Broadcast with Sri Bhagavan to Dubai 12-11-09

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*The skype call begins with the Dubai audience doing aarthi, singing the moola mantra and bhajans while Bhagavan is sitting with eyes closed.*

Dubai audience: Pranams Bhagavan!

Bhagavan blesses them: Love you all!

Dubai audience shouts: Looooove you!! We love you so much Bhagavan!

Bhagavan: Love you too. Shall we start with the questions?

Dubai audience: Yes, Bhagavan. We'll ask the spiritual questions first Bhagavan.

Bhagavan: OK.

Q1: Bhagavan, we want to know, between now and december 2012, to help the oneness movement and the mission, what do we need to do as individuals, as families, as seva and as a community?

Bhagavan: As individuals, you must become deeksha givers, because 2012 is all about giving deekshas. We would be forming groups of devotees, like the group now in this hall, and what you would have to do is, in the year 2012 starting in January, we will teach you a special technique whereby you'll be giving deekshas to each other.

Now this could be 4 times in the month of January, maybe 5 or 6 times in February, until December 2012. In the month of December 2012, it has to be everyday. So we want committed groups of people who will be able to come and spend some time everyday in the month of December 2012. That's when the transition is going to take place. And as you give these blessings to each other, the deekshas to each other, I will also be joining you in the Skype. I will be meditating along with you and I will also be giving you deeksha collectively.

The result would be, you would be moving into very high states of consciousness and as that happens, we will be influencing the world. For example, as you go into those high states, if you have a map of UAE (United Arab Emirates) in front of  you and ultimately when you give the deeksha to the map, strangely the people of UAE will receive a very powerful blessing and their level of consciousness will be altered. *loud applause from Dubai*

All this is possible the month of December 2012, for the simple reason, the three great cycles are coinciding. We have a 5000 year old cycle which started at the end of the Mahabharata war. That cycle would be closing in the year 2012. We also have a 26,400 year cycle which begins with yugas. All the yugas happened in that timeframe. That cycle also is closing in the year 2012. And then we have a 650,000 year cycle, the most massive cycle, that also is closing in the year 2012. So it's a very rare phenomenon that these three cycles are closing in the year 2012.

Not only that, 2012, according to revelations and according to certain other calculations, very ancient, is the midpoint of the Universe. This Universe began from a small, infinite, resemblant thought. That was the beginning of this Universe, much smaller than even an individual electron. So small was the Universe in the beginning and that has now grown to this stage. The Universe is now middleaged and it's lifetime now is another 13.7 billion years as the cycle closes. That is supposed to be one day for Brahma and thousand days for Brahma is equal to one day for Vishnu and thousands days of Vishnu is equal to one day of Shiva and thousands days of Shiva is equal to one day of Shakthi.

Now we are going to enter the midpoint of Brahma's day. Now what is understood by this is, the Universe which was a single, little, infinitely small thought has grown up to this size. The One has become the many. Not that it has become the many, it appears as the many, and this beautiful creation has moved to this point. It's like building a home and then you do a grahapravesham and you enter the home. So this is like grahapravesham for the whole of humanity in the year 2012 and then we are going to enter a totally new age. So all this work is about entering this new age. 

Now when this new age comes, what happens is, there's a change in pranic energies, which is what is responsible for a change in human consciousness, which is responsible for change in human perception, which is responsible for the way humans experience reality. Reality would remain the same, but the way we experience reality would be vastly different. When you experience it differently, you will discover Heaven on Earth. That is what is going to happen.

But then, you wait for the rains, when the rains do come, you can not keep quiet, you have to plow the soil to sow the seeds, do all things. So this is like the rains coming in. The new age coming and the energies coming. But then, we have to work for it. Without working, you're not going to get anywhere. And what is the work? We must raise our levels to higher states of consciousness and it is possible because of these energy changes. And how do we do it? We must become powerful blessing givers. That's the way to do it.

Now, how to produce blessing givers? It's not possible for everybody to come to a level 1 or level 2 to India or anywhere and become blessing givers. Therefore, we intend to produce trainers in every country of the world. They are already in other countries and they have started functioning with extraordinarily good results flowing in from December 3^rd. Tremendous things are happening now in many, many places. It has started already.

