Silvey's Plastic Consulting
Notes, Articles and Ramblings
January/2008
Vol 2  No. 1
Greetings!
 

Well a Happy New year to all, yep we now start with the Second Volume. The holidays here in the States were good, got the list done at moms' house and visited with all.  I tried to get some help out a couple of my nieces (engineering majors at major universities) but they were both too busy with what ever and besides thermodynamics didn't seem like that much fun to them. Can't say I blame them, both good kids and one actually found out she would rather not make pizzas the rest of her life as her job over the break was both rewarding (monies for skiing) and creative as she developed her own style for those take home pizzas that employees can create for themselves.

 

This month a bit on temperature control. It is always an issue, as my most recent call confirms it when he was trying to lower cycle time but parts were too hot out of the new tool. Seems the old tool was Aluminum and the new one is steel, so thermal conductance is a bit different and than no one would comment on water line placement. I am awaiting photos and prints to investigate.

 

I have added a bit on Top ten for thermal, this after receiving a T-shirt from BRT on TOP ten reasons not to use Melt-FlipperŽ

 

Anyway the year has started out busy, yet I am not looking forward to the rhetoric of the election year, give me someone whom will talk data and facts, but than again they are politicians.

 

Take care and have a great one.

 

Steven

 
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Temperature Control 

How is temperature controlled
by Steven L Silvey
 

Definition:  The control of temperature via a measurement device so as to maintain a set variation i.e. +/- to a certain degree. Being in control.

 

 

Temperature control is a key factor within the plastics community. Whether this is material temperature, barrel temperature, mold, water bath or air temperature it is critical to the processing of material no mater which process is being used. 

 

What is happening in a plastics manufacturer's process is a thermal process. To put it simply as a good friend states it is like making toast. We have time and temperature which are both used in conjunction to make or produce toast to the desired level of doneness. Within Plastics manufacturing we have heat going into the process and than we have to take the heat back out, but key to both is how do you control this temperature or heat so that the process is maintained and in control. We also can mention cooling the same way.

 

The typical process would involve the use of thermocouples. These than would be the monitoring device that creates a signal and than forwards it back to the controller. Thermocouples come in various types and configurations. Basically it is two dissimilar materials which are combined into a probe type arrangement which when heat /cold is applied create voltage and send this signal back to a sensor or reading unit. Be sure that it is always a continuous strand as a junction or joint within the wire length can create a point of resistance thus alternating the signal. Also make sure it is of the correct type, as there are various types.

 

The reading unit, controller, PID than receives the imputes (electrical current) data received and will than send out its signal to either increase temperature or turn down temperature (off) so as to maintain the temperature within the range of the unit. It really is a pretty simple arrangement in terms of what is happening. But the range that is set for when the unit has to increase temperature and decrease temperature is critical. What is meant is it 15 degrees or 5 degrees? The other issue is where is the thermocouple placed? That is the real question that needs to be answered.  It must be remembered that location has to be known especially in a hot runner mold. Are you controlling the tips or actually the back of the drop to the tip?

 

The heat impute into the machine device has to be correct also. In using a heater is the wattage correct for the amount of heat that needs to be imputed. If the heater is always in the on position (drawing amperage) this may indicate that the wattage is undersized for heater band or probe.

 

So basically what are had are two functions, one that senses the temperature and one that will supply the temperature. On the supply side think of it as both heat and cold as in some system we may actually have cooling involved such as in a mold and or on the barrel of the machine or air temperature for a blown film line.

 

So what is critical is that the operator or set up person is in control of the process:

For temperature:

This means that the unit is turning on and off within its range and maintaining the set point.

 

A way to check the above is that the heaters or coolers on the process being controlled will cycle: turn on and off. If in fact the controller never turns on or off than the process is not in control. The process is controlling itself. For example this may be that there is a worn screw so the heats on the barrel don't come on and when checking to see what the temperature is, it appears above the temperature set point.  The process is not in control. This can also occurs in the mold, with miss-placed water lines or no water lines in that the steel /mold will seek its own equilibrium. When first injecting plastic into the mold it is cool but after running a while it warms up and the parts themselves start to look better and better, yet the processor has saved and packaged all those parts. Are they all the same, NO! So when investigating breakage warpage etc. this needs to be taken into consideration. It has been stated in some publications / papers that to get a thermally stable process it can take a few hundred shots/cycles.

 

Within the plastics industry the following are some of the temperature concerns that should be monitored / controlled:

1-     melt temperature

2-     mould temperature

3-     die temperature

4-     water bath temperature

5-     air temperature ( blown film)

6-     drying temperature

7-     part temperature upon exit

 

Not only should these be checked but checked via an independent temperature sensor so that there is something to compare the settings on the machine with.

 

 

Top 10 for Temperature

10- That's what the machine setting says

 

9- What's melt temperature?

 

8- Hose length makes no difference besides that is what was available.

 

7- We ran the prototype (Aluminum) in 30 seconds so why isn't the production (steel) running the same?

 

6- Heat the material up some more to fill the part

 

5- Uniform wall why?

 

4- Warpage is taken care of with fixtures

 

3- We save energy when we turn the barrel heats off, besides the screw generates enough heat

 

2- The book says to run the mold at 100 F so that is what we set our mold controller to.

 

1- If I put water lines in first how do you expect me to get my parts out?

 
 
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Silveys Plastic Consulting
Services Provided

The following are brief descriptions of some of the services:

 

Services can be over the phone, internet, Skype, Microsoft Messenger, fax, plant visits.

 

1-      Troubleshooting:  assisting in the processing

a.      At your plant, (minimum of 4 hour charge)

2-      Plant Audits,

 

3-      Training / education programs.

 

4-      Mold optimizations / new mold trials

5-      Other services

a.       program management

b.      material development  ( oversee with external assistance)

c.       testing of materials   (oversee with external sources)

d.      BTI MeltFlipperŽ   ( distributor for)

e.       Expert witness

 

 

 

The philosophy that I have is while solving an issue is to provide education and the whys behind the solution when in the plant. This in the long runs makes you the client more profitable due to a higher understanding / education of your employees.

 
Steven L Silvey
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This technology is for all cavitations, single to multiple to family when wanting an easier processing mold, less issues, faster startup and many more points which can be made. As was stated by a good friend, and I embrace we sell our time, though it is measured in what we get for our parts, and based by accountants on that fact. So why not make fewer shots and get more shippable parts, (less rejects or suspect parts)
Steven Silvey
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