
Broadcast with Sri Bhagavan to Mexico
Video:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmAW-DP2xs
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_JqvTOpPCU
Q1: The
first question Bhagavan, regarding the relationship with my parents. Why is it
that sometimes I feel that I have healed a lot there and afterwards situations
happen where I realize there is still a lot more to heal, as if I were going
backwards instead of forward. What can I do, Bhagavan?
Bhagavan:
Life is relationship. It's something which is very alive. We are not dealing
with some dead past here. So what we must understand is, when we talk of
relationship with your parents, it does not mean that you've done some work on
that and that it has been healed. It's not like that. The teachings must be
correctly understood.
So what it
means is that you have become alive to that problem. The problems are there,
but people are not aware of them, people are not alive to them. By this
awareness we don't mean simple knowledge. It's like holding a snake in your
hands. It's very intense. So that kind of holding, that kind of awareness,
we're talking about. When you hold something like that, it heals. It does not
mean it's gone forever. It could very well come back, if you lose your level of
awareness.
So the more
you're in your level of awareness, healing is in place. It's alright. But the
moment you slip from awareness, it comes back. It's not that there's been a
disease and you've been healed and you're free. It's not like that. It's a
living thing. Relationship is a living thing. Life is a living thing. And life
is relationship. No relationship, no life. So it is there working all the time.
It's coming up, it's dissappearing, it will come back after some time. So it
will be bobbing up and down. Like so many personalities are there inside you,
each personality takes turns and then comes and stays and then goes away and
something else comes.
So if you
give away the concept of saying "I am healed".. No, it's not like that. You
have to be intensely aware. Even if you are awakened, if at some point of time
you lose your awareness, it will come back. The only thing is an awakened
person would quickly get back. The awakening will come back, the awareness will
come back, and he'll get back to his beautiful state. You could always slip and
fall.
Similarly
here, you should not assume that all is healed. No. Maybe the charge is reduced
a bit, that's all. It would come bouncing back if you're not aware. So you must
learn to spend more of your time in greater and greater awareness. Maybe
initially it could be for a few minutes, then for a few hours, then for a few
days at a stretch. It goes on like that. And then it's almost permanent. It's almost
permanent. It's almost permanent, whatever be the problem is not going to
trouble you at all. Problems would be there, but they do not trouble you when
there's awareness. When there's no awareness, they trouble you.
So you can
never say "Yes, I am now healed". Maybe temporarily you feel like that. The
charge is gone or something like that. But then again it can come back if
there's no awareness.
So that's
the answer for the first question. We move on to the second question.
Q2: Bhagavan,
it is very difficult for me to let go of my emotions, problems etc. I feel
there are things that stay back and accumulate inside. Although, since I took
my first course in India, I have become more conscious about my feelings and I
allow myself to feel more. I can not experience things completely and then I go
into frustration. What can I do, Bhagavan?
Bhagavan:
So, we have never told you to let go of your emotions, problems or stop
accumulating. Never at all. That is not the teaching. All that we are telling
is, please realize, it is the one mind, it is the ancient mind, that is how it
was for millions of years and that is how it would be, unless and until the
human brain changes. It has always been so.
The other
thing is, it's not your mind or my mind or his mind. It's the one human mind.
So what we expect you to realize or understand is, that it can not change. That
it's impossible to change whatever is there. The impossibility of change must
strike you like a ton of bricks. That's what we're talking about. We're not
asking you to change things at all. We've been telling you that's what man has
been doing for millennia, trying to change. It's like straightening a dog's
tail. That cannot be done.
Now if
somebody's going on trying to straighten a dog's tail, then he realizes it can
not be changed, then he gives up the whole effort. When he gives it up, what is
there is peace, there is silence, there is tranquility. That's the absence of
conflict.
Similarly,
the problem with you is, you hear some teaching, you hear something about an
awakened man, you want to become like that and you want to be free of this or
you want to have something, you want to change this, and you're lost. That is
not what the teaching is saying. The teaching is saying "just be aware of them",
that's all. It does not matter what you see or what is going on.
The only
thing that we want you to realize is, it can not be changed. You cannot give up
those things. And strangely - we do not want to emphasize this because then it
again becomes a concept - if you stop trying to change, what is there is peace.
What is there is the absence of conflict. What is there is joy. But if you try
to say "I'll be free of conflict, I'll have peace, I'll have joy" - you will
never have it until doomsday.
It's all a
question of giving up. Not deliberately, not through effort. That's why we are
saying "effortless effort". If you try giving up and then give up, it is false.
It's just tricking you. The mind is tricking you. It must drop like a dry leaf.
A dry leaf automatically falls down.
Similarly,
all that we want you to see is that it's impossible to change. It's your effort
to change which is the problem. A problem does not exist by itself. It is your
problem that you want to change that. You want it to be different. You're
saying "that is right, this is wrong, it should be this, it should be that".
That effort IS the problem. Saying it is wrong, that is the problem. Saying it
is right, that is the problem. Saying "I will change it", that is the problem. When
you say "I must change jealousy" - that only is jealousy. If there's no such
effort, there's no jealousy also. Because there's no "somebody" who's having
jealousy. You are equal to jealousy. What is there is jealousy only. But it
appears as though you are suffering from jealousy. And then you're trying to be
free of it. How can you be free of it? Because you are only jealousy. Not that
you are suffering from jealousy. If that were the case, we could do something
about it. But that's not the truth. Therefore, it is just there. Why bother
about it?
It is just
there like the mountains are there, the clouds are there. You can't do anything
with the mountains, nor with the clouds. Just watch them. Just watch them, that
is all there is to life. Just mere watching. That is what we call awareness.
That is what we call awakening. It's not something to achieve. No. Just
realizing there's nothing to do.