Now, for example, in Dubai we would like to have trainers. And who would be those trainers? Those who are now conducting satsangs, they would become the trainers. We would be training them, in order that they go back and conduct courses in UAE itself. For example, we would first start with what is called Oneness Experience Level 1, that would be the course you conduct. That would be followed by Oneness Experience Level 2, which would be equal to the Level 1 which you are now conducting. And that will be followed by Oneness Experience Level 3, which is the current Level 2.

So all these things would be conducted in UAE itself by the trainers there, whom will be selected from the people who are conducting satsang centers. So then, you will yourself initiate people into becoming blessing givers, so we can have thousands of people who are blessing givers. We need a lot of people to become blessing givers because time is running out. For various reasons, we have lost very, very valuable time and we have to now run faster now to be on time. All this is possible only if it is decentralized and decontrolled. This phenomenon has to be highly decentralized.

When it began in 1989 as a small little baby, it had complete flexibility and zero control. As control increased and flexibility declined, the power got reduced. So we are now moving very, very fast to decontrol and increase flexibility so that the phenomenon would come to full power.

People who came in 1989, when it was at full power, some of them became saints, some of them became sages, just by visiting the campus. That was the power at that time. Now we have to get it back to that power in the year 2012. So all effort would be in that direction.

So, that is what you have got to do. You have to become blessing givers, at the individual level. And what're the other levels you asked me? Please, repeat the question.

Dubai: What do we need to do as families, sevas and as a community, Bhagavan?

Bhagavan: Yes, as a family you have to, in order to grow rapidly, you must use family relationships to grow fast. How do you use it? I have often said life is relationships. Now what exactly is relationship? Relationship is a mirror in which you could see yourself. Let us say your wife is nagging you and you're losing your temper or you are beginning to use certain kinds of words and beginning to accuse her, then you should watch yourself. In that mirror of relationship, you will see who you are. You can never know who the other is, you could only know who you are. When you shout, you would know who you are. When you accuse her, you will know who you are. When you try to find some fault, you will know who you are.

Now, using that, seeing yourself, because the whole thing is about seeing who you are, and then when you see yourself as you are, you would begin to accept yourself, you would love yourself. When that happens you would love your wife, to start by seeing exactly what she is and right now you're not seeing her actually. You think you know her, you do not know. You would begin to know her, you would begin to accept her, you would love her. When the relationship is OK, it means you are growing rapidly on the spiritual path. And the same thing happens with your children and whomsoever you meet. And the whole family, as relationship improves, suppose there are a hundred families in a particular area, the single family would be able to influence the whole lot. That is the contribution of the family.

Then you're asking about the community. Now, for example, all those who are in this hall, you must become like a community, must become a oneness community. Because, we are going to move you into very high states of consciousness. Now who could move there? People who have no desires, people who have no problems, people who are sannyasas, only they could move there. But then still I am promising you enlightenment. How is it? Nowhere in human history has this been made possible. It's all individual seeking. But here are a group of people and you are all grihasthas (sanskrit term for "housholder"), you are full of desires and problems. So how do we go, when you are not sannyasas?  *some laughter from audience and someone says "You will do"*

The reason is 2012. We have the energies where people who are grihastha with problems, with desires, would still make it. Not only that. This time it has to be group effort. It's not going to be an individual working on himself, by himself, NO! You have to work as a group. That is why these satsangs are so important and you must form these oneness communities, which will also help you to deal with the problems that will be emerging before 2012. So as a group we will be working to move into higher states. So you must build up communities, various satsangs and various communities. Otherwise, it's not possible. That is for the community.

And the other was..? The last part of the question?

Dubai: As seva, Bhagavan?

Bhagavan: Seva? Yeah, seva is this only. Having satsang centers, coming to the satsang centers, working together, discussing together, I will give you a teaching, you have to discuss. In India for example after a *inaudible* program, people gathered in a satsang in the evening and they discussed the teaching. They did it, they go into themselves. So a lot of work has to be done on yourselves, that is the seva I want from you. That's the most important thing for me, working on yourselves, forming groups, getting ready for 2012. That is the seva.

