Conferences with Sri Bhagavan Broadcasts in New Jersey, Vermont, and Russia for Oneness Blessing Facilitators
November 21-22, 2009 Questions and Answers
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Namaste, Noni Kaufman Oneness Blessing Facilitator in Austin, TX.
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video call New Jersey, U.S.A. November 21, 2009
Q1: There is a lot of fear in side
me. Because of this I am not able to do any thing in my
life. I know I have fear and tried to come out of it but didn't
succeed. Please guide me how I can come out of this and what I have
to do?
A1: Sri Bhagavan: You see the problem with you is,
you are resisting the fear. You should allow the fear to eat you
up. The fear is like a Tiger and you are running away from the
Tiger. Allow the Tiger to maul you, to eat you up. And you find
the strangest thing after you have been eaten by the tiger, which is the
fear. There is no fear in it. Try to do it. If
you are not able to do it, if you come to India and I will put you in your
mother's womb to a live experience and all the fear will be
erased. So either you do it or if you can not do it come to India
and we will do it for you.
Q2: I want Bhagavan and Amma to be my
antaryamin. Please let me know what I have to do to achieve this?
A2: Sri Bhagavan: You have to be very truthful to
yourself. If you have great inner integrity then amma Bhagavan will
come in to you either as a form or as presence. What you must
practice is inner integrity. I will give you an example that help
you understand. A very famous doctor in Delhi does brain
surgery. When ever he does brain surgery he invites amma bhagavan to
come and help with the surgery and he never had a failure. So what
happened once, there was a man who came suffering from brain injury due to an
accident and in a very critical condition.
So he way saying Bhagavan
please help me this man would die. But this time he got no
help. Then he says, Bhagavan this lady would become a widow and
these children would become father less and so help Bhagavan
. Still there is no response from Bhagavan. Then he
thought for a while and remembered all the teachings and the teaching says be
authentic.
Then he said, Bhagavan if this man dies my reputation
will go away and I am concerned about my reputation and so please help
me. When he became authentic Bhagavan responded and the man
survived. So, if you must have amma bhagavan in your life in a
strong and a big way, you must be very very authentic. If you are that
it will happen.
Q3: Many of us have been relating and
praying to Amma Bhagavan for more than 15 years. Can we continue to connect
with Amma Bhagavan even after 2014 when you say, you want to fade away?
A3: Yes, we will fade
away. We will become very simple people anonymous people living our
own lives but you can connect to us through your heart if you want
to. That you could do. But personally and physically we
would like to fade way. We do not want to become cult figures. That
will happen but you can very well try to connect through the heart if you want
to.
Q4: How can one become an Oneness
trainer? Any prerequisites to become an oneness trainer?
A4: To become an oneness trainer what
is the most important thing is that you must have the passion to transform
people. You must feel at heart the vision 2012. That's
our work, that's our mission, 2012. It must be close to your heart
and you must have a strong passion to transform men. These are the
two requisite qualifications to be trained as oneness trainer.
Q5: Bhagavan, given the current
situation, can we help you financially, or setup a new website or help you in
any other way?
A5: When we need your help, we shall seek
your help. You could help as at that time. Thank you for
the offer.
Q6: Please let us know when the
level3 classes starts and what are the prerequisites to attend level 3?
A6: Level 3 classes have
started. My talking to you is level 3. This is level
3. Interaction with me is level 3. So we could probably
meet once in a month and then we will talk. The talking is level 3.
Q7: What about the Level1 &
Level2 courses scheduled earlier in Fiji? Would they continue as is
or would there be any changes to the schedules?
A7: We would not recommend people to
go to either Italy or Fiji or anywhere for those courses. We will soon be
training the oneness trainers to conduct level1 and level2 in the US itself and
they would themselves train people to becoming blessing
givers. There is no need to go anywhere. =======================================================================
Televideo with Sri Bhagavan 11-21-09 Vermont, U.S.A.
Q1: What is needed for us to realize the permanent
irreversible state of enlightenment that is not dependent on kundalini being up
or not? Could you recommend a daily practice?
A1:
I would recommend the daily practice of inner integrity, but that is not the
total solution. What is required is, what I'm trying to do now is, in the
year 2010 the Oneness Trainers themselves must initiate people to become
BGs. There's no need for them to go for a Level 1 or a Level 2 either in Italy, or in Fiji, or in India. The OTs themselves will be trained,
thereby they will initiate people into becoming OBGs in the year 2010, that is
the coming year.
Then what happens is the charges will be very very low,
and there will be many people available to train them up, so there will be an
explosion of Blessing Givers. That should happen in 2010. In 2011
the BGs themselves will be able to initiate people to become BGs. They
won't have to even conduct a course, a mere Blessing will initiate
another to become a BG. That is in 2011.
