering crust of Eleanor Batchelor Shoven;
Well versed in the arts of pies, puddings and tarts, and the lucrative trade of the oven.
When she'd lived long enough, she made her last puff, a puff by her husband much praised;
And now she doth lie and make a dirt pie and hopes that her crust may be raised.
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