Bhagavan: Namaste.
Namaste, Bhagavan. Namaste. So nice to see you again! We are very happy,
Bhagavan. Thank you for taking time with us. Today we are 44 people in the room
and again we appreciate your time so we will do the translations later. May I
start with the first question?
Bhagavan: Yes yes, go
ahead.
Q 1) Dear Bhagavan, again and again you have pointed out the importance
of setting right the relationship with parents for strengthening the bond with
the Divine. When parents have passed away or when there is no way to meet them,
you had told in earlier skypes that we would have to say sorry for all the
incidents where we had hurt them and express our gratitude for all the good
things they did for us.
And you have said: What we say to them has to be done
with feeling from the bottom of our heart. Regarding this we have the question: What to do when
I can´t do it with a real feeling, when it is only my head who says those words
like sorry and gratitude because I know it is THAT important?
Bhagavan: You have to
stay in the truth that you do not have feelings, that you do not have emotions,
that you are not able to connect with your parents. That is the truth. So we would not say try to generate
those feelings or emotions - that is untruth. Stay in the truth and accept it.
Say "Yes, I am not able to do it." That should work up to 50%. The remaining
50% - AmmaBhagavan have to work and set it right. Because if you have a poor
relationship with your Mom or Dad, then - because we have to work for your
awakening and solve some of your problems - we find it difficult. Because you
would not relate to us also, because you are not relating to them. And we need
to have some kind of relationship for us to really work on you. And that´s where
the problem is. But if you stay in the thruth - that there is all there is to
it, we somehow try to use more
force and knock you down. In which case I think we have to knock you down.
Get prepared to getting knocked down.
Thank you for this answer, Bhagavan.
The second question is:
Q 2) Dear Bhagavan, since our last skype with you
one month ago many of us can feel how much stronger their blessings have become
and some of us notice that there is growing "success" as very fast and good
results are following after sometimesjust one deeksha sometimes.Thereby some of us see how haughtiness and ego is inflating. Is it enough to see that and to be aware of it or what do you recommend
to us?
Bhagavan: Yes - It is
enough if you could see that you are becoming haughty, egoistic and you are
craving for significance. If you have that awareness - it is enough. But then
it could help you up to a point, but if it comes to awakening, no matter what
you do, it´s going to be a problem. You must SEE so powerfully that you cease
to be egoistic, cease to be craving for significance and cease to be haughty.
If you want to be awakened! And awakening is happening very rapidly now. It is
almost happening in every country now. And by every day we are getting more and
more awakend people, it´s moving very fast and I hope that soon Switzerland too
would have its own awakend people. We...(Bhagavan breaks off the sentence,
because of the laughter in the audience) ... You could start moving very,
very fast! So, I hope many of you or almost all of you could become awakend
soon. Because you seem to be such free people, you seem to be liberated - I do
not know from what you´re liberated, but you seem to be liberated and quite
free. So I expect that most of you should become awakend quite soon.
Thank you for this beautiful answer, Bhagavan.
Our third question is:
Q 3) Dear Bhagavan, how much do you value the
way we nourish ourselves on our spiritual path: for example meat, alcohol, chocolate -
which is important in Switzerland - tobacco etc. And how does avoiding those treats fit
into the concept of being authentically if we are still enjoying it in a moderate
way?
Bhagavan: I cannot judge you and I can
never stop loving you. So what I would be doing is I`ll be working harder. Cause, let us say, if you're smoking and
tobacco and the deeksha don`t get long very well, raw tobacco is fine, but not
processed tobacco. It produces that different kind of energy the sort of
contravenes the deeksha. It becomes a problem, so also alcohol, and meat beyond
the point. They become problematic. So, if in moderation, well, I think we
should be able to handle it.
But whatever it is, we are so focussed on
awakening you, come what may, we will not let go of you. But if you are too stubborn--of course if you're enjoying it, it will be
authentic, no problem -in moderation, I said, we use a
hammer. That is an access power in which case you will be knocked down. And I
hope you don't mind being knocked down because you want to be awakened.
On the other hand, if you cooperate you
make our job a lot easier and you, too, have a smoother process. Because I'm
sure, all of you are serious about getting awakened and getting rid of the mind which
has been making use of your life for survival, as I look at you, all that I
could see is, this mind is nothing but a donkey, is been carried by you on your
shoulders, strong donkey, he is not letting go of you, nor are you letting go
of the donkey. And its massive head is resting on your head, there`s a huge baggage
also on his back.