That will lead to a large
explosion. After that will come the most crucial year, people must form
groups, small, medium or big in villages, towns, cities, wherever they
want to and then begins the real process. We are training them in giving
a certain kind of Deeksha to each other . If there are 100 people in the
group they will have to give Deekshas to each other. A special kind of
Deeksha and we will be training you in that. As you start giving these
Deekshas you start growing very rapidly in your consciousness.
Let us say
that if you are a follower of Christ you will experience Christ consciousness,
if you are a follower of Buddha it would be
Buddha consciousness, If you are a muslim it would be the essence of Islam. If
a Hindu your consciousness would appear as Rama consciousness. These
states are not something which would come and then go away. They are permanent altered states of consciousness which have always
been with you. You would become a different human being. That is
what will happen in the year 2012. So our function is to take you up to 2012.
2013 and 2014 will help stabilize things, and after 2014 March we have just to
dissolve, we will go away from the scene to lead very normal, anonymous
lives. We are out of the scene.
Thereafter oneness is not a word,
it's a state of consciousness. It lives in
peoples hearts. So I will have no successor or successors. People
are my successors and they would get close to the Divine, depending on what
their Divine is. It's completely up to them. So that is what
we mean by enlightenment, you and the Divine coming very very close to each
other. This should happen in the year 2012. And if we continue to
be on the stage, then it will destroy the whole thing. It would become a
cult, and it would not really happen. That is why in 2014 we'll have to
fade away from the scene.
For such of you who are waiting for this
awakening, 2012 is your most crucial year. That is when the energies will
shift. Like it shifted earlier in 1989 was a very small
shift. That's when the phenomenon began as you all know that is the
time when the Berlin wall collapsed and communism started to fade away and what
happened in China, Beijing *something* and many things that happened all
over the world. That was when the first energy shift happened and they
called it the conception of the New Age. In 2012 is going to be the birth
of the New Age, there is going to be a major shift of energy which all people
can make use of, *something* anybody can make use of to do whatever they want
to.
Similarly people who are concerned about the environment, concerned
about health, concerned about relationships, are concerned about the
government. All can make use of it. So in the spiritual field,
every spiritual master can make use of it for spreading whatever he wants to
spread, whatever his perceptions are. Our perception is that people
should feel very close to one other, they should feel no sense of separation,
they should feel very close to the Divine the way they want to feel
close.
So these are our perceptions and they will begin when large
numbers of people would become BGs And they would form groups and start
giving Blessings to each other the way we will be teaching you, we shall soon
make it. And then when they make it soon it will effect the world.
When they are effected they expect humanity to move into higher states of consciousness. All these problems we
face today are because of lower levels of consciousness.
Once we move to high levels of consciousness, all
problems including financial problems, health problems, environmental problems,
wars, they will naturally cease. Because people in high
consciousness do not produce these problems. So you have to wait
until 2012, and what you can do until then is practice the meditation we give
you. The real sadhana, the real work, starts in 2012.
Q2: You talk about that everything experienced fully is
bliss. For me this has meant focusing my attention on the sensations in
the body associated with the emotional charge without needing to change them,
just feeling them. When I find my mind escaping into stories, I gently
guide myself or others back into feeling the "emotional body sensations". I
also ask for Divine help in this. I have found that shifts and insights occur
almost every time and very very fast. When people go back to the story,
the emotional charge is gone. Is this what you mean by experiencing something
and can you elaborate how else experiencing may look as some people don't
understand what you mean by experiencing?
A2: What
you have said is perfect, it's very beautiful and I don't think I need to add
any more on that. This is what I'm saying people must come from their own
experiences. That's how the Trainers much function. There should not be a
video. *something* I don't want the video there. I want people to
talk from their own experiences. I want them to become teachers, not
oneness teachers, but teachers who not only speak of oneness but all other
things. People must explain from their own life experiences. Your
information is absolutely beautiful.
I guess I am asking, aside from giving the blessing, how can we
best help people (including ourselves) with their process?
Other
than the Blessing the next thing that you could do is listen to people.
Without judging them just listen to them. If you listen to them they will
be healed 70%. People want to be listened to instead of being judged and
condemned. If you actually listen to somebody's story you will sometimes
feel that you should hug them or hold their hand. That is what will come
naturally from you. If you do that they will be greatly healed. So
apart from the Blessing that is what you must learn to do to people.
Q3. Marge, a brand new Fiji graduate is asking:
"I want to know how to heal this separation from myself. I also wonder why we
had to become separate in the first place? I feel like I "have
to" give my life over to the Divine. Is that true? And why is
that so scary?"
