 Conference with Sri Bhagavan
Broadcast with Blessing Facilitators in Brazil
December 5, 2009
Questions and Answers
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Sri Bhagavan Conference, Brazil December 5, 2009
Audio Link:
Video Links:
part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EBCzNicmf4
part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVCtxWZEwIU
part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QleBe1tF9W4
Q1: When
we return from Oneness University in India, we are in a state of grace. Some
people are even in a state of enlightenment. But over time, the power goes down
and so we feel like before. Despite the meditation and sadhana, we can not
reach the state of awareness we had. How can we sustain this state for long
periods of time, Bhagavan?
Bhagavan:
We should be able to get into a permanent state in the year 2012. Such of those
people who have no worldly desires, who do not have a worldly life, who are
detached, would be able to get into that state even now. But since we are
basically worldly people, living in the thick of the world, we need the
energies of 2012 to enter into a permanent state. Not only that, before 2012,
we need to understand more things and we must do some sadhanas.
My talking
to you is Level 3, where I'll be giving you more teachings and guiding you and
also meditating along with you. Besides this you must slowly start practicing
inner integrity. After a year or so of practicing inner integrity, you must
also move on to external integrity. These two are very important sadhanas, in
which I'll be guiding you. Besides I'll be also blessing you and meditating
along with you. As we do this, we'll be growing rapidly and in the year 2012 we
should be able to enter into permanentely, altered states.
Q2:
Bhagavan, our mind has lead us throughout our lives. To awaken we must free
ourselves from the mind. But how can we free ourselves from this mind which is
in charge?
Bhagavan:
The first thing to realize is, it is not your mind or somebody's mind, it is
the human mind. We think it is our mind, while it is not really so. That's why
we call it the one mind. All mind, whosoever's mind it is, that one mind, has
fear at it's center. Fear is the core of the mind. Not only that, mind is
nothing but a flow of thought from the past, through the present, into the
future. This is what the mind does. And mind has got jealousy, anger, lust,
desire, all these things are the qualities of the mind. No matter who's mind it
is. They have the same qualities.
So, the
first thing to realize is that all mind is only one mind. Let us say you have
tuberculosis, you can not say "it is my tuberculosis" or "her tuberculosis".
Tuberculosis is tuberculosis. So the mind is the mind. It is not your mind, or
his mind or her mind. There's just the one mind with those qualities. This we
must first realize.
Next we
must realize that this mind is very, very ancient. It's as old as man is. It
has not changed at all. The brain itself has changed very little and the human
mind has virtually not changed. The ancient man had fear of the tiger or the
lion or something and modern man has fear of the share market or losing his job
or girlfriend, so it's the same thing. The ancient man desired for a spear, you
desire for a car or a house, or some such thing.
So it is
the very same mind, only the object of fear or the object of desire has
changed. You must realize this is an ancient mind. Not only is it the one mind,
it is also the ancient mind.
Just like
sugar has some qualities, like it tastes sweet, it's specific gravity is
something, it's specific heat is something. If you take salt, it has it's own
taste and it's specific gravity is something, it's specific heat is something.
Those are the qualities of salt, those are the qualities of sugar. Sugar, you
cannot make into salt, nor salt into sugar. Similarly, these are the qualities
of the mind, as designed by nature, as designed by your brain. There's NOTHING
you could do about it.
When it
strikes you, like a ton of bricks, that it is impossible to change the mind. It
must really strike you, not intellectually, not even as an insight, but
actually you must see that the mind can not be changed. It was, it is and will
be the same. Maybe when the brain changes tomorrow, it could change.
So what you
must see is that it is the one mind, it is ancient and it is impossible to
change it. If you really see it, you will become free of the mind. It will no
more trouble you. It will be there, but it will be working on it's own. It will
no more infringe on your consciousness, it will no more take charge, it will no
more trouble you. It's like a stranger living in your house, it will be there
working on it's own. It won't bother you.
Now, the
next part of your question is, who is there in charge? Your consciousness is in
charge. Consciousness knows how to respond to different situations. Not the
mind, but consciousness takes over. The mind generally reacts to situations.
Consciousness responds.
When the
mind does something it will go back and think "Did I do the right thing or the
wrong thing?" When consciousness responds, you do not go back and think
whether it was the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do. Whatever
consciousness does, it is perfect. It would take over and there will be no
problems at all when consciousness functions. When the mind functions, the mind
being divisive, it creates problems.
We will go
into it up to this point. Next time, in our next Skype, we'll go deeper into
it.
Q3:
Bhagavan, to what extent does our state of consciousness affect the power of
our deeksha? If we are, for example, in some suffering, is that going to affect
the transmission of deeksha and it's flow? (Sound garbled for a few seconds--4:25-4:30) How can you help us, the deeksha givers
of Brazil, to accelerate our awakening? We would like to ask you for a deeksha,
to all brazilian deeksha givers, for 21 days, to help our collective awakening.
Can this help us to awaken us immediately?
Bhagavan:
Up to a certain point, no matter what your suffering is, it will not affect the
deeksha. That is, your negative condition, your suffering, will not affect your
act of giving deeksha. For example, deeksha for health, deeksha for wealth,
deeksha for relationship - all this will not be affected even though you're
suffering and you're having a problem.
But, if you
want to bring about transformation in the person, if you want the person to
move into higher states of consciousness, if you want the person to discover love or great love in
relationships - if you want those things, then you must be in a higher state
yourself. You must see who you are, you must accept who you are, you must love
yourself as you are. If you can do all these things, then your deeksha becomes
very, very powerful. Then you can raise the other person's level of
consciousness.
So for
raising levels of consciousness, you must be in a very good state, otherwise
your deeksha will not work. But for merely helping a person to become healthy,
to solve some financial problem, to solve some relationship problem or some
other problem, the deeksha will work, even though you're not in a good state.
So that is how you must do it.
Now, if you
want to be awakened in the next 21 days. . . full awakening is not possible in the
next 21 days, that we have to wait for a longer time, we have to interact more
and get closer to 2012. But certainly we can grow on the path of awakening. You
can certainly be in a better state after 21 days. So I will keep giving you
blessings for the next 21 days if you want to, for all the deeksha givers in
Brazil. Along with it, you must practice inner integrity. One is the blessing
from my side and the other is you practicing inner integrity. If you do that,
after the next 21 days, you will be in a very good state. That is possible. But
full awakening will take a longer time. For that we have to do a lot more work
and wait for 2012.
So the
questions are over. Shall we now move into 3 minutes meditation?
Brazilian
translator: Bhagavan, Marco would just like to tell you that we have 6 new
deeksha givers, that were initiated last Thursday. He's asking these people to
raise their hands and he's asking for your blessings for these new
deeksha givers that were initiated last Thursday here in Brazil.
Bhagavan: I
will give them a very strong blessing now and they will become powerful
blessing givers. I will do that now. While we are meditating, I will also do
that. So shall we start meditating now?
Brazilian
translator: Yes, please, Bhagavan.
*Meditation*
Bhagavan:
Love you all! Love you Marco! Thank you!
*Applause*
Bhagavan:
See you soon.
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