
Broadcast to Santiago, Chile December 6, 2009
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIObx02tU3o
(It appears there was a broadcast also on December 4 to Santiago. That video link is: http://www.youtube.co/watch?v=Oeaq5LnvM0I
We do not have notes for the December 4 broadcast with Santiago.)
Q1: What is your recommendation for those persons that doesn't want to receive Deeksha or doesn't feel anything with the Deeksha or doesn't believe in Deeksha?
For these people there is only one thing you can do: you can give them what is call as Smarna Deeksha or what is call Thought Deeksha. That is without looking into them or touching them, you could still give a Deeksha. That could be given and the next best thing is you could only pray for them. Thatīs all, nothing more can be done.
That is the answer for the first question.
Q2: There is a deeksha giver who works delivering babies. What is your recommendation for the moment the baby is being born and what is your recommendation for the other persons that are present but are not deeksha givers?
So, the moment the child is born, the child could be give what we call as Smarna Deeksha or Thought Deeksha, then those around could say nice things to the child like: How beautiful you are!, How wonderful you are!, How happy you are! So they could talk to the child saying things as though they are already happen, like they could say "Oh you are so wonderful!, Oh you are so great!, Oh you are so rich!" They can make such positive statements to the child as though it were a full grown adult. There can either speak it or just think about those things inside their hearts. Inside they can think: "What a wonderful child you are! What a great child you are! What a beautiful child you are! You are truly great!" So whatever you want for the child you could either actually tell or you can speak inside yourself. That is what they should do, while a deeksha giver can give Thought Deeksha.
If this happens, this will become the program of the childīs life and the childīs life will accordingly follow and exactly follow what all thoughts you have for the child.
That is the answer for the second question.
Q3: What is your recommendation for those people that acting according and sincerely with what they feel in their hearts, hurt other persons with their acts?
If you sincerely come from your heart, if you are really following your heart and sincerity when you do things, it is impossible to hurt another. In case you are hurting another with sincerity it means you are coming from the head, from the mind. That is when other people could get hurt. But however straightforward you are, how authentic you are, how sincere you are, if you come from the heart, it is impossible to hurt another. So that is what you have to practice. You must check out and see if it is coming from the heart or the head. Very easily you can confuse the heart for the head. It is very difficult to come from the heart, it needs a lot of practice a lot of authenticity-- only then you will know if you are coming from the heart. If you have a nice feeling in the heart, then it comes from the heart. You actually feel a very nice feeling it is impossible to hurt another. You can speak the truth straight to his face and he won't get hurt. But the problem is you often come from the mind.
That is the answer for the third question.
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Broadcast to Shanghai, China December 7, 2009
Q1: Bhagavan, we have to do the
courses locally, so how can we make sure
we inherit the Oneness spirit and apply
local wisdom and practices? We
understand your vision is to do programs
locally.
Bhagavan:
Yes. We will begin to train you really
intensely, and as we train you, you also
bring the local wisdom and practices,
and we will help you integrate that too.
And after that you will conduct your
courses without any interference from
our side. So what will be the
organizational structure, what will be
the charge, is all completely your
affair. We want give complete and total
freedom to everybody on the planet, we
don't want to be a controlling agency
nor a spiritual hierarchy, and we want
to give away everything we have.
That's
what Oneness is supposed to do. Oneness
is to set man totally and
unconditionally free, so we are heading
toward that direction. Right now we have
some kind of control structure, which is
not good for the work, this work is
spiritual work, it needs freedom. And
freedom is being curtailed, therefore
the work is losing time. Therefore it's
high time that people take over these
courses, according to local wisdom and
tradition.
So we
are moving in that direction. Suppose
you come from China, we will train you
in Oneness, you can bring traditional
wisdom or traditional knowledge, we will
help you integrate it, and then you can
go back to your own country and do the
course yourself. That's the answer to
the first question.