What else is there?

Q2: The next question Bhagavan, you partially answered it. What are the plans and time scales for the next set of processes for us here in the Middle East, Bhagavan?

Bhagavan: See, we will not be coming to the Middle East, we will not be conducting anything there. All dasas who are there will only be in the temple. Our work is to meditate in the temple, to conduct courses for people who come here, Level 1 and Level 2 until such time that the trainers are ready, and then training the trainers and meditating in the temple. This is a very, very special temple.

You must understand that once upon a time there was a planetary civilisation which built the pyramids in Egypt, in Mexico, in South America, in China and many parts of the world. Now, the Egyptian pyramids, if you were to fly in an aeroplane and you were to observe them, you would find that it's a three dimensional Sri Chakra. That's what the Egyptian pyramids are. These were built in very ancient times - not what this science is talking about, much more ancient than that, they would soon be discovering that - to affect planetary energies. Structures can affect planetary energies. For example, if the swastika on Hitler's shoulder, had it been straight, Hitler would have won the war. Fortunately for all of us, it was a little slanted. That was how he lost the war. Structures and forms affect planetary energies.

So that was why the pyramids were built, that was why Stonehenge was built. Similarly, this temple is a three dimensional projection of a Surya Yantra and contains the Sri Chakra in the second floor, it is strategically equally located under the central dome. So it generates tremendous power, probably much more power than the pyramids, to affect planetary energies, which are now changing. And we are here to meditate in that center. We have been trained for that. The dasas have been trained for that. And as we meditate, those energies, let us say if we project the whole thing on Skype, it will directly hit you. Suppose I'm going to be in the temple with the dasas, and meditating and transferring it to you, you would know what power could be unleashed.

That was the purpose for which the temple was built. That was why we wanted all dasas back in India. Unless they are there, they've been trained for that, that's our job. Not going out and conducting programs. That has to come to an end and it has come to an end.

So there will be no processes, no programs whatsoever in UAE or any part of the world. If anybody comes and says "I'm from Oneness", he is not from Oneness. We have nothing to do with him, he has nothing to do with us. So be very, very clear about it.

If you want the process, come to India. For some time we'll continue with Level 1 and Level 2, but our function will be to train you people in conducting your own programs. That's what this whole thing is about. That is where you've got to help me. Become trainers, do this work.

You are my heirs. I do not have a heir or heirs, nobody succeeds AmmaBhagavan. We are a phenomenon. How do you succeed a phenomenon? Can you succeed a phenomenon? Not possible. You can succeed to some property, maybe some company, but you cannot succeed to a phenomenon. How can there be successors? Sri *inaudible name* was a phenomenon. Can he have successors? Ramana Maharishi was a phenomenon. Can he have successors? How does one have successors for a phenomenon? Not possible. The phenomenon goes and then it's dissolved, that's all. Phenomenon itself will continue, but those who are responsible for it have to go, that's all. They have to fade away. And, of course, people must continue with the phenomenon and who would that be? That would be the people of the world, the devotees. The phenomenon does not choose people, it's for everybody, whoever wants it, whoever is capable of doing it, he takes up and he does the work.

Already in India, people are getting ready. Already people have built many temples and they have their temples, they are becoming gurus. It has started already. There are temples where 2000 people will come a day. The devotees have done it. In some parts of India, there are over 500 temples, beautiful temples, even amongst regular temples. It has started already.

So our date is maximum 2014. You, who are now doing satsangs and who are interested, you must grow more and when you probably retire, you must build your own temple, you should be the guru there, you should be the pundit, you should be the purohit (term for someone similar to a priest). All knowledge will be transferred to you, all power will be transferred to you, all esoteric teachings will be transferred to you and then you continue with the work. That is the seva you have to do me. You have to continue this work. The deeksha must continue for humanity. The power must be there. Miracles must go on. Man and God must come together and they must harness Divine energies for whatever they want.

