Broadcast with Sri Bhagavan to Aarhus, Denmark
December 13, 2009
Video Link: http://www.vimeo.com/8170054
Bhagavan: - What is your question?
Thank you so much for being with us,
it is a day of celebration for us.
Bhagavan: - Thank you.
Q1: - Since deeksha came into our life
our ability to see clearly what is going on around us and inside us is growing
rapidly. And what we see is not always very pleasant. On the other hand our
ability to accept it doesn�t grow that fast, and it causes us a great deal of
suffering. Why is that and what to do?
Bhagavan: - In this inward journey only up to a point we must use
effort. After a point there should be no effort at all, it should be automatic.
In case there is pain and suffering, it means you are putting an effort to see
what is there, and if effort is involved, that is not real seing. I give an
example of someone bringing a torch because there is a snake in the room. The
bringing in a torch is the effort. The switching on a torch is again effort =
that is the blessing. When that is done the light comes out and you see it is
not a snake, but a rope, and the fear is completely gone. It does not take
time, it does not take energy, and it does not take effort. To bring in the
torch and pressing the button is the effort-part - there after it has to be effortless. So
initially you set down in a comfortable place, watch your breath, take deep
breath going to the abdomen, slow it down, and then you begin to watch your
body sensations, and finally move on to the mind. Up to that point some effort
is involved. There after it should happen on its own. That is the time when we
call it "Contemplation". Then, after a point it begins to give you joy. The
very seeing gives you joy that is Meditation. It is not that "you meditate", it
starts happening. You must know when to let go. The problem is: You continue to
put an effort, in which case it becomes very painful - an exercise in
suffering.
Now, if any spiritual activity gives you
pain or suffering, please know that something is going wrong. It has to be
joyful, it has to be painless, and it should be automatic. So, the mind would
soon realize that there is an advantage in this journey. It is very joyful and
very profitable. Then it lets go. It must learn that, and it normally takes
about 21 days to unlearn its old habits of putting an effort and try to judge
and condemn and evaluate. In the forthcoming skypes I will guide you step by
step, and it will become quite easy. I think you people have done some work already
and may be ripe for that. I don�t see it will be difficult for you. I have a
feeling, especially with this group as I am looking at you, I have a feeling
that you are very near the take off point, so I will help you - don�t worry.
Q2: - Thank you Bhagavan.
- During our lifetime some of us enters
and are stuck deeply in existential crises with afeeling
of deep separation to the divine. Can you please help us andwhat to do in these situations?
Bhagavan: - "What to do" is the wrong
question. There is nothing to do. Just keep quiet, theneverything will just happen. The problem is that
you keep trying to do something. In theexternal
world you must do things. (Inaudible sentence). It is very necessary. But in
the inner world, the problem is you continuewith
the same kind of effort. In the inner world you must give up the effort. It
must become effortless, automatic. So when existential sorrows strikes you, it
is like a huge tiger coming at you. Instead of trying to defend yourself from
the tiger or escaping the tiger, we recommend that you jump into the mouth of
the tiger - and die. All what is required in the inner world is death. You die
to the past, you die to the future, and then obviously you stay in the present,
and all is over. Actually, in the inner world we can move very fast, if you
stop doing anything. The problem is that we all the time do something, there is
not work in the inner world. The only thing I will say to you is: Please give
up.
Maybe some change is required in the
brain, but that the blessing/ deeksha will take care of. Your questions are so
profound that I feel that it will happen soon. It is a very strange group. I
don�t think I have seen a group like this. (Laughter) Of course one
thing: Doing nothing should not mean indifference. Some time ago one of our
dasas was talking with a big Buddhist-teacher.
The teacher said: - "You guys seems to
bring about transformations in people, they have been coming and telling me.
But how come, 30 years I have been trying to do this."The dasa said: - "Yes but you are not
able to connect with the people." "What do you mean? In 30 years I have practised
zen and I am a very detached person." "You are not detached,
you are indifferent. Detachment happens. But you are practicing indifference,
that is the confusion."
