
Skype Broadcast to Rome, Italy January 17, 2010
Quote from this broadcast:
"Consciousness is always the witness. It never participates in any action but witnesses the action that is taking place. For this you have to be awakened to see how it is actually happening." Sri Bhagavan
Video only: http://www.vimeo.com/8803309
Q1: To see what is there give me suffer. You teach us that
suffering is in fight and I know
that the solution is in let myself go. What is most difficult to do is
to give up, because fear is very powerful. Can you help me?
Bhagavan: You say that what you see is causing you
suffering, that's what you say. That means you're not seeing at all. Because,
to see is to be free, You're commenting on what you're seeing. Continuous
running commentaries is going on on what you're seeing. That commentary IS the
suffering. But if you really see, there is only seeing. How can there be
suffering? There's just the seeing, that's all. The fact is you're not seeing.
You are saying that you see is causing your suffering. That means you're not
actually seeing what is going on. There is only the mental commentary that is
going on which is suffering. So you've not got the hang of seeing. What you
need a very powerful deeksha, Then you'll be able to see. To see is to be free.
I will help you in that.
Q2: Sri Bhagavan, in many lectures you gave us you clearly
explained us about the mind and how it works. Can you talk some more in details
regarding the consciousness? What is it? How it works?
Bhagavan: Consciousness is always the witness. It never
participates in any action, but witnesses the action that is taking place.
Suppose you are talking to somebody, you are playing with somebody.
Consciousness is witnessing it. Suppose you fight with somebody, it is
witnessing it. For this you have to be awakened to see how it is actually
happening. Without awakening, no amount of explanation can really help you.
To help you with this regard, tomorrow, we will be uploading
on our website an interview taken at the Oneness University with an awakened
westerner. He's from Holland. He's a Oneness person who is now awakened. For
the first time, we've been able to record a westerner. We have Indians who have
been recorded, but the language is difficult for you. Somehow When you listen
to it I think you understand what is living from the state of the witness.
Somehow, we have managed to record a Westerner who is awakened. More and more
people are becoming awakened. You could probably get an understanding of what
it is like to be in the witness state.
Q3: Bhagavan can tell us about the Antaryamin?
Bhagavan: The Antaryamin is the same as a PC (computer)
which is networked to all other PCs. Let' say you are standing in the midst of
a road and you want some car to stop and give you a lift. And then you ask your
...I wish that car would stop and give me a lift. This Antarymin is connected to
the ant in the one who is driving the car. ANd if you powerfully request or
pray to the Antaryamin, This anat. will activate that an. in that driver that
is driving the car and he will have a feeling as he passes by that he must stop
the car. And the car will stop the car and you will get into the err.
Similarly, you go into a bank to get a loan. You ask your
Antaryamin, "I want this bank loan." This Antaryamin will talk to the
other's Antararyamin. Somehow he'll feel, "I must give that
loan." That is how the
Antaryamin functions. Each of us have an Antaryamin. When we say I have the
Antaryamin, it means your Antaryamin has got connected to all the other
Antaryamin. The other person might not know, but then this a will talk to that
a. and the a will infect express the way you want things to happen.That person
will say, I must help him. I must do this to him." He won't even know why
he's doing that. But this Antaryamin has spoken to that Antaryamin and that
Antaryamin will oblige this Antaryamin.
That is how it functions.
In deep mystical states, we observe two Antaryamins talk
also. For example one Antaryamin might say, "This chap is actually a
useless fellow. He's all the time in the hot sun." That was the comment of
one Antaryamin to another Antaryamin and the other Antaryamin said, "This
fellow is so useless, he's not at all going out anywhere." So Antaryamins
also do talk. Your Antaryamin is your Antaryamin and the other persons's
Antaryaim is their Antaryamin and they sometimes do converse also. It's a very
strange phenomenon. So maybe I'll talk more about it later. This much we can
talk for now. The Antaryamin will help you to become awakened very fast and it
is this Antaryamin that is involved in the deeksha process also.
Meditation 5 minutes and closing.