So this is a job that you must do. Not a group of people, that is only a short term commission, that's all. They're growing older, they came as young children. The time comes, they'll get married. We had 220 people at one point of time, now we are less than hundred now. What happened? They got married, they got settled down in life, many of them got married and we'll be losing some more people in 2010. They're welcome to do it, I'll be settling them down in life.

And 2014 when we finally bring down the shutters, those who remain, they will be all beautifully settled in life. They will be given property, they will be given money for a decent life throughout their life and decide they'll be married. They've done their work and of course you commit to all of them because this helped the movement.

So you have to take over. That is the seva I want from you. *Loud applause*

The third question?

Dubai: Bhagavan, you already answered the third question.

Bhagavan: Oh.

Dubai: We will move into the questions we had for clarity Bhagavan.

Bhagavan: OK.

Q3: Some of us want to know if the ex guides, if they ever come back, will they ever come back? What is your opinion? And how do we treat them if they do?

Bhagavan: First of all you've got to understand, I have no ill will towards them, I have no anger towards them, I have nothing against them. I personally feel it is my fault. For the simple reason, the three acharyas, they came in quite young and I was their school teacher, the one who was directing the school. I was tough and firm and they were very, very obedient people, very, very good students. All the time bowing down to us, sitting at our feet and learning.

And then by the time they finished grade ten, I had become Bhagavan. And again, they were at Bhagavan's feet, doing seva, non-stop for almost 22 years. They missed out on a developmental phase, which happens to every human being, when they break away from their parents, when they discover their own identity. Normally, what I should have done was, I should have given them a break. 3, 4 years I must have made them into a *Bhagavan says some sanskrit word which probably means some kind of worldly person* going around and enjoy the world and come back. That's how it's normally done. But I do not know, somehow I made a mistake. I missed out the *same sanskrit word again* part. So they were never allowed to come into their own, because I thought everything was fine. That was the mistake I made.

But they must break away. They must discover their own identity. It happens with your son, it happens with everybody else. The most crucial phase, I missed out. When that happens, generally by 34 or 35, it comes back with a bang! This is a biological phenomenon, it's a psychological phenomenon. It had to come and it came. So how can I blame them?

My pain and my anger is about my work, because I'm losing rapidly time. Because whatever has happened has disturbed the faith of people. It is very, very difficult to build up faith in people. People have removed sri murtis. People have done many, many things. They're losing faith. Now if that happens, how do I continue with 2012? That is the damage that I'm worried about, I'm angry about. Something else would have happened, I have no problem, because over a 120 people have left and they've all settled in life, they've taken up jobs.

There was an acharya.. this is not the first time an acharya has left. Three acharyas have left earlier. This isn't the first time at all. But this time, strangely, noises are being made. And one acharya for example, very young, she finished her grade ten at age 13. She said "Bhagavan please admit me into the tenth lesson", I said "Fine, do it". 13 years old.

14 years or so she remained with me. But she came up to me one day and said "Bhagavan, I want to go into the world, study, experience the world". I said "OK, fine". And she also wanted to talk with *inaudible* and that kind of thing. 14 years - no academics. And then she goes out. And then in phases plus 1, plus 2, finished engineering, then applies to Berkeley, Berkeley University.

And they asked her, "What were you doing for 14 years, without studying?"

She says "I was a oneness monk".

"I don't know what work this is. We'll admit you straight away into a Ph.D. course.

And she raced through her course. *applause from Dubai*

Some people undertook a big job, finished their MBA and now holds a very good position now. Some others got married and have children. This has been happening all the time. Acharyas have been leaving, dasas have been leaving. It's not to find fault with it. The time has come.

When they came here, the whole thing, was known, was designed to be shut down. In the beginning you would find in Satyaloka "To set man totally and unconditionally free". And look at the book, Arjuna Ardagh's book, page 189, which I've often referred to. I've always said it's going to be dissolved. Talk to all the old coordinators all around the world, they'll tell you Bhagavan had already informed. It's going to be closed down.