A3: Why
it happened in the first place one does not really know. Maybe it could
be that we had to feel separated so that people could organize
*something* structure it must have been nature's plan. Anyway,
that's not so important for us. So what is important is getting back to
your divine self, that's what's most important and why it appears so
scary is that you have not really experienced it. Once you have
experienced it you will love to jump into it. It ceases to be so
scary. So lets hope that you will soon get a massive experience where you
are totally divine, that all fear is gone, and we will have to pull you out of
it afterwards.
Q4: One last thing, Bhagavan. There is a little
girl, Sydney Trutor, in our Oneness receiver community who is going in for
major surgery on Dec 1. She is just 2 years old .
She had a liver transplant at 8 months old and
now there are complications and she needs more major surgery. Can you please
bless her and her family so they have the best possible outcome?
Bhagavan: Do
you have a picture?
Questioner: I
do not Bhagavan, but I could get one.
A4: Alright,
Then for a moment we could all pray. You could pray, not seeing her sick,
but Pray with a picture that she's very very healthy and very very fine.
Hold that kind of picture, I will also pray with you, and we will help her out.
OK.
So I think we have come to the end of the session, so we will meet again after
a month.
Closing:
Sri Bhagavan, thank you so much for blessing us with your presence
and insight. Please let us know how we can best help you with your vision?
Bhagavan: Yes,
the Trainers must get ready to make other Blessing Givers. That is the first thing
you must do. The next thing in 2011 the Blessing Givers must be ready to make others
into Blessing Givers, and in 2012 form the groups and start giving the Blessing. That
is the way you are going to help me to realize the vision of 2012. And I hope next time we can have
your audio also because I cannot hear you speak.
Thank you, Bhagavan, Thank
you.
I love you (Bhagavan to us)
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Video Broadcast with Moscow, Russia November 22, 2009
http://www.vimeo.com/7764436
Video Recording of Broadcast
QUESTION: Bhagavan, many of us are so concerned
about the current economical and political situation in the world - crisis, lots
of catastrophes and other destruction. Many of us are so lost and don't know
what to expect from the future. So much fear around. And some time ago you were
saying that the real crisis even hadn't been started yet. Would you give us
some guidance, Bhagavan? What to
expect and what to do?
BHAGAVAN: Could we go
for the answer, German? So, in 1989 there was an energy shift. Now there's
going to be another shift of energy in 2012. Whenever there is an energy shift,
or an energy shift is going to happen, the old values, old thoughts, old
civilisation, will start crumbling, will start dying. Because unless there's a
death, the new can not be born. So in 2012, the new is going to take birth; new
business forms, new forms of government, new forms of trade, new forms of
livelihood. Something very new is going to start. If the new is going to start,
the old is going to die.
Now we are caught up
in this. We are experiencing that dying of all that we know. Unless that
happens, the new can not be born. This dying of the old is what we are
experiencing as suffering. Will you translate up to that point?
Now, we are the
unfortunate people who are caught up in a situation where the old is dying, but
we are also fortunate in that we are going to see the birth of a great, new
age. Please translate.
The best way to handle
this situation is, you must form small communities of friends and depend on each
other and help out each other, depend on each other for solving material
problems, depend on each other for solving emotional problems. So only through
dependance on each other and a shared relationship, you will be able to handle
this crisis. If you weaken on your relationships, either with your families or
with your friends, it's going to be very, very difficult. Therefore, strengthen
the bond with your relations, strengthen the bond with your group of friends.
Form small groups of friends, meet frequently. You could also give a blessing
on those occasions and depend on each other to fight out this crisis. That is
the only way you will be able to handle this coming problem. That's the answer
for the first question. You can translate.
Shall we move on to
the second question, German?
QUESTION: Bhagavan, what is the role of the
bond with the divine in the process. What can we do to strengthen it, the bond
with you?
BHAGAVAN: See we have
to make use of the Divine to sort out our problems. Like I was telling earlier,
we can use solar energy for meeting our energy needs. We can use wind power to
meet our energy needs. Similarly, divine energies could be harnessed to set
right our financial problems, our relationship problems, our health problems
and whatever other problems we have got to face. So we are trying to make use
of divine energies for solving our problems. In earlier times, people were
doing this. But down the years we have lost touch with the Divine and this 2012
is all about putting us back in touch with the Divine. For the Divine to
respond to you, you must have a bond with the Divine, whether you look at it as
Christ or Buddha or Allah or as some cosmic energy or universal energy. You
have to have a bond with it. If you do not have a bond with it, the Divine may
not respond. That is why the bond is important.
For the second part of
your question, where you are asking about a bond with me, it's important that
you have a good bond with your parents. If you have a good bond with your
parents, you will naturally have a very good bond with me. In the same way,
even with the Divine, you'll have a very good bond if your bond with your
parents is very strong. That's why the bond is very important, then you can
harness divine energies for sorting out your problems. That's the answer for
the second question. You may translate.
