Silveys' Plastic Consulting
thoughts, comments, articles
September/2009
vol. 3 no. 9 
Greetings!
 

Hallo!!!

 

Happy end of summer or winter depending of your location. Ah the sound of the clinking of glasses of BIER... yep it is Oktoberfest time,  just the reason to enjoy good bier and friends... a Bavarian celebration for the commemoration of the marriage of, Crown Prince Ludwig (later King Ludwig I) and Princess Therese of Saxe-Hildburghausen. This was in 1810 that it started, what a great tradition. Though it has morphed into a bigger celebration today.

 

Here in the Northwest of the USA it has been a mix of weather but great on 2 wheels of any kind. Sunny warm and cool in the evenings.

 

Seems a bit of pickup has been taking place with some processors and demand seems to be coming back on some of those products, let us hope it continues.

 

This month the article is on location of the gate. As they say it is location, location, location. Anyway enjoy the article and also included is index of topics that have been published, enjoy.

 

This weekend as it happens too many things going on but I will be attending a reunion of sorts for one of the first plants that I helped on lining out, and writing all the procedures for production. After a few owners this plant location well close. Guess 30 years is long enough in this day and age, doesn't seem that long ago but when you are having fun time does fly.

 

Here's to enjoying what you do and having fun at it too.

 

Till next time

 

Ta

Steven

 

360-882-3183 

Gate Location

Where the guessing starts
 

by S.L. Silvey

 

Definition: Gate 1. A barrier for limiting the passage of fluid. Location: 1 where something is at

 

Since the gate is in fact the area where our plastic enters the cavity, its location needs to be looked at for many reasons. Some of those are:

 

Flow distance

Uniform filling of the cavity

Minimum weld line formation

Part structure

Venting pattern in the cavity

Should avoid jetting of material

Ideally located in thickest area of part

 

In practical purposes or what we can call what is allowed by the OEM, tool design, part design specification, and or just costs the ideal gate location is many times not allowed. That being understood let us examine some the reasons for a few of the list above.

 

Flow Distance:

            This was discussed in a topic last issue and should be self evident. Ideally one gate should be enough to fill most parts when in fact the F:T ratio is too great many issues come to play in the functionality of the part. This needs to be examined as to not only filling of the part but also the stresses that may be involved in the finished part.

 

Uniform filling of the Cavity:

            Again when we look at the filling of the part it is ideal that we reach all extremities of the part at the same time thus achieving a uniform pressure in our part and being able to pack the part uniformly.  This is not to say the pressure is uniform across the part (gate to end of fill) but the drop in pressure is uniform and the plastic has reached the furthest points in equal volume.

 

Minimum weld line formation

 

Can the gate in conjunction with points brought up earlier be place to avoid the formation of weld lines? Can it be placed to where the weld line can be orientated in another direction or off kilter? In many cases speed and mold temperatures are constantly played with to place the weld lines in non critical areas. (Or at least they try, limiting the process window) 

 

 

Structure

 

In the functionality of the part the gate should not be placed in the area of high stress within the part. Also given the gate location can it be located so as to allow the perceived stresses in the part to function properly?

 

 

Venting

 

Since the material entering the part at the gate displaces the air within our cavity, how is its effect on our flow? Reviewing points above as to uniform flow and weld line formation venting of air out of the cavity is just as important. We do not wish to trap air within the part due to our fill pattern and what can be done to avoid this.

 

An example of a simple part should explain some the issues above. The product was a simple water pitcher. It was gated onto the bottom of the part, which should have been fine. The issue though was a movement within the core of the mold, as the part was not filling uniformly. What was not considered was the handle in the part, which when the flow reach it would allow material to flow into it, this than started an uneven fill pattern up the opposite side wall, which when looking at square inches of surface than pushed the core to one side continually exaggerating the condition. Though parts were produced full, upon opening of the mold and ejecting the part they would scuff as the core tried to come back to it original position.

 

So the issue was looking at the volumetric flow of the material. The issue was solved using flow leader type solutions and new core support capabilities.

 

For other information on gates look at vol. 1 #1, vol. 2 no 12, vol. 3 no. 4, no.6


SLSilvey
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Articles of the Past....
 

 

 

 

Vol. 1

-2007

 

no 1

Gates

 

no 2

Feed system

 

no 3

Fill time

 

no 4

Pressure

 

no 5

Speed

 

no 6

Shear

 

no 7

Viscosity

 

no 8

Viscosity cont pt 2

 

 

 

 

Vol. 2

-2008

 

no 1

Temperature control

 

no 2

Actual Temperature

 

no 3

mold temperature

 

no 4

cooling rate

 

no 5

Basics of plastics

 

no 6

additives

 

no 7

foaming how to

 

no 8

colorants pt 1

 

no 9

colorants pt 2

 

no 10

colorants pt 3

 

no 11

colorants pt 4

 

no 12

gate part 2

 

 

 

 

Vol. 3

-2009

 

no 1

Balance in mold filling

 

no 2

Balance in mold filling

 

no 3

puller or sucker pins

 

no 4

Tab Gate

 

no 5

Cavitation

 

no 6

Disc gate

 

no 7

Foaming thoughts

 

no 8

Troubleshooting the burn

 

no 9

Relationships flow to thickness

 

 

 


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