Now how do you close down? Take young people inside, they get very good experiences and then they go back to their lives, and finally, it's automatically shut down. In Japan, for example, people go to Zen monasteries, are Zen monks for sometime and then come back to the world. Those are the ones who win the Nobel prize. They have got very good training, they are quite sharp, they can do very well in the external world. And it's time they go back in the external world.

The whole thing is designed to implode, to shut down. Because it should not continue, it can not continue, because if it continues it controls the phenomenon. The phenomenon loses power. It has to go, including myself, including AmmaBhagavan. We must fade away. It's not just that the acharyas fades away, dasas fades away. Everybody has to fade away. And people must emerge as trainers and become teachers in their own right. That's what we're aiming at. Not even oneness teachers, that's only until 2014. Thereafter, you're a teacher in your own right. You do the work. You're worldly people. You know the world much better than one who is a monk. You can interpret things better. I have seen western people, even some Indians, dutifly expound the teachings, because of their wordly experience. Even some of the dasas, who are so strong in staying back, are those who have had worldly experience, who are well qualified, who have done great jobs.

For example, I have a dasa here who has been connecting with you. Do you know what his qualification is? At the age of 24, he was a full fledged chartered accountant. He took only 15 days to finish his exam. One day, he said "Bhagavan, I would like to become a CE(?)", I said "Go!". 15 days he prepared his CE(?). At the same time he finished cost accountancy, at the same time he finished the law course, at the same time he became a full fledged company executive. All four by the age 24, and tremendous experience in the world. And these are lots like. There are people have been bank employees, they've had work life. There's one who had a divorce, got married and divorced, and became a monk. So they have got worldly experience. They are the ones who are very, very strong. Similarly, you have worldly experience, you will be excellent teachers. It must be passed on to you.

Therefore, my only pain is that I'm losing time, because this caused such disturbance. But fortunately, nothing happened in South America, the whole of South America, nothing happened in North America, nothing happened in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia. The problem was only in Italy and it has got settled. Now I do not know what's the banishment in Dubai.

Dubai: No Problem, Bhagavan.

Bhagavan: My only concern now is Dubai, I think. I think the whole world is now at peace. *laughter from audience*

It's only you people that have to set things right. So you are the ones who's asking me these kind of questions. These questions have to be moved away now. It's all over. We're doing spiritual work, solid spiritual work. We are meditating, people are getting blown into states. But here in Dubai, we see, you're talking about all kinds of things other than spirituality. *more laughter from audience*

So the whole world is now back to order. The thing is, as you disturb people's faith, the blessing will decline.  You will not become a good blessing giver. I want blessing givers who can help people. And how are you going to grow? What has happened has disturbed peoples' faith. Not only that, it has produced confusion. Tremendous confusion it's creating. They have nothing do with me. I have nothing to do with them. They have founded a company for commercial purposes. It's a commercial venture. It is meant to make  profits. And there must be some formula for dividing the profits. This is a spiritual organization. And I've been telling we should not make any more money than what is required. We are spiritual people. That's a commercial organization which will be running those courses like any psychological course. And people will go there because they call themselves from Oneness and they say they have AmmaBhagavan's blessings, when it does not have. People might mistake that to be Oneness, while that is quite the opposite of what Oneness is.

As they've said, there are ideological differences. What are they? I say 2012. They don't even think of 2012. They don't believe in it. They say it won't happen. Then there's AmmaBhagavan who brought out the phenomenon. AmmaBhagavan are fading away. I want to fade away in 2014, they want me to fade away now itself. *laughter from audience*

Then there's grace. It's taken a back seat. It's all psychology now. Then effort. I have also spoken about effort. What's new about effort? And the miracles are gone. All things are removed. There are serious differences.

You might wonder why are enlightened people quarreling? So, first of all, assume that they're enlightened for a moment. I have never, ever said they are enlightened. I have only said they were in great enlightened states. There are so many people in the world who have great enlightened states. But an enlightened state does not give you enlightenment. I have often said mystical experiences do not a mystic make. It is my very famous statement.  You can have the grandest enlightened states. See a movie called Samsara, a Chinese movie, you will know that. One man was there in a state for 3 years, 3 months, 3 weeks, 3 days and then he comes out of the state. A lot of difficulty. Then you see what happens to his life. He's worse than a normal human being. State means nothing. So they were in great states, I never, ever declared them to be enlightened. People have assumed them to be enlightened.