The baggage is the answers you have gathered through your
life by reading several books and other things and because you are inside the
mind or living inside the mind, you have questions like: what is the purpose of
life and is there a God or not? The answer is no. How the universe is coming to
be? The answer is yes. Who made the thought because it's there? You are such a
mess. Endess questions, endless answers. Now if somebody were drinking apple
juice he would not ask you, how does it taste then, because he is drinking it.
Since you do not live life, you have all these questions. And once you
become awakened, you come out of the mind and what is there is pure
consciousness, which is witnessing it and you start living.
Anything and everything is just joyous.
Just drinking water or going for a walk or looking at your wife or child or at
work everything`s nothing but joy. Because you are experiencing for the first
time, you starting experiencing life. Right now you have not experienced
anything except when you are a child and in some rare moments you have
experienced it, because the mind does not allow you to experience anything.
The moment anything is seen, heard, smelled or touched--any of the senses are bringing any
input, the mind quickly names it. Once it is named, the commentary starts, non
stop commentary goes on. You call it a tree, definitely you call it a tree. Tree
and then is it an apple tree or a mango tree or a coconut tree? All kind of
comments, endless, the experience is immediately destroyed. So, you are not
experiencing life. That's why you are taking alcohol, you are taking
chocolates, you are eating all those things, because you are not experiencing
life. And it's terrible. But I can see, you are very intelligent, eating a
little meat and some nice chocolate and some drinks and sometimes ..?..... the show. I would not be so cruel and
tell you: "Leave all this". I only say, the state of managing it is in
proportion so that I could help the donkey to come down. How long are you going
to carry this donkey? Miserable is an existence and the saddest thing is you do
not even know you are miserable. You don't even know you are suffering, the
jail is so comfortable, the jail of the mind. So, if you like to bring - and
I'm sure you want to bring down the donkey - and once you come down, there is
no question there.
There will be pure consciousness, there
is nobody there to ask questions, because he is gone. And the questioners are
gone, the questions, too, are gone. If the questions are gone, your answers,
too, are gone. All the garbage which you have been gathering over the years in ..?...the books do all go away. It's no use, this is not a real thing - only
concepts and ) beliefs. All
that is dumped, you are free of that, you're free of the donkey and you start
riding the donkey. Let's say, you are in Switzerland and you come to India,
there of course you will see you carry a huge donkey on your head, and the
donkey came with baggage, and in India we will bring the donkey down, pull the
baggage off and you will fly back to Switzerland on the donkey. ( Big laughter in the audience. )
But things are going very, very fast now. I don`t think we have to
wait until 2012 or 2011 - maybe at the end of this year most of you could be awakened. Every day
I meeting people who are awakened: Brazilians, Americans, Chinese, Japanese,
Taiwanese, all kinds of people, dramatically getting awakened very very fast.
So Swiss people could also be awakened very very soon.
Thank you for this clarification,
Bhagavan.
The last question is:
Q 4 ) Dear Bhagavan, you have often said that we
are able to become a better human being through deeksha no matter whether we
are a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist etc. Some do not feel any bond to and don´t
have a relationship with any religion but they can immediately feel the divine
revelation when they see the nature, a tree, a flower, a mountain, the starry
sky etc. How can they develop any personal bond?
Bhagavan: ..?..How can
they develop a personal bond...did you mention the divine there?
A: Yes
Bhagavan:
So, I do not know what their divine is, it could be a tree or nature, or a
flower or the universe. It's between you and the divine. If the divine is a tree,
then you respond to the tree, that's all. May the tree give you awakening and
if your divine is the universe, you can talk to your divine. And with the
divine, you will awaken. That's all, it's between you and the divine. Because
Christians may have a bond with Christ, Moslem with Allah, Hindu or Buddhists accordingly...) But since you say you only respond with
nature and the divine - may the divine, may nature give you the awakening.
Whatever personal bond you want to have with nature or the divine is within you
and the divine.
I will be a bystander watching the show.
The nature gives you the awakening.
Thank you so much, dear Bhagavan.
During the last skype you had told us that our special task in
Switzerland is to bring about more harmony into the world. Therefore we are
asking you for a blessing today to strengthen the harmony in the Swiss Oneness
community. And please can you also give us a strong blessing for the time until
the 10th April when we will meet you next time. And now we are saying
thank you SOO much for spending your time with us and for sharing your wisdom
and giving all those answers to us. We are very grateful to you. Namaste.
Bhagavan: I give you a very strong blessing for
harmony in the Oneness community in Switzerland. And all the blessing for you until next time.
So love you
all. We now move into a small meditation.
Namaste.
Meditation.
Bhagavan: Namaste.
Namaste,
Bhagavan.