Shall we move on to
the third question, German?
QUESTION: Bhagavan we've been mastering the art
of experiencing the suffering to the extent when it is converted to joy, but in
our daily lives it happens so rarely. Why is it? Due to the lack of
concentration and energy or a weak bond with the Divine? What should we do to
master this art?
BHAGAVAN: Normally, to
master any of these arts you have to practice continously without a break for
21 days. If you do that for 21 days without a break, it becomes very natural to
you. That is the way you start living. And how you must test it out is, suppose
in the morning you're brushing your teeth, you must be fully aware of the brush
moving against your teeth and the gums. It should not be a mechanical form of
brushing, which you normally do. You must be intensely aware of the brush
brushing your teeth and gums. Every moment you should experience it.
Suppose you're having
a bath, it should not be done mechanically. You must feel the water flowing on
the body, the sensations and what all is happening. Similarly, if you are
eating, you should be completely experiencing the eating, how the food is going
through your mouth, how you're biting it. You must only be experiencing that.
This also if you practice along side for 21 days, it will become very, very
natural Most of our things are done habitually. We must break the habit. Like
reading the morning newspaper or going for a morning walk, whatever you do in
the morning or any time of the day, most of them has become a habit. We must
break the habit and we must be intensely aware of what is going on and
experience it.
If this also is done
for 21 days, the normal things of life, not necessarily experiencing suffering,
but the normal things of life, you will find there's a complete shift in
awareness. You'll start living, not existing. Just try it out for 21 days, it
will become very natural to you. You can translate now. If you have any
difficulty, you can ask me in the middle, I will help you out.
Shall we move on to
the next question, German?
QUESTION: How can we learn to do it consciously
for 21 days?
BHAGAVAN: For example,
take this simple thing of brushing the teeth. As you start brushing you would
find that your thoughts have moved out somewhere, that you're not focused on
the brushing, it is thinking about what happened yesterday or what's going to
happen tomorrow. So then what will happen is you'll again come back to the act
of brushing, again you'll miss out, again you have to check it out. So this
way, every now and then the mind will move out. It will not stay in awareness.
You must discover that you're losing awareness. If you discover you're losing
awareness, you'll automatically come back to awareness.
Initially it will be a
struggle. From first day to second day it will improve, second day to third day
it will improve. If you can maintain this without a break, of course there
should be no break for 21 days, you'll discover very naturally you'll be able
to maintain awareness. If you can maintain awareness about brushing your teeth,
then you can maintain awareness about having a bath or washing your face. Then
you'll be able to maintain awareness about your eating. And slowly you'll find
it becomes an awareness of what's going on inside your mind. All that is
automatic. You can start with any simple thing you want. I mentioned brushing
your teeth, it can be walking, it can be waiting, it can be eating. It can be
anything which has become a habit to you. If you break the habit, you'll move
into awareness. Initially it will be a little difficult, but thereafter it will
become almost like child's play. It's difficult only in the beginning, but you
must continue to be at it. That's the answer.
You could start trying
it from tomorrow itself. I will help you out.
So German, shall we
move on to the next question?
QUESTION: Bhagavan, when the deeksha phenomenon
just began to spread many of us used to have very strong and vivid experiences
while giving or receiving deeksha, is it going to be like that again? Or perhaps it has no importance for our
process?
BHAGAVAN: Right now,
it has no importance for our process. Because we are now going to focus on
awareness. But it will come back in a very big way in 2012. In 2012 it will be
an explosion. It will come back powerfully many times over in 2012. Right now
we are shutting it down because we are focusing more on awareness. In 2012 it
will be all over. It'll come back in a very big way. That's the answer for that
question.
Shall we move to the
next question, German?
QUESTION: Bhagavan, in the processes our focus
was put to the external success very much, as if it was a must for the internal
growth to happen, is it so?
BHAGAVAN: The inner
world affects the external world. The external world also affects the inner
world. That was deliberately done to clear out certain internal blocks. Unless
we clear those internal blocks, we can not progress spiritually. So that was
one reason why we were focusing on external success. The other thing also was
to sort out some of your problems, to help you with some of your problems, it
was done. The other thing was to clear out internal blocks. But that is not
really necessary. It was only done for a certain purpose. That's the answer.
OK German, shall we
now go for a meditation?
You could start
initially with breath awareness and then move on to your body sensations and to
you inner thoughts. Try to go inside yourself and try to see what's really
happening. Let us practice inner integrity. There's always a real story behind
the created story. We must try to get there. So try your best this time. Next
time we'll be able to succeed in a big way. This time we can just try it out.
Once you have translated, we can start.
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