Have you seen enlightened people?  Do you know Buddha and Mahavira are contemporaries. They lived close by. They never met. They differed. Their disciples use to meet and keep arguing and fighting. Do you think that all enlightened people have the same view? Not at all!

Ramana and Sri Aurobindo are contemporaries. You know Aurobindo sometimes used to make some contemptuous statements about Ramana. He wouldn't agree to Ramana's state and Ramana would not agree to Sri Aurobindo's state.That does not mean they are enemies. That does not mean they have joined hands and danced together in public, saying they're all enlightened. *laughter from audience*

In recent times you had UG Krishnamurti and Jiddu Krishnamurti. Both are enlightened, terrible enemies. At a personal level, excellent relationship, but then, they would not at all agree. J. Krishnamurti used to say "do this, you will grow, you will make it". UG Krishnamurti says "Nobody can become enlightened! Forget about it!" They are completely the opposite.

You also have some strange idea that enlightened people are very calm, peaceful, and loving, quiet. No, that is for the saints. And please understand I've said, I'm not a saint. Saints may be very loving, very kind and very sweet. Now with regards to a person like me, I'll just respond to some event and that's all. I won't go back and think about it.

The Buddha, for example, he used to be very angry sometimes and used to shout. It's called the lion's roar. Do you know what happened to the Buddha? He had a huge number of monks. Altogether with him, he had over 10,000 people. So, there used to be a lot of quarrelsome fights. He had a terrible time running it. Once a group was fighting and the Buddha interfered and said "Calm down" and gave them some advice. You know what they told him? They told him, "Get out!". Buddha was asked to get out. *laughter from audience*

The Buddha moved away to the forest.  Then the people came to know about it. And the people said, "No food for the monks until they bring the Buddha back." They did not move so easily. And the kings told the monks "If you don't get the Buddha back, I'm going to trash you." *more laughter*

Then they all went to the forest and fell at his feet and brought him back. This happened    2500 years ago. There was another guy there called *inaudible name*, you must have heard about him. This fellow used to come and ask him all the time, "When are you going to make me your successor? Make me your successor! " And the Buddha, do you know what words, I will give you his exact words. "I will hand over this movement to a dog, but not to you." And this guy died before the Buddha. *laughter and some applause*

These problems have always been there. Recently I met a sannyasa from southern India, and he told me how his shishya (disciple) tried to inject a gas bubble in him. Somehow he wriggled out of it and that fellow is in jail now. So, these things happen. So many times you must have seen these things happen. This happens. So, enlightened people does not mean they'll be sitting together and dancing together. Not at all like that.They'll have their own different opinions. Very, very different opinions.

Let me tell you at a personal level, I have a very good relationship with all these people. Very, very good relation. They in fact came to me along with Anthony Robbins who brought them. And they apologized to me and they hugged me and they  kissed me. Samardarshini, of course being a female, she came the next day because she had gone to the police to lodge a case against somebody who was making use of her Facebook, putting all kinds of false things there. So she came.

So I have been with them for over 20 years. They are like my children. How do you think there will be anger? I have no anger against anybody.

Many years ago a man came to me to kill me. He strangled my neck. After some time I told him, "please remove your hands." And he gently let go of his hands. Because he could not actually crush me. And for 5 years, I helped this man out financially. For 5 years, a man who came to kill me. So, I know what is love and what is compassion. I don't want to go on talking about myself.

I have the greatest love for them and I wish them well. *applause*

Don't be playing around with Oneness. Don't say this is Oneness! You do something. Whatever you want. Let it be a totally new program. Otherwise you'll be confusing people. They'll think "This is Oneness and that is Oneness, there's two parts to Oneness?" How could there be two branches to Oneness? Oneness is one. We cannot have two branches. It cannot be divided. It's advaita, non-two it is.