Q2: After I came back from
Oneness, I felt very much in the
presence, but now I feel somehow stuck,
so how shall I keep being in the
presence and how can I keep on
connecting with you? When I connect
with you I felt very happy. How shall I
do in my daily life to keep on being in
the presence, to keep on being connected
with you?
Bhagavan:
You must start with the external, that
is to become aware of our bodily
sensations, aware of what is happening
in the external world, like physical
sounds, physical sensations, and
physical smells. In short it is the
physical senses that you must become
intensely aware.
Then we
move inward, then you will see what's
going on inside, which will lead to what
we call the inner integrity. As you go
deep inside yourself, you will actually
discover who you are. Now who you are is
actually very different from what you
think you are.
Once you
discovered who you are, the next step is
to accept yourself as you are. The third
step is to love yourself as you are.
When that happens, the Presence
automatically and very naturally answers
to you. There are a few more steps to be
taken, which I will be guiding you on
the Skype.
So as
you meditate along with me, you will
progress very very fast, then you will
be able to make it even before 2012, but
a large number of people will be able to
make it in 2012. What you need to do is
to start the practice of inner
integrity. I recommend starting with
external awareness, then move to inner
integrity. And I will further guide you
to be in the Presence as clear as
possible.
Q3: So when you start to train the
trainers to do all the courses locally,
how often you will talk to the givers
via Skype?
Bhagavan:
Yes I will speak to you once in 15 days.
And the courses will start at the end of
February and the beginning of March.
Q4: (That's wonderful.) Bhagavan,
you said money does not go well with
spirituality. But without money, how can
the movement expand to benefit more
people? Without market oriented
approach, how can we make sure people
get the best program?
Bhagavan:
We are not against money as such. Money
will be required for running the
establishment, or required for running
the mixer. I am only against spiritual
work functioning as a corporate house
and making a profit. I am not against
making money, or against money itself.
We are a spiritual organization, we are
a group of monks, we have taken the vows
of a monk. Monks have no business
dealing with significance, with
importance, with power, with money.
We must
be free of all this craving. We do need
money to survive, but why should we need
more money than what's required? What do
we do with that money? It wouldn't serve
any purpose. All I am saying is: do not
make any profit, just take enough for
survival, and localize things so people
can all time come to the program.
I am
told that going to Fiji cost anything
between 10,000 to 12,000 dollars. People
are complaining that it costs too much
for them. 2012is the
collective time that mankind must awake;
we must move into the highest state of
consciousness, otherwise the planet will
be destroyed. In another 50 or 75 years
the planet will be gone. So we have to
speed up. This kind of charges, this
kind of courses where people must come
to India, to Italy or to Fiji, must go.
How is the work going to explode? They
should be empowered to initiate people,
they are not being allowed to initiate
until December the third. So how can the
movement be built up?
We don't
have much time left. We don't have
another 20 years, we just have two more
years Sir. Money is one hurdle, the
other is asking people to come to the
process in India, or to go to Italy, or
to Fiji, this way it's not going to
build up. This external body, we don't
need it, so it has to be removed.
That's
why I said by saying free the courses. I
am not saying don't take money at all, I
am saying go take the money necessary to
run the courses, we need money to
survive. It's not you. You can charge.
You can do whatever you want with money,
because you must survive, but we should
not function like that because we are
monks sir. We are becoming more and more
like a corporate house, this cannot go
on. That is what I said.
Q5: Bhagavan, do you want to share
with us your vision for oneness movement
from now to year 2012? So the givers in
China would like to share your vision,
and your priority for the Oneness
movement.
Bhagavan:
The 2012 is all about a change of
perception. 2012 is an energy shift
which I am not bringing about. That is a
natural event because you know that the
sun, the earth and the center of the
galaxy will almost come into a line.
When this happens, it is going to be a
huge energy shift. We are going to make
use of the energy shift to bring about a
change in human perception.
That is,
we will end this alienation between man
and man. Today we feel separate, that
will soon be gone if we make use of all
these energies. How? Because large
number of people should go into higher
states of consciousness, the others will
naturally move to that state. We don't
have to work with the whole humanity.