The same here. Doing nothing does not
mean Indifference, but being very much alive of what
is going on inside. Its the slight changes you do and you will race off.
The third question, thank you.
Q3: - Beloved Bhagavan. Through some
strong past life experiences, I came in touch with ancient pain and a very deep
split between the male and the female. The loss of organic unity between the
masculine and the feminine. How is it possible to heal this separation between
the female and the masculine, and could you give a strong blessing for solving
it?
Bhagavan: - This is a pain which every
human carries with her- or himself the only thing is that you seems to have
become intensely aware of it. Now in India for example we believe that the
whole universe emerged from an infinitely small point, we call it the One, the nondual,
the Advaita. From that it became the two, three and the many. We say that the
One appears as the many, we do not say that the One becomes the many, but that
the One appears as the many. So a lot of divisons is taking place
during the creation and the evolution.
We believe that by 2012, these divisions
are going to cease. What it means, is that we will learn to live with
opposites, we will learn to live with paradoxes. Wherever there is a front,
there must be a back, where there is a high, there must be a low. Everywhere
you will find paradoxes, this is how the universe is constructed and without
paradoxes there would be no creation at all.
The question is can we learn to live with
these paradoxes? This is exactly what we believe is going to happen year 2012.
So I would say that your problem could get resolved either if you got awakened,
now or in 2012, where I feel that most people will become awakened.
So your problem is a very real problem
and a problem for everybody on the planet. The only thing is that you seem to
be deeply in touch with it, and I expect this to be overcome in 2012.That was the answer to the third question.
All this questions I will go into much
deeper in the future skypes.
Q4: - We have some practical questions
about, how we can come to India to do the Oneness Trainer-courses. There have
been many different sayings about it. We would really like to be clear, there
is no level 1 and level 2 anymore, so what is the condition to come?
Bhagavan: - If you want to become a
trainer, you must send an
application with either 25 blessing givers sponsoring it, or 10 trainers. In
case in your country you don�t have that many blessing givers or trainers, you
could contact us, then we will tell you what to do.
And in case you have a national
coordinator, the application should be forwarded to the national coordinator.
You must give it to him, and he will send it to us. But in case the national coordinator
refuses to send the application, you can contact us, and we will have a
three-party meeting: yourself, the national coordinator, and ourselves (=Bhagavan),
and we will sort out the issue. But I don�t see any reason, why a national
coordinator should refuse to forward the application, sponsored by ten other
trainers or 25 blessing givers. That is all there is required.
At the level of your inner life there
must be a deep connection with people around you. You must be concerned about
the human condition, and you must be passionate about this change we are
talking about in 2012. This is the only conditions we require. So you could
start applying to your coordinators. So I don�t see any big problem in coming
to India to the training, which will start in March 2010. These courses will be
started to train you as teachers - and as trainers in the first place - , and in
2014 you will be trainers in your own right way. You will no more be called
"oneness trainers", you will be "a teacher in your own right" by 2014. That is
what this program is all about.
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The next question, please.
Q5: - When can we come to you, we would
like to come as a whole group to see you?
Bhagavan: - If you are not coming for the
Trainers' Course, you can start coming anytime. Just contact us and have the
reservations made and come any time from now on. We are ready to receive you.
We welcome you.
Q: - Thank you. So we will be able to
meet you even if we are not?
Bhagavan: - Yes, of course. Yes, yes, you
will have access to me now.
Speaker: What a blessing. That was what we
have of questions right now.
Bhagavan: - So shall we have our three
minutes of meditation?
Speaker - Yes.
Bhagavan: - From next time it will be for
a longer duration, but this time it is three minutes meditation.
(silence)
Bhagavan: - Love you all, love you so
much. See you soon. Namasthe.
Speaker: - Love you Bhagavan, see you soon,
namasthe