That is what this whole work is about. You do your own course. Whatever you do. Already they are using others teachings, they're borrowing things from other teachers, mixing up. Let them do, I have no objections, but don't bring in Oneness there. If you use Oneness teachings, I would say it is video piracy.  *laughter and applauds from audience*

This processes were founded by me. The Level 1 course, took me 5 minutes to format. Just 5 minutes to produce Level 1. Level 2, three minutes to format. My work it is. And the LIO, it is my format. Everything, anything! The words they use, the language they use, everything is mine. I have trained them. I taught them English, I taught them mathematics, I taught them history. Everything I have taught them. I taught them the teaching. These are my teachings.

And how do you push me away and take away the teachings? Suppose you will start a company with somebody, he takes over the company, would you agree to it?

Dubai: No way.

Bhagavan: And declares it to be his company. It must be your own, it must be your teachings, it must be your framework, it must be yours. Why do you make use of somebody elses? That leads to confusion among people. And you say it's got our blessings, while it does not have. You go on sending messages to people, "We've got Bhagavan's blessings, Bhagavan has done this to us". Not at all, you're not with me. You have never even met me, these dasas, they have never even met me. They came from countries, they met in Chennai, they went to some resort.. why a secret meeting? They don't even tell me what's going on. You secretly meet. You are my staff. If your staff do not report to you, what would you do, I want to ask?

Someone in Dubai: Dismiss.

Bhagavan: Would you take any action on them? Would you be blessing them and forgiving them?

Someone in Dubai: No way!

Bhagavan: Then there's no question then. Do it for your staff, I will do it for myself. *laughter*

So you gather up there, you use my money to stay in resorts, use my money to enjoy yourselves. It's all my money, it is. Not that I hold that money, in fact, I hold no money at all. I'm a virtual beggar, it's all in their hands. But still, it is theoretically, it is my money, it is. And they're having a merryful time.

And all these people got spoiled only when they left India. And who spoiled them? You people spoiled them! *great noise and laughter from audience*

They got their hands on all kinds of entertainment, all kinds of comfort for them, so much money was given to them. All things, you have spoiled them and you destroyed my order and now you're destroying my mission until now.

Dubai audience: Nooooooo Bhagavan! Nooooooo!

Bhagavan: I gave you my mission. I'm going to hold all of you responsible.

Dubai audience: Nooooooo! *laughter* We love you Bhagavan! We are here to help you out! We are with you Bhagavan!

Bhagavan: They are sannyasas. You must treat a sannyasa like a sannyasa! Not spoil them like that. *Bhagavan chuckles as he says this*

And they're lost everywhere, they came and they said, "Oh my god, the world is sooo beautiful! Bhagavan, the world is sooo beautiful. I can't be present here anymore. Dubai was heaven on Earth". *lots of laughter while Bhagavan is saying this, difficult to hear what Bhagavan says*

I have lost them. Another one comes and says "Oh Bhagavan, the world is too beautiful!" I said "OK." We gave them a nice reception, we hugged each other, and granted them and we gave a very beautiful send out.

Thirdly, another one said, "Oh Bhagavan, I also discovered the world is too beautiful!" *Bhagavan starts chuckling*. I don't blame them. The thing is, they are young people, the age has come, so the world is tempting. And you people are out there showing them "ching, ching ching" (money sound?) "Come, come, come!" *more laughter from audience*

I told them, we need people now to meditate in the temple. So, you have landed me in a soup. *laughter*

So anyway, I have all the love for them. If they do come back, I will be taking them back. But if they don't come back as monks, then we'll remain friends, that's all. We'll continue to be friends. They can not forget me and I can not forget them. They can not stop loving me and I can not stop loving them. That will be at the personal level.

For example, you must know that I and my son, we have an extraordinary beautiful relationship. If you have doubts, next time we're on Skype, we'll both of us will come together.. *laughter from audience, can't hear what Bhagavan says*

At a personal level, all things are absolutely excellent. All that they want is, they want AmmaBhagavan to go away. So finally when one of the dasas asked them, "Would you come back if Amma and Bhagavan leave the scene?". They said "We'll definitely come back". So all that they want is, they feel "Old people, pack up your bag and baggage, hand over everything! We will run the show. We know better. And this way the work will move much faster, we can't wait any longer. And we want all the power and the freedom to run the show the way we want to run the show." And my question is, am I that old?

