Silveys' Plastic Consulting

Solutions & Education for plastic part manufacturing

April/2011

vol.5 no. 4

Greetings!

 

Hallo!

Spring is here or it appears to be trying to get here, up in the Northwest. Anyway time is flying by and things they are progressing a bit.  I trust you and yours are all doing well and business is looking brighter.

And for all those in the good ole US of A we get an extra 3 days before Uncle Sam must be paid... a small consolation in terms but as a good friend likes to remind me the Taxman must be paid.

Well this issue I return to discuss some issues with the gate in our molding area. A few of the issues have dealt with the subject and should be in the archives if you want to re-read or read for the first time. In this issue it is more on the aspect of freeze time.  I can still remember as I believe many can a process having 13 or 15 seconds pack on the parts only to find out that the gate froze in 3 seconds or less.  But at the same time I have had the opposite in that it did take 12 or 13 seconds for the gate to freeze off.

Enjoy the article and let me know your thoughts. 

Keep us in mind for your training needs and or do you just need a mentor or coach for those processors on your floor.

Enjoy the day,

Ta

Steven

360-882-3183

silveysplastics@hotmail.com

 

The gate, continued:

Freeze and thoughts

by SL Silvey

 

Definition: Gate: 1. opening permitting passage, 2.moveable barrier to passage, 3. any means of access or entrance

 

Generically gates come in all shapes, sizes and types. We have cold runner gates, hot runner gates and valve gates, and than the actual type within those classifications.

The purpose of any gate is to act as the entrance or door to our part within the feed system of material that is used to fill the part.  The gate in itself is the orifice that allows material to flow into the part, and is that piece of the runner system between the runner and part. The other factors of this gate area, is that it composed of a length (referred to as land) and a height and width unless of course it is a round opening than only a diameter.

The size of this orifice is determined by many mathematical formulas, practical experiences and or check list and crib sheets that various suppliers, tool makers and others have gathered and or developed over their years of experience.

Some really big rules of thumb may be to start with a height and width of 40% of the wall thickness of the thickest section in our part.  This can also be used as the diameter of the gate at 40% of the thickness.  The key to the preceding statement was thickest area.

The freeze off of the gate, is set to be as quick as we need and also as long as we need.  A simple test can be performed to determine the time it takes for a gate to freeze.  There are multiple programs for sale that well plot these points and or develop a graphical analyst of this aspect of the mold.  It is also possible within a multicavity and family mold that different cavities / gates have different freeze time, an issue in itself to production of quality products.

The question to ask is what is a good time, since in fact what is sold in the molding business is time.  Is it long enough or too long. An example of how long may well be a statement made to this author at a conference years ago when someone stated that a said material needs 5 seconds of pack time for each millimeter of wall thickness, to develop the said properties of the material.  My question at the time was not answered and it was what happens if we don't, and how much of a decrease in physical properties would we see.  As a molder this data would allow for knowledge that cycle time has to include this said pack time.

Now from the processing point alone some key attributes can be associated with gate freeze time.

1-      Shrinkage/ part size.

2-      Cycle time

3-      Stress

Shrinkage is a big one in that if the gate freeze is too quick we may not see the proper packing of the part and thus produce parts that shrink too much or more than was calculated for within the mold build.

This is best explained by comments that the part is too small, sinks and or voids are found in the part. 

If the gate takes too long to freeze than size may still be an issue but may vary shot to shot or run to run with the same set up conditions. This due to the pheoumn of the part is filled and then material is allowed to leave the cavity when the screw rotates and pressure is pre relieved from the mold cavity.

Cycle time is critical, and if the gate freezes quickly we can drive the screw back faster, thus reducing the time but also if the gate is slow to freeze than we run into a long cycle time to assure that we are frozen.  This time to freeze or not is driving the cost of our production and the amount of time that is needed.

Stress, this is a multi component issue in that it is most associated with pressure use in the molding process and also other conditions within the process. But given that if the gate freezes quickly we may need to have more pressure to assure full parts this can lead to stress in the gate area, or if the gate freezes slowly and a high pressure is used to maintain the pressure than the area of influences may be greater or have a more varied pressure profiles across our part leading to stress within the part. This may be seen in the field as parts cracking or crazing around the gate or even weld lines.

 

The key to determining what is going on within the gate is multifunctional. The calculation of gate freeze time should always be done on a new tool trial. Further the calculation of shear through the gate should be done, this is either mathematical, and or via a shear viscosity test.  The last test should be the pressure drop test to see how much pressure is lost while traveling through our gate area.   It should only be than that the decision be made to increase a gate diameter, though in truth and practice most well just open up the gate and then struggle from that point forward.

 

 
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Steven Silvey
Silveys' Plastic Consulting
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