That's one thing we are not going to do.
China is
spiritually very, very evolved for the
simple reason that China is going to
become the world's number one country
much sooner than most people expect.
Much much sooner than most people
expect. So it's going to be the world's
leading country, the world's number one
country. Now along with that, also if
the consciousness of the country will go
up, you can imagine what impact it will
have on the planet. The population, the
wealth, the military might, the power,
as world's number 1 nation. An ancient
civilization, almost an unbroken
civilization, tremendous wisdom. That
wisdom will surface as you grow in
consciousness, you will discover your
own ancient wisdom. That will come back.
What is ancient wisdom? It is all about
enlightenment, that's all!
It will
come back naturally. Imagine China is
materially prosperous, and also
spiritually very developed, what
combination that is? What will that do
to the planet? In India, there is a
temple, a very ancient temple, where the
whole world history is codified on the
temple towers. It says just before the
Golden Age arrives, it will be the
yellow people. At that time they do not
know about China, you know. But we have
always known this as China. They are
right on schedule. China will emerge,
then it will be the Golden Age. So it's
very amazing. Even though it could be a
communist country, many, many changes are
going to take place. People's
perception, nobody can halt it, it will
naturally change.
For
example, if you look at how the Berlin
wall collapse. About 60,000 of these
Germans marched to Hungary trying to
meet the president. People are
being shot dead. The guards are asking
the local commander: "Sir, give the
permission to shoot, and more troops,
Sir" And he said: "Wait, I will talk to
the president", and they ask the
president, and the president says:
"Wait, I will give orders." And he
contacted the Soviet Ambassador, and the
Soviet Ambassador says: "Wait" He
contacts Gorbachev, and Gorbachev does
not answer the phone back. He listens,
but does not answer. So the ambassador
can not give orders, the president can
not give orders, the commander can not
give orders, the guards can not give
orders, so they let people to cross
over.
The
question is: How did people do it? How
strange it is that they were taking to
the heights to cross over the border. At
what stage the commander did not act,
did ask for higher authority? And
Gorbachev did not respond. Much later
Gorbachev says: "Well, I believe in
democracy." Something happened to him.
There
was this cold war meeting between Reagan
and Gorbachev going on. At that time
there was a person called Tony Robbins.
He is a very close friend of mine, he
works with me in Oneness. So he was
asking Gorbachev: "At what point did
your perception change?" Because they
were both fighting each other like
anything. Reagan said to him: "Your
state is an empire of evil." Gorbachev
replied: "Yours is an empire of evil."
Three of us are only accusing each
other. Then suddenly Gorbachev got up,
walk up and down. Then president went up
to Gorbachev and said: "Gobi, let us
open the gate." According to
Gorbachev, Gorbachev told this to Tony
Robbins, and he told it to me, that he
said at that moment something happened
in his head, and he said: "I can believe
this man." The next few months, the cold
war ended. So things changes, and he
changes.
So there
is going to be a massive pouring of
energy in 2012, much much more than
1989, people's perception is going to
change. And it can be used for any
purpose. Our purpose is for spiritual
growth, so we can be better human being,
so we can end this alienation. We become
close to one another. Between husband
and wife there should be closeness,
between parents and children there must
be closeness. Between people and friends
there must be closeness. Between
government and people there must be
closeness. We must feel oneness. We
should surpass all these divisions, and
national divisions. All these look
barbarous to us to say "I am an Indian"
"I am a Pakistani." that will look very
barbarous. To say "I am a Hindu.You are
a Christian." will look barbarous. All
these will naturally fade away, and we
need oneness. Because people will
discover their true nature, and their
true nature is Oneness. That is what's
going to happen, and we have to help
with that process.
Certainly China has to play a very very
important role. As I told you today with
the Indian temples that they are going
to be the harbinger of the new age. You
can see that China is racing ahead much
much faster than everybody believes.
Along with that, I also believe there
will also be a change in consciousness.
If you work with these people, it's
going to happen. That's what I see in
the future. Yes.