Dubai audience: NOOOOOOOOOO!!

Bhagavan: So I'm telling you, afterwards you can *inaudible* shutting the whole thing down. So they're very eager to take over before that. So how can I allow that? You need a lot of experience to run this, it is not so easy. I haven't done my Level 3 yet. I have to push you people. After 2012, I'm prepared to say good bye. After 2014, I'm shutting it all down.

I have made a commitment to mankind. All over the world, I have promised people higher states of consciousness in the year 2012. So I must be in command, I must do it. How could I hand over it now? So all that they want is "You go away from there. No problems, we will take over. We want the freedom". What's the freedom? The freedom that you Dubai people have taught them.

Dubai: No, no, no! Bhagavan, we are with you!

Bhagavan: So how could I allow that? So I think I have answered the questions. *Smiles and chuckle from Bhagavan and laughter from audience*

Dubai: Bhagavan, you've answered all the other remaining questions, Bhagavan.

Dubai audience: Bhagavan, we are with you! We love you Bhagvan!

Bhagavan: My only concern is, I do not want to miss out this last chance for mankind. I feel, I know it, if we miss out, maybe after 50 years or 75 years, at best a 100 years, the story is over for the planet. So this is the last chance for man. We have to shift in our consciousness. We can't go on living like this. We will destroy the planet and destroy ourselves. So, a little bit of effort, if you can put together, we would help mankind get there and you will have the satisfaction for the rest of your life, that you helped bring about this great transformation to humanity.

And not only that, don't think that you die or vanish after death, life continues forever and forever. I'm going to show you when you come to India, through special processes, that life never ends. And you will continue to grow in other realms and you'll have this satisfaction that while you were on Bhur loka, on this planet, you made such a wonderful contribution for the good of mankind.

So let's get going with spirituality. That's more important. We should soon forget this thing. We are happy, they are happy, you're happy, everybody's happy. Let's get going with our work now.

So what's the next thing?

Dubai audience: Bhagavan, one last request from all of us here in Dubai. The recession has got hold of us all over again and there are new problems coming up. We want your blessings and your protection to take us through this, in 2010 also, with the recession that we're expecting. We want your blessings and your protection. All of us are requesting that, Bhagavan.

Bhagavan: All of you will have all my blessings. I'll be with you. The coming two years could be difficult in many, many ways. I've seen businesses could become difficult, jobs could become difficult, there could be various other problems. I will see you through.

Dubai audience applauds: Thank you Bhagavan! Thank you! Thank you!

Bhagavan: I know you are in Dubai. Dubai can be badly affected. I'll be with you and I'll help you out. Don't worry.

Dubai audience applauds again: Thank you Bhagavan!

Bhagavan: Now shall we move on to prayer?

Dubai: Yes, Bhagavan!

Bhagavan: So pray the way you have been taught to pray. So do it exactly as I've taught you and you'll get very, very good results. So next time we'll be meeting, let's go deeper into spirituality. Let this be the last time we are talking about this kind of subject. Let it be closed.

Dubai: Yes, Bhagavan. Thank you Bhagavan.

Little girl in Dubai who has been trying to get Bhagavan's attention for a while: I love you AmmaBhagavan!

Bhagavan says affectionately: Yes, yes, I love you too! *laughter from audience*

Little girl: Thank you AmmaBhagavan.

Dubai: Bhagavan, how is Amma?

Bhagavan: She's very, very fine. She was very, very sad, but after the last week she has recovered. It was very painful to her. But she has now recovered.

Dubai: Convey our love to Amma! We all love her, Bhagavan!

Bhagavan: I'll communicate to her, yes. I'll communicate to her.

Dubai: Thank you Bhagavan!

*Silent prayer and meditation*

Bhagavan: Love you all!

Dubai: Love you Bhagavan! We love you so much Bhagavan! Thank you Bhagavan!

Bhagavan: Love you all.

*Dubai audience ends the skype call with singing the moola mantra*