We'll go
into it deeper in later times. Now we move on to the third question.
Q3: The
third question, Bhagavan, you tell us that inner integrity is fundamental for
spiritual awakening, but when we practise it, we see that we are the same
selfish person as ever. Then, how will this practise help us contribute to
global awakening? If despite our processes and teachings, we find more and more
ugliness. Reality shows us that what we love today is what we betray tomorrow.
Then how do we stop this ugliness from affecting our conviction to move
forward? How do we make our heart flower instead of withering away?
Bhagavan:
It's the same answer as the last question. Please read the last two sentences
about ugliness.
Dasaji
repeats the following: Reality shows us that what we love today is what we
betray tomorrow. Then how do we stop this ugliness from affecting our
conviction to move forward? How do we make our heart flower instead of
withering away?
Bhagavan:
You see, that exactly is the problem. You've already condemned it as ugliness
and you're saying it must change. How do you go from here? These are all the
wrong questions.
All that we
are saying is, it's neither ugliness nor is it beautiful. That is the problem.
The mind which is divisive in nature, because mind is nothing but the flow of
thought and what is thought? Thought is measurement. What do you do with
measurement? You divide. It is dividing it as the ugly and the beautiful. It is
saying, "This should not be there. That must happen.", that's where you're
caught up. It's exactly what the teaching is telling. Please understand "the
content is never important"! Whatever be the content, that is of no
consequence. It is not your content or his content. It is the content of the
collective consciousness. It is just there.
All that we are telling you is, please don't try to tamper with it. What
is inner integrity? Inner integrity is just seeing what is there. Not trying to
condemn it as good and bad, right or wrong or giving explanations saying "How
should it be in 2012? What should I change? I'm still self-centered. I'm still
ugly. I'm still struggling". Who asked you to struggle? Who asked you to
change? Not at all.
All that we are telling you is, please see what's going on. It's very
alive inside you. From moment to moment, it is changing. It is as alive as the
ocean. The waves are coming and going, up and down, new waves, old waves go
away. Similarly, thoughts are coming, going away, emotions are coming, they're
going away, personalities are emerging, going away. The whole drama of life is
taking place inside you. You're nothing but the Universe.
We're just saying, please don't condemn it. Don't try to change it.
There is selfishness, yes. It is not your selfishness, it's not his
selfishness. It is selfishness. Suffering is not your suffering or his
suffering. Suffering is suffering. Whether you have it or he has it. We are all
One. It is just there with us for millions of years and it will be so until the
brain changes. So, you are selfish, yes, that's the truth. You are rubbish pits
and septic tanks. It's not that you are a rubbish pit or somebody's a septic,
it's what we have in the collective consciousness. It is there. We have
gathered this over millions of years. There's nothing we can do about it.
I'm not asking you to become saints. Not at all! I want you to become
sages. Who's a sage? Who doesn't think of right and wrong. He just responds to
life, that's all. He could be violent one moment, he could be peaceful another
moment. He could help you one moment, he may not help you another moment. He's
just responding to situations as they arise. This is perfect action. You can
not call it good action or bad action or right or wrong. He just responds. And
he does not go back and think "whether I did the right thing or wrong thing?".
He keeps responding. He's just seeing what's going on. The content is not
important for him.
So, please, just look at your ugliness and then soon you'll stop calling
it ugly. It could look very beautiful also. What looks beautiful could also look
ugly. Therefore, you must take a neutral stand. Not that you take a neutral
stand, it must become neutral. Not that you behave like an enlightened person.
No. You have to be enlightened. Not that you behave like an awakened person and
you put an effort. If you do that, you will never get there. The problem with
you is, you attend a Level 1, a Level 2, this and that, and then all of that
becomes concepts. And then you want to get "there", you want to achieve that
and then you're doomed.
There's nothing to achieve. Nowhere to go. Everything is perfect. See
things are perfect. And what would help you? Inner integrity. As you go deeper
and deeper, it becomes easier and easier. And it becomes very enjoyable because
conflict ceases. Because inner integrity means just seeing what is there. You
don't lie to yourself. It's OK to lie to somebody. But the problem is you're
often lying to yourself. Non-stop lying is going on to yourself. Because you do
not want to see what is there because you think it's ugly. Who said it's ugly?
Some teacher? Some scripture? Well, you have nothing to do with it. It's just
there. That's all. That is the truth. How can you play with truth? You can not
tamper with truth. The truth is that. Yes, you are selfish. But why do you call
it selfish, why do you name it selfish, why do you say it's bad? It's just
there and you're not in control.
So, if you go deeper, it all becomes natural, it all becomes automatic.
There's no need to change. What happens then? Please do it and see. If I tell
you something, you will again make it into a concept. Just do it. It's not difficult.
Start with your breath and go inside and just see what's going on. Don't bring
in any scripture or any teaching. Not even my teaching. Just see what is going
on, that's all. You are the teacher. And the teaching is yourself. It's there
right inside you, the teaching. That is the real teaching. What's going on.
Nothing more.
So, if I give you a teaching and you make it a concept, you're not going
to go anywhere. I'm just giving you some help, that's all. Teachings must come
from inside, from your observation, from what you see. Then you must speak it
out. Then you'll see it has got power.
So, more clarifications I think you can get from Cristobal. He can help
you out with it, because he has had long sessions with me, so he'll be able to
explain it clearly.
So shall we now move into meditation?
*The audio from Mexico can not be heard in this video*
Bhagavan: Love you all so much..
Bhagavan: Oh yes, oh yes. I'll do that. I'll give them a powerful
deeksha, while we go into meditation. Yes..
*Meditation*
Shanti, shanti, shanti..
Bhagavan: Love you all! Namaste! Thank you! Thank you so much!